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woody71
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   Old Thread  #24 20 Jun 2026 at 8.16pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #23
I have seen and used the penn affinity and thought they were a really good reel for the money and the vantage and tidal xt's also look very good and worth a look

The okuma obsidian does look good and is getting a lot of good reviews although i dont like the idea of an aluminium reel shaft but to counter that there are a lot of them in use so must be doing ok
slipd
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slipd
   Old Thread  #23 20 Jun 2026 at 6.45pm  0  Login    Register
Thanks guys! A lot to go through. I'm a bit gutted I missed the Daiwa's at around £144 the other day. I think that's nearly as cheap as they were on release by all accounts.

I'll have a look at some of the suggestions in town at next weekend.
woody71
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   Old Thread  #22 20 Jun 2026 at 10.56am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #21
The za's are a very underrated reel and very reliable. I still have a set that i kept in france for years i can remember initially getting 2 for spod and marker use but found them far nicer and smoother to use than the tournys and infinity's id been using as main reels so got a full set of the za's and moved infinitys on

My friend has lived in france for over 20 years doing a lot of public lake fishing with his set of za's and never had a problem with any of them.

The older reels were imo better built my main reels here are xt techs which have also been faultless and which i would never get shut of.

I also have a set of ci4 5500 xtb's for small water use although they feel smooth i dont think they are built as well as the za's
JasonM
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JasonM
   Old Thread  #21 20 Jun 2026 at 8.34am  0  Login    Register
I’ve still a set of Daiwa Emblem Z 5000As on my distance setup and Shimano ultegra xtbs I bought around 2006 (medium distance) there is nothing worthy of replacing them today imho.
The older reels were much better built.
Tim-bowne
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   Old Thread  #20 19 Jun 2026 at 6.33pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #17
Fair point but you’re comparing a £60 reel to a £150 one.

I’ve heard of lots of faults with cheaper Daiwas, i.e. Windcast / Crosscast / Black Widow & plenty with earlier Shimano Ultegra XTC/XTEs.

bmthman
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bmthman
   Old Thread  #19 19 Jun 2026 at 8.32am  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #18
Another vote for used Tournament 5000T's you can upgrade them as much as you want. They will last forever.
essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #18 19 Jun 2026 at 7.33am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
My advice would be to do exactly what I did, find yourself some good secondhand Daiwa Tournament 5000T. They should last for many many years and if needed, spares are going to be available long-term. Unlike any of the Shimano offerings.
OatcakeFred
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OatcakeFred
   Old Thread  #17 18 Jun 2026 at 11.21pm  0  Login    Register
Whilst I haven't heard about any specific issues with the Okuma Obsidians, there's always that nagging doubt at the back of my mind about the well publicised issue with their INC 6000 reels. My initial 3 reels which I use on my 10ft set up were sent back and replaced. And now one of the 3 new ones has the same issue.

I'm also led to believe that getting spares for them is a bit of a mare, but this may be an old problem which is now sorted?
MiniWelsh
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MiniWelsh
   Old Thread  #16 18 Jun 2026 at 11.01pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #7
I have the original Penns and they are still running great. Had the Daiwa, lasted less than a season before I sold them and got the Shimano XTE which I think is a much bettwr reel. If I was buying now I would go for the Okuma Obsidians, having had a play with them they feel top draw at a ridiculous price point
Carew
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Carew
   Old Thread  #15 18 Jun 2026 at 10.13pm  1  Login    Register
Another vote for Penn Affinity
Euroboybobbin
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Euroboybobbin
   Old Thread  #14 18 Jun 2026 at 9.59pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
2nd vote for the Penn’s Vantage or Tidal XT’s
Cypry1994
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   Old Thread  #13 18 Jun 2026 at 9.34pm  0  Login    Register
Penn affinity reels are definitely worth a look. I have had a few different brands of reels and the Penn's have been the best by far! silky smooth and brilliant line lay.
JasonM
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JasonM
   Old Thread  #12 18 Jun 2026 at 9.25pm  0  Login    Register
Penn, Daiwa or Shimano.

Whilst the okuma obsidians are well liked my only question is their long term durability and that will take some time yet to understand.
secret-agent
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secret-agent
   Old Thread  #11 18 Jun 2026 at 8.50pm  0  Login    Register
Okuma Obsidian
0nslow
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0nslow
   Old Thread  #10 18 Jun 2026 at 8.30pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
Shimano Ultegra 5500 ci4's are only £190 each. I've been pretty impressed with them and a huge step up from the Penns I was using (which were a third of the price)
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