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Best Memory foam bedchair
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allroundangler

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#22 20 Feb 2026 at 8.19pm

In reply to Post #21
I think a SIM with a lower R rating would be good for general use but for regular cold weather trips something around 5 would be better - but agree it’s an expensive option or luxury to have both!! In terms of breathability neither memory foam nor SIMs are that breathable - makes sense for SIMs as they are designed to insulate as well as to provide a level of comfort, usually when used directly on the ground. As you say though if the bedchair mattress is made of memory foam plus other materials then it may feel cooler although generally anything fleece covered feels warm and potentially sweaty in warmer weather - guess it varies alot on the individual

vossy1

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#21 20 Feb 2026 at 7.30pm

In reply to Post #10
I would think a SIM would be more comfortable in warm weather than fleece covered memory foam, especially one with a low R rating?

You wouldn't sleep directly on the memory foam or it's cover on a Carp bed though..would you...well...it'd be ruddy hard to clean it if so, it's no a good idea if you do....lol
So are we saying you'd need a sim for summer and a sim for winter with varying R rating to suite...not a very cheap option.

I spend far more time on my bedchair than anyone, and I'll tell you sims don't breath, irrespective of R rating and even with varying tog duvets on top of them you still end up sweating on the contact area between you and the bed.

As a comparison the new Flatliner I've just spent 6 days on (5cm memory foam) no sweat and minor heat build up on contact point between body and bed compared to ELS & Sim.

wandle1

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#20 20 Feb 2026 at 5.46pm

In reply to Post #19
Yes,if you go on Kent Survival, Andy his name is does a trip where he is actually in the river doing a wild camp ,very good watch ..with exactly what you say

I try ,like a lot of others to look at all angles

Best I've come up with is a dpm army tarp / emergency stretcher..Avid RT light bedchair ,and a snugpak sleeping bag ,mosquito bag ,including compact water filter ..

So it was rucksack ,rod holdall ,bedchair ,tarp ,and sleeping bag including suitable roll up mat ,all proper easy for someone like me to walk across the fields over 2 miles to fish

My other minimal set ,was Carper speedflex bivvy ,quick to deploy ,rod holdall ,rucksack ,with bait food ,and waterfilter ,plus a air sucked down fortis sleeping bag and a duralight bedchair ..
Plus , stripped out barrow ,that system was great ,cept the bivvy a bit low ,but hey nothing is perfect ...

bmthman

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#19 20 Feb 2026 at 5.27pm

Cot bed with tent and inner attached still under 5kg that is an awesome idea and bit of kit. Shame it does not have mud feet.

wandle1

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#18 20 Feb 2026 at 5.18pm

In reply to Post #17

.....yeah I just got there folding water bottles ,very clever ..

If they went meths ,integrated they could go ever lighter..

You can still be comfy ,whilst being fairly minimal ... but a barrow most likely will always be involved I bet ,...

allroundangler

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#17 20 Feb 2026 at 5.11pm

In reply to Post #16
It’s one to suggest to the guys at Jag Prolite!!

wandle1

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#16 20 Feb 2026 at 4.33pm

In reply to Post #15
You can see it,some cannot !

Helinox with adjustable legs ,rolls up on yer barrow ,and a lovely waterproof coated down,crash zipped sleeping bag ..would be great ..

Really we need someone from the ultralight ,and strong camping ,n bushcraft world to shake up the stagnant industry..

It'll happen though ,but not yet ,cos most innovation is from people who don't think or do research, it's all the same Avid ,Nash ,whychwood, etc all no thought process,just go to China n book in several thousand ,of the latest 'must have ' ...

allroundangler

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#15 20 Feb 2026 at 4.25pm

In reply to Post #14
Yeah i was looking at the Helinox insulated cots - all it would take would be to integrate a SIM into the base of a bedchair (with the base fully fused to the frame, like some bedchairs are) I always thought Fortis could do a slightly warmer or maybe thicker additional outer layer on their Techlite then hey presto it’s decent combination down to minus 5 or so or even better still a down bag (lighter) Aqua had a go at this (Atom bed) but it wasn’t
a complete product.

Literally, excepting the memory foam, slightly improved leg mechanisms and the fusing to the frame bedchair design has barely changed since the 90’s with various marketing BS - completely flat frame etc (and then not a completely flat mattress which ruins the concept!) The original bedchairs (original KM fox) did have a flat frame!!!

wandle1

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#14 20 Feb 2026 at 4.06pm

In reply to Post #10
Absolutely spot on ,you never know one tigress, or Helinox might make an adjustable bedchair ,super light ,super compact ,....just like small Helinox chairs ..cots,the American community calls those.image a 3kilo bedchair!

Tbh ,I been saying this for yrs ,a lot of angling products are complete regurgitation, around n round we go .....

There is next to zero innovation ,inspiration..who really wants to lug about a huge bedchair, I know I don't..

For a good example most carp reels seem to be black ,er,black and a bit more blak,no individuality at all,remember carp cannot see what set up we have, n all

allroundangler

Posts: 82

#13 20 Feb 2026 at 1.56pm

In reply to Post #4
Interesting, the more i hear the more I’m going off memory foam -
If it’s not super comfortable and adds alot more weight I’m not sure of the benefit?!

allroundangler

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#12 20 Feb 2026 at 1.53pm

In reply to Post #7
Thanks, which SIM are you using? The Tactical X has the built in pillow, can’t get on with these

allroundangler

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#11 20 Feb 2026 at 1.52pm

In reply to Post #8
Would make sense and have heard the same - some
mitigate this by using a sleeping bag, rather than sleep system, so laying on the bag rather than the fleece or sleeping between the bag layers. Nash do a cover for their memory foam for exactly this reason

allroundangler

Posts: 82

#10 20 Feb 2026 at 1.48pm

In reply to Post #9
I would think a SIM would be more comfortable in warm weather than fleece covered memory foam, especially one with a low R rating? The fishing industry seem to lag massively behind the outdoor industry in both beds and bags - all the info and materials are out there to make the perfect fishing bed and bag yet fishing manufacturers just seem incapable of not copying each other, which is why I guess that non fishing products are so widely used. I have very little fishing clothing (excepting Fortis) but loads of proper outdoor/mountaineering kit, simply because it outperforms in pretty much all areas.

With some thought it would be possible I think to make a fishing style bedchair and proper winter bag (not this 5 season nonsense) weighing less than 10kg, but it would need a down bag - try finding one from a fishing manufacturer!

vossy1

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#9 20 Feb 2026 at 1.14pm

In reply to Post #8
Can't be any worse than when using a sim, totally unbeatable.
A decent bags wicking should help but in summer it'll be a thin bag anyway so that won't help either.

wandle1

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#8 20 Feb 2026 at 11.40am

I have heard from those who.know more than me those memory foam bedchairs ,cause a body to hella sweat in the warmer months..

In fact ol linky poo himself ,was always on about it just saying !


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