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There's no smoke and mirrors. It's not my place to divulge about other companies baits secrets. Past or present. It was a mistake to post here in the first place. You carry on Tyto.
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In reply to Post #24 " Thanks for that reply Mark it is helpful "
Honestly no disrespect meant to Mark but the question is still not answered is it ? I understand the concept of confidentiality with regards commercial products but we're talking about a now discontinued product from decades ago. So before you start adding a plethora of random liquids to your warmed up active CSL in the hope of a vigorous reaction, maybe start with a simple glucose or fructose syrup. I've just mopped up my kitchen worktop after doing just that. No doubt, there will be people on here that can confirm or deny my assumption. I'm happy to be educated 😁. Smoke and mirrors, it's tiresome.
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In reply to Post #22 Thanks for that reply Mark it is helpful.
Last winter I rolled a bait that was almost the same as one I used in the 90's. Just four powdered ingredients, including the egg and just evaporated milk, a little csl for the liquid and 1ml of flavour. I caught very consistently using it and know that I really shouldn't start complicating things.
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Just read silverfish' s original post again. He's actually got one and a half bottles of the stuff haha. No need for any more speculation or asking people to bare their souls. Just get the darn stuff analysed and let's have done with it. Personally, and yes once again this is just pure speculation, I would suspect that it's nothing more than inverted sugar syrup or similar. Dab some on the tongue or test it with Benedict' s reagent. If none of those methods indicate sugar then get it analyzed. Otherwise you're all going round in circles forever and whispering " Ah, but what was the Grange "on your deathbeds 😂
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In reply to Post #19 To be honest, I think Frothey was just jesting with the maggot comment. Back on track for the original poster. If you want some active CSL, get yourself a bottle of live CSL, I used to use AA Baits but I ferment my own now You can put this stuff into overdrive with an increase in temperature and an instant food source such as fructose, glucose or even just table sugar. If your shop bought stuff is a little too viscous for a bait soak, you can dilute it down to help penetration. The best way though is to put the liquid and boilies into into a 5 gallon pressure barrel and inject carbon dioxide into it 😁 .Pressure treated boilies 😁
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I would have thought an aquaculture feed pellet may be more advanced than boiled bait? Not as versatile in application though.
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In reply to Post #18 I was using maggots to catch carp back in the 70's, so fully appreciate how much carp love them, but they're problematic to use in many situations in mixed fisheries. They're also banned where I'm fishing next season. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that I don't consider them the peak of modern carp baits and, like most people making their own bait I was hoping for a little gem. Perhaps Mark has provided that on his other thread?
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In reply to Post #17 He did give you the answer... maggots ! Yes, maggots which evolved in the Triassic Period are the peak of modern carp baits 😂 When anyone on here makes a non committal, cryptic statement which alludes to having knowledge regarding the pinnacle of carp baits, it's best to be sceptical.
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In reply to Post #12 I was hoping that you'd get an answer to. I actually wonder whether taking a step backwards is the answer and using paste baits?
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In reply to Post #15 Soooooo last year
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In reply to Post #14 Thought it was chopped worms?
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In reply to Post #12 Maggots
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In reply to Post #12 Goo..... surely?
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In reply to Post #9 Can you tell me what peak modern baits are?
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