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midlandman
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midlandman
   Old Thread  #45 6 Jan 2026 at 9.40pm  0  Login    Register
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The liquids were incredible. The best that I have ever used 🫡
Stokebloke
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   Old Thread  #44 6 Jan 2026 at 10.28am  0  Login    Register
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You are correct it did change. I was buying the base mix and rolling it myself. It stained everything it came in contact with a deep red colour. Then for no reason that stopped happening and the results fell through the floor. Shame as it was a good bait. For those in the know the liquid was a major Tench attractor.
Winkler
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   Old Thread  #43 6 Jan 2026 at 8.57am  0  Login    Register
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Is there no way you can get access to a freezer? This would be the better option IMO if you can find a way to do it.
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #42 5 Jan 2026 at 11.19am  0  Login    Register
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So you think the Halibut Brood Powder was the key?

Anyone still on it? Use it occasionally for barbel bashing . . .always have a pot of liquid source as a glug for barbel specifically . . .
DaveSG
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DaveSG
   Old Thread  #41 5 Jan 2026 at 10.34am  0  Login    Register
'The source'

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AnglingDays&Way
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AnglingDays&Way
   Old Thread  #40 5 Jan 2026 at 8.13am  0  Login    Register
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20% LT94 Fishmeal
10% CPSP (pre-digested fishmeal)
10% Nectarblend
10% Red Factor
10% HP Crumb (Haiths)
5% Robin Red
5% Spanish RRR
10% Lamlac
10% Maize Flour
10% Semo

Liquids:
Minamino
Secret Agent
Compound TF
Shellfish Sense Appeal
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junglist
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junglist
   Old Thread  #39 4 Jan 2026 at 7.36pm  0  Login    Register
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I think it was some kind of halibut paste
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #38 4 Jan 2026 at 5.05pm  0  Login    Register
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Any idea what the missing ingredient(s) could have been? Whatever they were they were obvs v important to the fish - would love to know !!!
junglist
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junglist
   Old Thread  #37 4 Jan 2026 at 4.51pm  0  Login    Register
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The base mix changed as something became unavailable

Marcus Watts has written a chapter in the BCSG bait book about developing the bait
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #36 4 Jan 2026 at 3.44pm  0  Login    Register
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Now that is weird as that would have been EXACTLY around the same time (mid 2000s) that it 'blew' on our lake. As you say, results stopped pretty much instantly . . .wonder if they changed some kind of ingredient / value engineered as sales went up etc
Leeroyjenkins
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Leeroyjenkins
   Old Thread  #35 3 Jan 2026 at 7.20pm  0  Login    Register
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I swear there was a time in the mid 2000's that the Source suddenly became crap over night. It was the going bait on a lot of places and it just suddenly stopped doing fish. I remember it happening to me and others around me. Just because I remember it doesnt mean it happened though

The shelf life version was just as good as frozen if I recall. I think a lot of people moved from shelf life Trigga, to The Source, for some reason, I can't remember
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #34 2 Jan 2026 at 12.55pm  1  Login    Register
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Baits can 'blow' . . .or at the very least become a lot less effective. V hard mega weedy estate lake and Dynamite Baits the Source had just been released - up to this point a syndicate of 20 anglers were all using different baits and keeping results under wraps; until the local animal feed suppliers (that we all bought halibut pellets from) started knocking out frozen Source boilies at £3 per kg. Everyone got on it and started applying in quantity . . results across the whole lake improved significantly and that season everyone caught more than in any previous season . . . . they were literally ripping up weedbeds to eat it . . . . until the spring of the following season when pretty much results tailed off overnight (you couldn't buy a bite on the Source) and everyone went back to secret squirrel tactics.

At the time we blamed it on a selection of new nod members who in their infinite wisdom decided to pile in the shelf-life Source variant as they'd 'heard' it was the going bait. However I'm not sure myself - the fish maybe simply realised the bait / label spelt danger and returned to the plethora of naturals available . . . . and occasionally my B5 hookbait!
carpbandit84
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carpbandit84
   Old Thread  #32 12 Dec 2025 at 5.18pm  0  Login    Register
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Active bait solutions Hydra K or K2 or essential baits B5. You will catch anywhere with those baits. I like to fish with a mix of them all with different sizes. The B5 you can get for 5.95 a kilo on black Friday deal. I always get like 40kilo to last the yr lol.
You can also buy overs from them at about 6 a kilo with post
Silverback
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Silverback
   Old Thread  #31 11 Dec 2025 at 3.35pm  1  Login    Register
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Mainline Cell, Sticky Krill?
InTheMargin
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   Old Thread  #30 11 Dec 2025 at 12.56pm  1  Login    Register
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I don't think baits blow. I think generally, anglers just get bored of them. When a bait company brings out a new bait, then their older baits fall down the pecking order. These baits are still the same quality and will still catch fish. These bait companies do a really good job in advertising new baits with lots of catch reports etc. they do a great job in convincing people they need to be on the "going bait" through fomo.

There are that many baits about nowadays. If you walked a lake and asked every angler what they where using, it would be unlikely you would find any more than 2 using the same.


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