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Elltell85
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Elltell85
   Old Thread  #5 4 Nov 2025 at 4.19pm  1  Login    Register
Butiric N are found in butter and creams which both should be found in scopex or a good one at least
bristol
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bristol
   Old Thread  #4 4 Nov 2025 at 11.40am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #3
The Catchit Labs Scopex is excellent and even 'cooks' the eggs if not worked with quickly - guessing this is the nbtyric acid content
Smurf
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Smurf
   Old Thread  #3 4 Nov 2025 at 7.52am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
As already mentioned here, Scopex already contains a lot of Butyric acid. The exact recipe is published by Jason Rider in one of his books.

He points out that 5ml of Scopex already has 13.5 drops so take that into account if you try adding more.
Tyto
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   Old Thread  #2 3 Nov 2025 at 10.28pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
"Does anyone know the right levels for Scopex and N Butyric ? "
I'd hazard a guess that most Scopex flavours already contain N Butyric at optimum levels. Over recent years, I've used Catchit Labs, AA Baits and UK Bait Company all with good results.
By adding extra N Butyric you could well overdo things. If someone has spent the time and discovered a winning formula by adding extra, then sadly they are unlikely to freely divulge that information on here !
kizzi
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   Old Thread  #1 3 Nov 2025 at 10.07pm  0  Login    Register
Listening to the Gardner podcast October 2024 episode with Steve Renyard he talks about his bait discussions with Rod H. Steve says something like:

“Used to use [Rod’s] Scopex Number 1 but you put N Butyric Acid with it … totally changes the dynamics of that bait and they pick that up in the winter like you wouldn’t believe”

Does anyone know the right levels for Scopex and N Butyric? I assume John Baker is the best source today for Scopex?

Later on Steve says that he asked Rod “What is the secret in the winter?” And was told
“ … you can use an acidic fruit and it works, like Ethyl Alcohol whatever but it’s like a car battery you put normal water in and it won’t charge because you don’t get that electric field going through it.- you put an essential oil with an acidic fruit, mix it really quickly, mix it, roll it, and don’t over oil it.”
Steve then says, “Bugger me! That was a secret for the winter. I used to use orange oil with clove, everywhere I took that … I caught.”

I know that Rod is not talking literally, but can anyone shed details on what this looks like for a (very) amateur bait maker?
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