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frothey
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frothey
   Old Thread  #84 8 Dec 2025 at 1.06pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #83
My missus has a Toyota Proace (same as the pug/vauxhall) medium wheelbase EV that we’ve converted to a camper. No belts, ad blue, chains etc and 180 miles or so to a charge, which is more than enough for us. Costs about £4.80 in charging to get those 180 miles. 10yr warranty on car and battery. And you can pick up 2nd hand EV’s up cheap as chips - it cost us less to buy the van and convert it than to buy a diseasel std unconverted van.

I’m sure someone’s going to tell me the range is rubbish, batteries don’t last, etc but we’d never go back to ICE……
vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #83 7 Dec 2025 at 3.55pm  0  Login    Register
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I just think if you were buying a van today why would you get one with this known issue if you couldn't get proof that it had had the recall work completed.

You probably already know this but they can't just replace the chain , the head cover has to be replaced too and apparently you can tell by the lumps on it if it has the newer chain fitted, and also by the stamp number on the head. I get what you're saying but if you buy any newer model van you're already in the unknown, only after the first 18 months ish will issues tend to show on higher mileage fleet vans. I still wouldn't touch the over worked 1ltr ish petrol engines but unfortunately newer vans all have eco rubbish. They seem to be ironing the issues out with the 1.5 blue hdi but in another thread somewhere a fleet manager commented on several other issues, and then there's the adblue system...mine stopped working annually 3 times!
Horses for courses
AndyCarper82
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AndyCarper82
   Old Thread  #82 7 Dec 2025 at 2.47pm  0  Login    Register
The chain stretching issue has been known about for some time now on the 1.5 bluhdi engine, it's been engineered out on later 23 onwards engines by using a thicker gauge chain.

I just think if you were buying a van today why would you get one with this known issue if you couldn't get proof that it had had the recall work completed. It's such a minefield getting a replacement van. If you have one already, deffo get the work done on the recall.

Apparently the 2.0 bluhdi isn't affected as it has a thicker gauge chain already installed from new.



vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #81 7 Dec 2025 at 12.34pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #80
The timing belt in my emgine is a dry belt, but that's not the recall problem I'm talking about, it's the camshaft chain, see part 7 in the diagram below. There have been kits available for a while with upgraded chain size and new top cam cover etc, but this is the 1st I've heard of the recall

Camshaft Diagram
Tinhead
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Tinhead
   Old Thread  #80 6 Dec 2025 at 10.25pm  0  Login    Register
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I'll copy and paste my reply to the post you mention.............


Sounds like your car has a welt belt.

My son's Vauxhall Grandlander of a similar age has one and it cost him approx £1500 to change and clean the engine because it had deteriorated and was clogging up the oil causing it to go into limp mode
vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #79 6 Dec 2025 at 6.43pm  0  Login    Register
So, I'm just following this up and will copy and paste this where I've commented on other threads.

Our 2019 Peugeot Rifter 1.5 Blue Hdi has just been recalled by Peugeot as a 'Urgent Safety Recall'. They're working their way through vins and contacting owners in some sort of sequence. There is also a compensation scheme in place for those who've already had issues.

To quote

May be affected by premature wearing of the camshaft drive chain, leading to abnormal noise, or a breakage of the chain in the worst case. To address this issue we will update the software to improve oil pressure and reduce wear. In addition the noise of your engine will be checked with a special application. If we see a problem with the chain we will replace it. If no problem is found we will replace the oil with to one with higher viscosity and special anti wear additives.

My car's already been serviced with the right oil but it will be going to Peugeot for a check, and to check it's still recommending the same oil. As this engine is used in other makes I assume they're on recall too, worth checking your engine.

Edit, looks like my engine is Engine (D) (DV5RC (YHZ))
cyprymike
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cyprymike
   Old Thread  #78 5 Sept 2025 at 8.45am  0  Login    Register
I’ve just bought a Citroen berlingo which is fine for me size wise . I have no intention of sleeping in it and don’t take silly amounts of gear. It already has a ply base covered in vinyl. I’m going to install a coat/clothes rack and potentially a cargo net in the roof space. May put some draws in one corner for spare bits and bobs. Barrow should fit in loaded minis the rods and that’ll probably be me done.
harveyboy
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   Old Thread  #77 4 Sept 2025 at 9.14pm  1  Login    Register
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Ended up with a vivaro, cracking van so far I couldn't be happier.All boarded out, lino down on the floor,stretchy felt going over the boards after I have insulated.Bedchair fits an inch inside the wheel arch so no need to be on a slant,win win. Magnets to hold torches etc. couple of boxes to make with spare lino and stretchy felt ....if all goes well Sunday I should be almost ✅ done, probably won't look amazing but should be above decent. Just need to think about the internal roof.
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #76 4 Sept 2025 at 4.47pm  0  Login    Register
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Tadpole2
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   Old Thread  #75 4 Sept 2025 at 3.45pm  1  Login    Register
I used to work for Jaguar Landrover back in the day and a fellow asked me if it is interesting....?? I replied ''yes, i get to make a new Discovery every day'' ......



Regards Tad.
harveyboy
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   Old Thread  #74 16 Aug 2025 at 9.29pm  1  Login    Register
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Thanks dan some helpful information there.
Northern-Dan
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Northern-Dan
   Old Thread  #73 16 Aug 2025 at 8.37pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #65
I’ve had a few different fishing/work van setups now as well as done a couple of campers too, off top of my head for an ideal fishing van I’d say

Some form of wipe/wash down floor covering is handy-I’ve used that rubber coin stuff in my caddy

If carpeting I’d personally carpet only the ply removable panels (go for a dark colour) wouldn’t bother with the metalwork, again I’ve had both (Ive actually seen a few vans with the floor carpeted!) and when loading wet smelly muddy fishing gear in the carpets not gonna stay mint for long!

Insulation wise I’ve always used soundproofing first-dodo mat deadn is something I’ve recently used followed by thermolining type insulation and then the dodo fleece roll on top of that and in the voids-don’t use the rockwool type insulation!

You won’t cut out condensation completely, and a roof vent mentioned above is really good advice if your planning on kipping in it regularly
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #72 14 Aug 2025 at 9.32am  0  Login    Register
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That's got to be good advice - on any car for that matter let alone vans. I'd add regular 5-7k oil changes especially on high mileage diesels etc

My only regret car wise was selling our high mileage '06 plate VW Touran a few years back which stripped back and seats removed would have made an ideal carp wagon. 2.0 TDI / DSG box it was quick enough and simply would not die! The missus abused it (rarely got serviced / wheels curbed / dinks all over) it as did the kids (banana plants growing out of door pockets / headless barbies with chewing gum under the front seats) but it kept going without much of a grumble.

The mechanic that bought it for his own wife (I was dreading his inspection - he took at least an hour tugging on everything and pulling bits out of the engine) confirmed he was more than happy and that that particular engine / model / year (no DPF etc) was the 'one to have'. He paid me what I wanted in cash and drove off happy . . .
karmh
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karmh
   Old Thread  #71 13 Aug 2025 at 9.42pm  1  Login    Register
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The insurance no claims you've mentioned isn't entirely true, it depends which insurer. Mine accepted my car insurance from.previous years for a commercial policy.
g4fne
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g4fne
   Old Thread  #70 13 Aug 2025 at 7.42pm  1  Login    Register
What you have to remember with the hysteria over wet belts, DPFs and anything else car or van related, is that a lot go wrong because they are not maintained correctly or serviced often enough.

My advice is ignore all the advice as its just too confusing and too contradictory.

Find the size of van you like, and search for one with as low mileage as possible .... BUT more importantly also must have a FULL SERVICE HISTORY (with receipts of work), make sure you see receipts of any belts, waterpumps etc that were due for change have been and you will reduce greatly the issues many have.

If you want avoid VAT or commercial van insurance (not being able to transfer no claims) then take a look at a Berlingo Multispace or Peugeut equivalent as some models have completely removeable seats which affectively gives you a van. I did it a few years back and worked great. If you need something bigger then look for a seated version of that vehicle (check seats are removable).

Once bought, i would change any cam belts, waterpumps, auxilery belts etc (using genuine parts) and have a full service done (including ALL filters) with proper grade oil, correct grade coolant etc .... Expect a probable circa £1k extra outlay after purchase to get these done.
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