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Fivenil
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Fivenil
   Old Thread  #37 3 May 2025 at 9.03am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #36
I currently use 7 inches as no lengths are stated by the club. Was on a YouTube video but can't remember the anglers name. Worked fine for me in France last year.
carpe_diem
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carpe_diem
   Old Thread  #36 3 May 2025 at 2.19am  0  Login    Register
Come on guys… unless I’ve missed it somewhere … use tubing below the chod rig, thread as much as stated in the rules then put choddy on top of it
yonny
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yonny
   Old Thread  #35 29 Apr 2025 at 9.26am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #34
What I do find a little odd though, you can still use a stiff hinge, even with a short boom, but cant use a Chod ?

It is odd mate. I fish my chods on a tiny boom to help with movement anyway but what's the difference?
jimimak
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jimimak
   Old Thread  #34 29 Apr 2025 at 9.18am  1  Login    Register
Nash do some tungsten beads for tubing - they seem just about perfect for holding a Heli on the Korda standard dark matter tubing, unless you're really giving it the beans, in which case some PVA tape will temporarily hold the top bead for the cast.

LINKY POO™ https://www.total-fishing-tackle.com/nash-tungsten-tubing-bead?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADrAetrWlq3neyeOx_hWx69fPknJS&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8cHABhC-ARIsAJnY12z4EdNS9aef5pXJB5m5TTSWO7EMPH0-WES5JS7izTLXNba5kG6oKmAaAkdjEALw_wcB

Chods are banned on my syndicate, and heli's have only relatively recently been allowed so long as you use Heli-safe's and these Nash beads on the mandatory tubing. Have to admit its a bit of a compromise IMHO, and a bit of a pain threading tubing - but I manage to thread about 1.5m of tubing.

There's a few tricks to making it easy(er) the thread longer lengths of tubing, but occasionally it just wont go. Cleaning and stretching your line and straightening it first off, with a clean angled cut is a must. Fresh/new tubing only - more often than not, once its been used I always have problems threading anything longer than 50cm. Save the used stuff for shorter lengths of tubing. Straighten the tubing as well, dont stretch it too much or it'll narrow the bore. Let it hang down and thread it downwards, a light weight on the end of the tubing, just enough to straighten it, but not stretch it helps too. Sometimes when it does get stuck, you can try the pinch and stretch method, pinch the tubing where you think the end is (you can usually feel the difference between where its not made it, to where there is line inside, lightly hold the other end and stretch the tubing a little, then grip the other end tightly and release the other end - should push it through further and the tube strinks back, and repeat until it makes it all the way through. Dont stretch the tungsten stuff too much as its more brittle than the non tungsten stuff and can snap if you stretch too far, but you should get a cm or two each iteration.

Ive always preferred Heli to lead clip so works for me - cant see why the same wouldnt work for a Chod.

Ive never really pressed for why Chods are banned - this is the second syndicate where they are, and I assume its because they're usually fished naked, but with the above setup it works and AFAIK as safe as any other rig. What I do find a little odd though, you can still use a stiff hinge, even with a short boom, but cant use a Chod ?

Still - never been one to break the rules - especially when its such a special venue, and there's plenty of other options that work equally well.
55s
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55s
   Old Thread  #33 28 Apr 2025 at 11.32pm  0  Login    Register
Whatever we think of the lake rules (and there are some corkers) you have to weigh up the crime vs the time. Some waters I have fished I dread any bailiff visits.

I would look for a creative way especially with chods - why anyone wants a top bead is a bit beyond me, even the proper ones can fail so doing one on tubing and being safe is a big ask.
I’d use the nano tubing and pva tape if you want a stop - if short chucks I wouldn’t bother, the rig on a big eyed swivel will fly back up to being naked but on the take slide back onto the tubing to protect the flank of the fish. The top stop (cheap float type stop that slides) can be up the line with a free running bead.

I get the frustration at rules but waters (especially clubs) have to set them at the lowest intelligence. They don’t want lead core or leaders (as set badly they are a death trap) they think line under tension will damage and lift scales so protect the stocks best they can. It’s a shame but no different different to many walks of life in this mamby Pamby society.
essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #32 18 Apr 2025 at 7.32am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #30
Because I was told when I was there that you had to use a lead clip.
framey
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framey
   Old Thread  #31 16 Apr 2025 at 9.10pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Sometimes just need to think outside the box
Don’t use tungsten tubing
You could use something like esp silicone tubing as they do it in various sizes

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwj8g6qwq92MAxWnl1AGHa1fAgYYABAjGgJkZw&co=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqv2_BhC0ARIsAFb5Ac_bzVQ1Bdy4qdANz5AqgcJuDrVs7vBuSLDTHBgKY_OnnGY0NSF6DPIaAv4HEALw_wcB&cce=1&sig=AOD64_3NPCmygOAuVIHp82vAWyAefW0GJw&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjJjqWwq92MAxVEVUEAHXiKA0UQ5bgDKAB6BAgIECY&adurl=

Just need to straighten it first by hanging it
At least it will get you closer to naked tubing and not add the weight
Buy a pole threading to help get the line through

https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/nufish-pole-elastic-threader-3m?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD_NdB6YEsP6xZ-eBgLIFq31O0lsT&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqv2_BhC0ARIsAFb5Ac9O9wDzZG9dD8tVE4pslDT94erUaNgiRnHvj4AIIy8tvuujLiYPj-4aAjuREALw_wcB

Or hire a brass for the night to suck the line through the tubing 🤣🤣


Then Add a no trace bead gizmo.


Years ago we used to use plastic tubing like the sea fishing booms as it was all that was around.
Things can be refined a bit now
JamieH
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   Old Thread  #30 16 Apr 2025 at 7.41pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #28
How do you know Chods are banned on Savay?
Fivenil
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Fivenil
   Old Thread  #29 16 Apr 2025 at 8.42am  1  Login    Register
I use a naked chod and i have 7 inches of tubing between the lead and the line saver bead.
essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #28 15 Apr 2025 at 7.42pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #20
Absolutely not, I'd have done exactly what they did.
In ten years of owning a lake I've only ever banned two members mid season and the other members were delighted I did.
Chods aren't allowed on Savay and I know some of the guys were using lead clips with a length of flexible braid as long as required (sometimes really long) and a chod section on the business end.
framey
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framey
   Old Thread  #27 15 Apr 2025 at 6.00pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #25
Mine is
Carew
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Carew
   Old Thread  #26 15 Apr 2025 at 5.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #23
I don’t think my lot were smart enough to realise it had a metal interior
PaulBishop
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PaulBishop
   Old Thread  #25 15 Apr 2025 at 5.00pm  0  Login    Register
Are these ban happy clubs run by a committee of matchmen and their seedless grape IQ's ?
glw1978
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   Old Thread  #24 15 Apr 2025 at 4.42pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #23
I tried making up the chod with tungsten tubing the bailiffs suggested and its rubbish. I think ill give up on that idea and just go back to ronnies.
JeffE
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JeffE
   Old Thread  #23 15 Apr 2025 at 9.49am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #21
You can't win mate. My club banned it because of the metal inner.
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