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Tyto
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   Old Thread  #50 24 Oct 2024 at 5.07pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #48
Mine are boiled and then air dried. I'd almost forgotten about the microwave method. I'll maybe have another go with that on my next batch 👍
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #49 24 Oct 2024 at 6.09am  0  Login    Register
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I simmer mine. Never put them in boiling water.
Ynnek
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   Old Thread  #48 24 Oct 2024 at 3.20am  0  Login    Register
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Did you boil or microwave your pop ups?
Microwaving can take glass sphere free pop ups to another level.
Smurf
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Smurf
   Old Thread  #47 23 Oct 2024 at 7.08pm  0  Login    Register
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Absolutely, wear a suitable face mask and for home rollers only mix outside. But as far as the fish are concerned it's SiO2 which is in a lot off processed food (E551 i seem to recal) which the same humans probably happily munch on
Tyto
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   Old Thread  #46 23 Oct 2024 at 5.26pm  1  Login    Register
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Yeah, I actually remember that " discussion " that you had ! They just couldn't grasp the details but probably thought nothing of using a piece of plastic corn. I have experimented with buoyant food ingredients such as shrimp shell powder, soya isolates, caseinates etc but so far it's been the 3M microspheres that give more consistent results I'll keep tinkering to see if I can produce an acceptable pop up purely from feed ingredients. It's definitely possible, just haven't had the time recently.
mark1009
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   Old Thread  #45 23 Oct 2024 at 5.03pm  1  Login    Register
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I'd say there's more concern over people using it without taking the necessary safety precautions . Do not use it unless you have the correct face mask. Also you don't want this stuff floating around your kitchen.
Smurf
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Smurf
   Old Thread  #44 23 Oct 2024 at 1.44pm  0  Login    Register
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I'm waiting for the 'can't use glass in baits it will kill the fish' brigade to jump in here
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #43 23 Oct 2024 at 6.58am  0  Login    Register
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Thank you. I will have a little play with this. I was thinking of using a mix of milks with soya, semo, maize, egg alb, whey gel, 3M and basemix to try to get a round bait. I hadn’t considered cornflour. Thank you
Tyto
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   Old Thread  #42 22 Oct 2024 at 5.29pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #38
No ball ache required !
If you're not averse to using 3M glass bubbles ( add slowly and wear a P3 respirator, shake ingredients in a sealed tub to mix ) then try this as a starting point.

25 g WPC 80
20 g Calcium Caseinate
20 g Cornflour
10 g 3M Glass Microspheres
10 g Egg Albumen
5 g Coconut Flour
5 g Roast Peanut Meal
5 g Brewers Yeast

5 ml Scopex Flavour
5 ml Corn Steep Liquor
30 ml Liquid Egg White
10 ml MPG
1 g Citric Acid
2 g Betaine

Air dry for 3/4 days after boiling and boost or glug if you like.

If you require more buoyancy just increase the proportion of glass microspheres even up to 20 %. You just need to reduce the amount of other ingredients slightly to compensate. The last three ingredients and flavour can obviously be substituted for any attractor powders you wish. These will be quite durable hook baits and are better mounted using a metal bait screw, rather than trying to pierce with a baiting needle.
Hope that helps
SHimmer45
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SHimmer45
   Old Thread  #41 20 Oct 2024 at 10.37am  0  Login    Register
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QB are still as i understand
bigfisher
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bigfisher
   Old Thread  #40 19 Oct 2024 at 11.11pm  3  Login    Register
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I still have my baf trade account even after the changes

I don't fancy mucking about with kilos of various products but if it's pop up and Wafter mix you guys are all wanting drop me a pm 👍
junglist
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junglist
   Old Thread  #39 19 Oct 2024 at 7.34pm  1  Login    Register
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Jason sticky sharp hooks / baits sells his own pop up mix

So when BAF go trade only what's left out there for home Rollers?

AA baits
Target baits
Are Quality baits still going?

What non angling websites would you recommend for ingredients?
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #38 19 Oct 2024 at 2.37pm  1  Login    Register
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Your experience mirrors mine exactly. I just couldn’t get a decent round bait out of the AA ultra mix unless using it for wafters where it’s only in at 20%, and our process is well dialled in. I think I might revisit the CC Moore’s offerings.

Or I guess the other option is to develop my own mix completely from scratch but that would be a ball ache.

2ambream
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   Old Thread  #37 19 Oct 2024 at 12.20pm  0  Login    Register
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AA is Another I struggle to get round baits with that went in the bin

Best ones I've ever used were richworth and baf by a long way, both made round baits and offered a nice texture to release attractors, some of these pop up mixes are like a snooker ball when boiled.

I would imagine somebody must know the brains of richworth pop up mix? A p.m with a recipe would be much appreciated right now? 😅
2ambream
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   Old Thread  #36 19 Oct 2024 at 12.18pm  1  Login    Register
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I tried that years ago, it would lift the titanic. I found it impossible to make round baits. I ended up throwing it in the bin
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