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runneil
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runneil
   Old Thread  #110 11 Aug 2025 at 12.39pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #109
Interesting subject this , I'll start a new post in 'Bait' 👍
mjb07
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mjb07
   Old Thread  #109 11 Aug 2025 at 0.25am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #108
Ive been having great success washing out my baits in warm water mixed with honey i belive it was mark from shb that i first saw using it. Brilliant additive
VLT
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VLT
   Old Thread  #108 10 Aug 2025 at 5.59pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #103
I have been using honey on my bait, seems to work.
The_Andyman
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The_Andyman
   Old Thread  #107 10 Aug 2025 at 4.52pm  0  Login    Register
The follow up video is due at 5pm if anyone is interested and didn't already know
whataclonker
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whataclonker
   Old Thread  #106 10 Aug 2025 at 2.42pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #105
"riggy pressured fish"

I'm quite lucky (depending on your pov), as in my case their neither of those.

"natural food ingredients"

Only the finest.
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #105 10 Aug 2025 at 2.20pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #104
If its high attraction based on chemical flavours then it isn't going to be enough to consistently fool riggy pressured fish.
If the extra attraction is based on natural food ingredients then it's oozing a proper food signal.
whataclonker
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whataclonker
   Old Thread  #104 10 Aug 2025 at 10.26am  0  Login    Register
The carp at the lake I'm fishing at the moment are preoccupied with naturals. I'm glugging & dusting my baits to create irresistible 'sweeties' to wean them onto. It seems to be working so I believe hi attract has it's place IMO. I think it depends on many different factors.

On pressured waters though, by NOT using a bright hookbait that's been glugged in sriracha for 2 years, could well be an edge..
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #103 8 Aug 2025 at 10.23pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #102
Many of the commercial glugs and sprays are rubbish. Have you tasted them...
Slightly flavoured corn syrup, no real food signal at all.

My home made glugs are made from real food ingredients, soluble and semi soluble, baits with no preservatives, dried out then rehydrated with the glugs.
Also perfectly happy to use one out the bag if I'm fishing a spot regularly and it's had some bait.
cinisimon
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cinisimon
   Old Thread  #102 8 Aug 2025 at 8.39pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #96
That's the point, I've tried to tout my baits, but caught less than the unglugged one. If a boilie is made with good quality ingredients and well formulated there's anything you can add to improve it. There are bait without any flavour that caught more than all the commercial baits out there.
mjs2302
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   Old Thread  #101 8 Aug 2025 at 11.12am  0  Login    Register
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Here's one of my chat gpt extracts:
A carp's gustatory (taste) system is highly developed, allowing it to detect and respond to dissolved chemical attractants in the water. Carp have taste buds not only inside their mouths but also on their lips, barbels, and even external surfaces like their gill rakers. This extensive distribution of taste receptors makes them highly sensitive to chemical cues in their environment.

How Carp Detect Taste:
Waterborne Chemicals: Carp can detect dissolved attractants (such as amino acids, betaine, and other feeding stimulants) as they pass over their external taste buds and through their gill rakers. This means they can "taste" substances in the water even before physically contacting food.

Physical Contact: Once a food item or particle is inhaled, taste buds inside the mouth provide further chemical analysis. If the food is deemed palatable, the carp will swallow it; if not, it can be ejected.

Barbels and Lips: The barbels, particularly those near the mouth, have a high density of taste receptors. These structures help the carp locate and evaluate potential food sources on the substrate before ingestion.
mjs2302
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   Old Thread  #100 8 Aug 2025 at 11.07am  0  Login    Register
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They're attracted to the colour, and yes, their mouth is full of taste receptors. Spend a few minutes chatting to chat gpt and you can learn loads about attractors, carp chemoreception and taste.
Tinhead
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Tinhead
   Old Thread  #99 8 Aug 2025 at 10.02am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #98
Yet there's others who use washed out baits to simulate bait that's not been eaten for a few days
sharpda
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sharpda
   Old Thread  #98 8 Aug 2025 at 9.53am  0  Login    Register
A couple of things that really shocked me how much liquids he puts on what he thinks is a great bait and why he thinks carp won’t eat bait that’s been on the bottom for a couple of days.

In regards to the hookbaits. The fish are attracted to the hookbait so can’t be that off putting and do fish taste things in their mouths?
Tinhead
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Tinhead
   Old Thread  #97 8 Aug 2025 at 9.52am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #96
Agreed. I've never felt the need to soak or do anything either.
sirch454
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sirch454
   Old Thread  #96 8 Aug 2025 at 7.55am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #87
As a hobbyist bait maker I think you may have a point, I've never been a fan of all those glugs sprays etc. Let the unadulterated boilie do the talking
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