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Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #7 31 Jul 2022 at 11.35am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #3
As Adam says - tie on the mainline with a palmor and snip and re-tie on every bag - with practice its almost as quick as looping it on but a much more streamlined connection especially when using tubing and the supplied silicone connector sleeve etc

I'm assuming its your mainline loop where the breakages occur and not the fused gemini loop? When tieing with a palomar just be carefull when snipping off the knot as you can sometimes damage the fused fluro loop if your not careful which can break over time even with the slightest nick / abraision . . .
NickGordon
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NickGordon
   Old Thread  #6 31 Jul 2022 at 8.45am  0  Login    Register
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If you ever tie a knot on your Mainline, either at the end or further up you create a weak spot.
If you ever get a break-off it is usually the knot has given way, strangulation, cutting through itself

Knots part way up the mainline will break under a lot less pressure than at the end.

Simple way to use PVA bags is to stop thinking about the 'quick way', and go back to old fashioned. Every cast tie yourself a fresh bag every cast, you don't need to be casting seconds after the retrieve.

So many ways to tie a PVA bag, just around the hook, the hooklink and bait in the bag, just the lead in the bag (pendant, lead clip or running leads) with the hooklink outside and hook nicked in the corner, or the whole lot in the bag.
Halfcentury
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   Old Thread  #5 31 Jul 2022 at 8.01am  0  Login    Register
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What knot are you using to create the loop and how old is your mainline?
jjw
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jjw
   Old Thread  #4 30 Jul 2022 at 3.51pm  0  Login    Register
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Yeah looks like tying it on is the way forward. Cheers.
sharpercarper85
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sharpercarper85
   Old Thread  #3 29 Jul 2022 at 7.17pm  1  Login    Register
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What breaking strain is your mainline? Using loop to loop method your mainline will be rubbing against itself under the type of extreme tension you’re talking about. It’s a fine method for open water bag fishing but if fishing tight to snags etc then just tie the stem to the mainline with a palomar knot rather than doing loop to loop, it will take you a few seconds longer at most, will give you a much stronger connection and you can still make the bags up ready to go as normal just snip the knot off and re-tie each time.
Spod
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Spod
   Old Thread  #2 29 Jul 2022 at 3.59pm  0  Login    Register
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Use their tubing system, it will no doubt be the large loop that is the issue.

You can still quick change, just slide the tubing up the line, connect a new bag and push it all back down
jjw
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jjw
   Old Thread  #1 29 Jul 2022 at 3.27pm  1  Login    Register
Looking for some advice. Recently went back to solid bags as the ability to have bags made up and quick to change.
I'm using a loop on my mainline, sticking it through the loop on the stem then popping the bag through the loop.
Several times I've snagged in the weeds and snapped the line at the loop when I applied pressure that was less than I use when trying to drag a carp out of the weed. Lost a fish this morning and the break is always at the stem connection. Is there a correct way to tie these on?
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