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In reply to Post #378
Yes the feedback so far is mega! I hope it doesn’t let you all down!
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Really like the nut bait. Think it’s going to have a great year
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In reply to Post #371
I've banged on about nut baits not being brilliant for winter for a long time, but people insist on them.
The one we've been developing is low fat, and about as close to HNV as you can get with a nut based but BUT my preference would always be a well formulated combination bait like what you've mentioned.
However its a consumers market, I'll be shocked if your nut bait doesn't end up accounting for at least 50% of your sales once established.
Years ago I made what I thought was as close to perfection as boiled baits got, however field testers didn't like it until it was a certain colour 
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In reply to Post #373
Probably bad angling, not the bait, but the bait is normally the first thing to blame.
So many good baits around, ready made wise, the people casting them out would not know the PH of said bait.
Unless you have an inner Tim Paisley 
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In reply to Post #371
Always used to be a bird food bait in the winter used to use hutchys red or yellow seed or when finances allowed his protein mixrvite 👍
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In reply to Post #373
Baits that fail……could be a number of things, excess flavours, lack of aminos, to high in certain things.
Carp will pick up most things once but that’s not good enough long term.
Citric acid is a repellent if you overdose
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In reply to Post #371
when some baits fail dismally could it be down to PH, thanks.
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In reply to Post #370
That's very enlightening. I for one did not realise there were production issues with using eggshells, I assumed they were just chucked in a blender then added to the mix.
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In reply to Post #369
There seems to be general feeling that nut based boilies are good in winter but i personally have never found this to be completely accurate.My winter results have always been much better with fish/bird/milk boilies and it’s the winter when I do the majority of my angling. However any bait which is over applied at the time of the year when carp can take or leave food is going to end up sitting on the lakebed for the tufties!
Making a nut bait that works in the depths of winter, I focussed more on the other ingredients that I know will still be consumed in temps below 7/8 degrees. I have been impressed with the early catch reports on tricknut but if you follow us on social media you will see that Nutriplex is a consistent cold water producer.
Making a good winter bait is very difficult. I always used to revert to maggot fishing in winter but they are banned on many waters now which actually did me a favour. Like I said before I haven’t caught a carp on a maggot hookbait since 2016 and I’m at a place now where I’m so confident with the tactics in winter that I’m not sure if I will need to change it.
Minimum feed maximum attraction in winter
In Summer………..feed them and they will come 😂
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In reply to Post #369
My personal opinion is apart from the crunch I don't think they notice it. but at 4 quid a sack its less of a ball ache to get crunch than egg shell, which considering a lot of uk eggs are dipped in a shell detergent, need to be washed and ideally oven dried to destroy the membrane also.
I think for enough coarse nut product to cause buoyancy issues you'd be looking at it not being able to be rolled. I've experimented and the upper limits can be quite high with certain nuts
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In reply to Post #367
But do the carp like it?
Its like a lot of ingredients, we can go on about amino context, availability, etc,etc, but if the fish like eating it why wouldn’t you use it?
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In reply to Post #367
Fat and oil content with nut baits pose many problems, various levels of nut product buoyancy from batch to batch, rolling issues due to nut pieces, and slowing up attractor leakage if too much in the end product.
But it is a learning curve and a compromise for all of us.
Many lines of thought are better than one 
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In reply to Post #363
And ironically probably the best nut bait ingredient of recent years is fluffy and with no lumps 😂
I get what you mean with the texture, and with the weight, this is one of my concerns with adding too much but, the buoyancy of the ingredient has a lot to do with the fat content which I’ve always tried to keep low in a bait, I’ve found if you go beyond 20% with these less used nut products ( although they’re used by a few companies ). Then it starts to lock the bait up, as well as dictates a very low fat content to any subsequent ingredients, I think you’ll get away with it more them being chunky though, the same volumes in a fine grind could cause havoc lol.
In response to people’s assumption about intestinal transit, many many “fine powders” as you’d see them are actually chock full of fibre, along with the chunky nature of the ingredients in this bait I just don’t think it would be necessary, it’s unique selling point as gaz has mentioned is weight, it can “settle down”. Some of the fussier mixes.
And lastly to the bloke who likes bread crumb, different kettle of fish in a bait. Yes pure bread crumb makes them go potty at times but not when locked up in a bait, it just makes said bait cheaper to roll as breadcrumb is about 11 quid a sack
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In reply to Post #360
I have long thought that there may be a secondary benefit of using oyster shell in baits, namely pH buffering of the bait. Unfortunately I don't know enough about the chemistry to be positive about this, or to explain it in a meaningful way. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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In reply to Post #362
Nice to see someone asking questions and getting answers in a way that isn’t slagging each other off. See we do all get on with each other on here 
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