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Size 4 Muggas, Gemini tidy boom low level Ronnie, Mainlline or Sticky pop-ups.
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In reply to Post #63
"Yeah think the way people use them are the issue. Another note is a decent pop up. I like a corkball but also a 12mm airball type in the spring. Finding a 12 mill that will hold up all that metal for any length of time is trial and error."
Proper Job Popups.
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In reply to Post #63
I meant to add this as well, a drooping pop up is also a big reason for poor hook holds and losses, I was concerned about this until I found proper job popups, even their 13mms will stay bolt upright for days on end and have full confidence in them. For short day sessions I’m also confident in ns1+ for buoyancy. Or yes corkballs.
I recently watched frank warricks video on chods, and although i respect the man greatly. Some of his advice on that was something I’d steer well clear of. Using wafter on chods etc
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In reply to Post #62
Yeah think the way people use them are the issue. Another note is a decent pop up. I like a corkball but also a 12mm airball type in the spring. Finding a 12 mill that will hold up all that metal for any length of time is trial and error.
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In reply to Post #61
I’m always baffled by people often saying they lose fish on chod rigs. To this day I’ve never lost one and always had excellent hook holds. Perhaps I’m wrong but I think people must be setting them up wrong.
I always fish 1oz leads (swivel cut off and hoop covered by sleeve) less lead jangling during fight. If I need the extra distance instead of using a bigger lead I’ll just wrap some paste around the 1oz and shape into a bomb
Also hook sharpness is more paramount with chod rigs than all others, as there’s no real lead weight to set the hook and also free movement between beads. I also fish beaked and barbed hooks, so possibly that stops some losses. Not overly sure what sets the hook because although people claim the leadcore is what does it, I’m really not convinced. It doesn’t weigh much under water. I personally think with a razor hook, the moment they close their mouth around the bristle they are at least *****ed.
I’m so confident in chods that I actually prefer them to hinges now. Maybe that will change in time. I’ve also fished chods on clear spots and it seems to work for me pretty much anywhere. Also my chod fishing came about as the venue I fish has very smart spooky fish that you often have to locate and cast near. For this a chod is also the best rig in my biased opinion. Small lead so minimal spook and also fishes over pretty much any ground.
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In reply to Post #60
First time I came across the chod I though it was genius - in the right situations. I don't get that at all with the roddie having used the chod and being familiar with its weaknesses. The only potential positive I can see is that it's different - and different is normally a good thing.
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In reply to Post #55
Maybe, but when i first saw the chod i thought wtf is that .... It will never catch 
I would be interested to know if anyone has used the "Roddie" though .... ive heard rumours it is very effective ... unfortunately for me I will now have to wait until June 16th to even attempt it 
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In reply to Post #58
Also both very, very effective rigs mate, as you know 
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In reply to Post #57
Yes i probably should do really. I just find it looks cluttered and have always been happy with the hinge (at a variety of heights) or the multi for pop up rigs.
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In reply to Post #56
You should tie one up mate. Folks say it's just the latest fashion and that it has too many bells and whistles etc, but I have now all but ditched the hinge, which I used almost exclusively for more than 20 years, for the ronnie/spinner. It is that good imo.
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In reply to Post #55
Agreed - cannot seen any benefit at all.
Though i haven't even tied up a Ronnie rig, let alone used one (nor do i feel any inclination to) so i am clearly behind the times!
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In reply to Post #53
Imo a 'roddie' takes all the worst bits of the chod and exaggerates them. I can think of no reason anyone would try that.
The chod has some serious flaws but adds value in that it can get a bite from areas otherwise unfishable. A roddie takes the inherent flaws of the chod and makes them much worse imo.
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In reply to Post #49
Thanks all - i have recently been putting it the lead side of the break. i used to always put it on the tag of the loop. i think partly due to worrying about squeezing the shot too hard onto the hooklink.
will have a play and see how they sit in a tank test.
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In reply to Post #51
a friend has used this - calls it (or was told it was called) the Roddie. 
Not sure there is much benefit to be gained over a chod though. i know he had a few on it but cant remember if he had any issues with hook pulls etc.
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In reply to Post #51
the fish has to literally kiss your leader to get the Ronnie section in its mouth. the chod rig was terrible for hook pulls until we started separating the lead on a different section of leadcore or using a shockleader sleeve to cushion the chod against the lead. in my opinion the Ronnie fished as a chod would be hookpull central and doesn't really offer anything a chod don't. i always use a short 2 inch boom on my chods now and i aint had a problem with hookpulls since.
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