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Oldfellah
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Oldfellah
   Old Thread  #176 6 Mar 2009 at 11.12am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #175
I can assure you that a vaccine has existed for some time for Weils desease (leptospirosis) and both I and my son had had the jabs. I also have spoken to a fish farming friend and several other lake owner friends over here in France and they have now had the jabs also. Whether the UK health system is up to speed on this I cannot say but it really is worth a call to find out.
bourbon82
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bourbon82
   Old Thread  #175 6 Mar 2009 at 10.58am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #174
then decide to save themselves a fortune & just tell everyone "dont touch rat piss....."
fair point that
Brian_Woolsey
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Brian_Woolsey
   Old Thread  #174 6 Mar 2009 at 10.50am  0  Login    Register
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surely with all of our govt experts a vaccine would have been developed a long time ago.......

personally, i`d have thought they would look at the cost of producing a vaccine,
look at how many people are affected by it each year,

then decide to save themselves a fortune & just tell everyone "dont touch rat piss....."
bourbon82
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bourbon82
   Old Thread  #173 6 Mar 2009 at 10.47am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #171
although if a vaccine for humans is available now, then i stand corrected.

hey, what do i know? surely with all of our govt experts a vaccine would have been developed a long time ago.......
heratige
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heratige
   Old Thread  #172 6 Mar 2009 at 10.42am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #169
just off the phone from the doctors regarding the jab against the disease,,they are gonna get back to me this morning so i will let you know the outcome ,,got to be worth getting ,,
Brian_Woolsey
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Brian_Woolsey
   Old Thread  #171 6 Mar 2009 at 10.42am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #170
& as far as im aware, ken is correct.

although if a vaccine for humans is available now, then i stand corrected.

i think oldfellah was suggesting it would be a good idea without actually knowing one way or another.
bourbon82
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bourbon82
   Old Thread  #170 6 Mar 2009 at 10.38am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #169
post 92 from ken reads........
Yes, you are correct, no vaccine exists, contrary to some opinions.

that leaves me a bit confused you see bryan
Brian_Woolsey
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Brian_Woolsey
   Old Thread  #169 6 Mar 2009 at 9.37am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #168
in·oc·u·late (-nky-lt)
tr.v. in·oc·u·lat·ed, in·oc·u·lat·ing, in·oc·u·lates
1. To introduce a serum, vaccine, or antigenic substance into (the body of a person or animal), especially to produce or boost immunity to a specific disease.


got a jab, to you & me!
bourbon82
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bourbon82
   Old Thread  #168 6 Mar 2009 at 9.35am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #167
whats innoculated oldfella read this elsewhere last night but there was only the term and not the meaning
Oldfellah
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Oldfellah
   Old Thread  #167 6 Mar 2009 at 7.56am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #166
Lots of good advice Ken but surely the mosr eefective way to ensure this horrible desease is not a threat is simply get innoculated against it.
KenTownley
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KenTownley
   Old Thread  #166 6 Mar 2009 at 5.26am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #165
Anthony: I guess it is virtually impossible to avoid contact with possibly contaminated water. Each time you pick up a fish for the pic, when you handle the west net, sling or sack; there are many situations in day to day carp fishing when it is inevitable that the angler comes in contact with water.

I think what we have tried to do in this thread is remind anglers of the risks involved and how to try to prevent infection. Should the bacteria take hold - and remember it only rarely does so - we have outlined the symptoms and the necessary course of action to take if you think you have been affected.

I would imagine many anglers are attacked by the leptospirosis bacteria every year but only a small percentage go on to catch the Disease. We live in a risky world and avoiding risk is just about impossible. That said, things like washing your hands in the lake, or pouring a bucket of water over someone certainly do not help reduce the risk.

I am now a firm believer of taking precautions against the bacteria as I never want to go through that illness again...EVER! It was horrible and at one stage instead of thinking I was going to die, I was actually hoping I was!.

So to sum up: Yes we are all at risk, and though the risk is slight, it is foolish to think that it will not happen to you.

Therefore:

1) Take the precautions outlined previously, including frequent use of an anti-bacteria wipe or gel.
2) If you think that you have been put at risk and start to feel a bit chesty and heady with the flu coming on, BE AWARE that it might not be flu and get yourself to the dotor's lickety-split.
bourbon82
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bourbon82
   Old Thread  #165 5 Mar 2009 at 9.45am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #163
from a journalists point of view ken do you think that the other writers/ editors should stop telling people that washing their hands in lake water before handling their baits should be stopped? from my point of view i used to do this a lot but felt the need wasnt there so stopped doing it, what with working with masonry a lot i usually end up with a good handfull of cuts on my hands between monday and friday
heratige
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heratige
   Old Thread  #164 5 Mar 2009 at 8.57am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #163
maybe as a thought we could have the posts of your pics at the top to show the importance of this thread ,,
KenTownley
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KenTownley
   Old Thread  #163 5 Mar 2009 at 6.37am  0  Login    Register
This thread is now 163 posts long...To anyone coming to the thread for the 1st time and thinking, well I'll just read a page or two, please read it from post 1...It will open you eyes, I can tell you!
Wraith
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Wraith
   Old Thread  #162 5 Mar 2009 at 2.39am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #160
Bravo fella, if everyone keeps posting little titbits like that then eventially we'll have a thread that has all the info you'll need


wraith
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