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scozza
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   Old Thread  #362 22 Jun 2024 at 3.09pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #349
sir Alex or pep doing that!

Nope, that’s what they need when the are playing like that, some hairdryer

I read Southgate has a leadership team, Kane, Bellingham and a couple more, if this is the case then it tells your about their mentality and thinking. Tactically we got pressured and folded and did not have a plan B or C. I worry

He needs to get on the touchline and tell them how it is ffs
vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #361 22 Jun 2024 at 2.01pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #360


Var has been very swift overall, a great improvement, I like that snickometer thing too.
If it can be kept as swift I'd like it to be used when the ref makes a clear and obvious error in all instances, there have been a fair few wrong everything's, throw ins, free kick, a card and corners.
jeffire
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jeffire
   Old Thread  #360 22 Jun 2024 at 12.38pm  0  Login    Register
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Totally agree atwell is a ****
Tinhead
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Tinhead
   Old Thread  #359 22 Jun 2024 at 12.34pm  0  Login    Register
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I think VAR should be used this way...........
If the ref has made a clear and obvious mistake then VAR should overrule it. That shouldn't take long to do.
If it's going to ages then it can't be clear and obvious mistake and so the refs decision is used.

I haven't watched all the matches but from what I can gather VAR decisions have been swift.
In this instance I wonder how long it would've taken if the refs weren't British?


vossy1
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   Old Thread  #358 22 Jun 2024 at 12.30pm  0  Login    Register
The Netherlands were robbed and that ref was biased, as for the TV commentary you'd think the French were playing each other
Not sure if you guys saw it but on one of the replays as the ball came past the defender both the goalies feet were off the ground. How can his dive be impeded if he physically can't dive, hence just watching it. Any goalie worth there salt would have dived if they could, player there or not

So now all goalies will just stand there when a opposing player is in a offside position, not interfering with play and the ref will side with them, great precedent being set there.

TBF, the refs and var have been pretty good up until then, trust the U.K unit to bring it into Q again!
Stokebloke
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   Old Thread  #357 22 Jun 2024 at 10.46am  0  Login    Register
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Cobblers.
The only person impeding the keeper was his team mate stood Infront of him causing him to see the ball late then blame Dumfries. If it was 'offside' then why take so long to come up with that decision? I will agree with the commentators, they are now using VAR to deliberately scratch off goals, it's not being used for its intended purpose. GOAL!
InTheMargin
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   Old Thread  #356 22 Jun 2024 at 6.33am  0  Login    Register
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Dissagree. It was offside. Dumphries was in an offside position and impeded the keepers ability to attempt to play the ball (dive for it). Regardless of whether anyone thinks it was saveable or not..... he was stood where the keeper would have to dive to make an attempt to save it. As much as everyone wanted the dutch to win.....it was offside.
mal
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mal
   Old Thread  #355 21 Jun 2024 at 10.22pm  0  Login    Register
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Taylor and Atwell realised that a Liverpool player was involved in the build up

No goal...

Heard a rumour that Olise has signed for Bayern. Great move for him if its true. I would've liked him at anfield though
Stokebloke
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   Old Thread  #354 21 Jun 2024 at 10.12pm  0  Login    Register
Dutch was robbed!
Cam
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   Old Thread  #353 21 Jun 2024 at 10.01pm  0  Login    Register
First VAR controversy of the tournament....Premier League refs
troutybrown
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   Old Thread  #352 21 Jun 2024 at 9.38pm  1  Login    Register
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Agree about TTA no one was making runs for him, for me Watkins should've gone upfront with Kane, Gordon on left 4 4 2 and go at them.
Cam
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   Old Thread  #351 21 Jun 2024 at 4.41pm  0  Login    Register
Have we been knocked out..must of missed that?

***** performances past two games.
People slowly catching up about Southgate. We have the players, he don't know how to use them.

Trent getting the brunt of it all as usual..he was no worse than the £100m pound player that plys his trade as a midfielder and he's a not a midfielder. Best stats out of the 11 and came off after 55 minutes..go figure.

They have to do better. No leaders at all past two games.

TBH I don't give two hoots about performances, it's results that matter in tournament football.
Happy to watch England play ***** and win 1-0 all the way to the final.
Remember Greece?

Just my opinion so don't get all your Guardiola's in a twist

vossy1
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   Old Thread  #350 21 Jun 2024 at 2.36pm  0  Login    Register
Big match for the Netherlands tonight, my Orange shirt will be coming out provided the moths haven't eaten it
karmh
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   Old Thread  #349 21 Jun 2024 at 8.32am  0  Login    Register
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The hugs and pats on the back when the plays come off the girls and when the games finished after that performance, can you imagine sir Alex or pep doing that!
And the comment he made about not having a replacement for kalvin Phillips? Jesus how clueless, there's about 30 better options England have. I think the players have had enough of him as well now.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #348 21 Jun 2024 at 7.54am  0  Login    Register
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After watching that, similar thoughts to me mate. Quality players in their respective teams. As an England team utter crap and tactically dog 💩

Look how Spain are playing!

Player for player I think we are superior to them, old premiership / high tempo down the wing mentality. Itdon’t work in international football
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