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kizzi
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   Old Thread  #110 29 Jul 2025 at 4.42pm  3  Login    Register
What struck me listening to the podcast was how they were talking about how much free bait they were going to order before it shuts.

Fair enough having the odd tub of pop ups but expecting “a few hundred kilos” of free boilies from an operation that has failed just seemed odd to me after they had been talking about how hard it is to make a profit.
Northern-Dan
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Northern-Dan
   Old Thread  #109 29 Jul 2025 at 8.06am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #34
I make this correct, squeeze hard working people for every penny they’ve got and then still expect them to have enough spare money to splash out on what essentially is luxuries to keep these huge firms/industries in business, it’s just not happening is it!

It’s pretty simple, if people feel like they have residual money they will spend it, new cars/move house/renovate/extend/holiday/buy more fishing/golfing/camping kit etc etc so if these firms are going down the pan due to lack of sales that tells you all you need to know!
blackfield
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blackfield
   Old Thread  #108 28 Jul 2025 at 6.42pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #106
Not meaning to be.... but uncle Tim was never backwards at coming forwards over ethics or matters of principle.....
kells
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kells
   Old Thread  #107 28 Jul 2025 at 3.53pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #102
The thing with bait prices is a lot of the shop retail company's have been canning the arse out of it for years with there mark up.. now inflation has slowly caught up with it all. There's not the Margins there ever was. There realising there's only so much you can charge for a kilo of fish food.. if Alan Blair thinks charging 18 quid for a jar of nuts would of helped them out a bit better..he's probably the reason there in the situation there in..
nicksmith1
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nicksmith1
   Old Thread  #106 28 Jul 2025 at 1.56pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #105
Just typed a response to that and re-read your message... Bit controversial there...
blackfield
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blackfield
   Old Thread  #105 28 Jul 2025 at 1.37pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #103
Yep.... but what amazed me was how so little was said in mags like carp talk and carpworld. No idea why? Sarcasm switch now off....
nicksmith1
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nicksmith1
   Old Thread  #103 28 Jul 2025 at 12.29pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #95
Seems like the carp angling fraternity have short memories in France. I know a few French anglers who have been / are sponsored by Nash. Always surprised me that they would want to be associated with them after Cavagnac (although that took place a long time ago now) Cheap bait / tackle and any sense of moral compass goes out the window for some...
crazycarper92
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crazycarper92
   Old Thread  #102 28 Jul 2025 at 11.48am  2  Login    Register
I’ve listened to the podcast & a lot of what’s said is disingenuous. The jars of tigers should be £18 not £12? Really!? Selling kilo bags of boilie at 3 for 2 price made it unviable? Really?

What about the droves of social media wannabes you give free bait to hoping to flood the social media market? If you limited that you’d save fortunes. How much was providing each of those with free bait providing in sales? Yes I understand you need sponsored anglers, but nash had loads of them. All with NT in their usernames to show their affiliation. Maybe at some time flooding socials like this reaped benefits. But people see through this eventually.

That said maybe I / we are not the target audience. I for one cannot understand the love for Alan Blair. Literally just piggy backs onto other people’s fishing and shouts bruv a lot. I also doubt him saying they weren’t prepared to use inferior materials in their products a strange one. Doesn’t stop them outsourcing manufacturing to China does it. Be a shame if Nash was to go, but it feels the writing is on the wall to some degree. They’ll be banking on this new scope range to get them out of trouble
kells
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kells
   Old Thread  #101 28 Jul 2025 at 9.25am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #97
English carp fisherie helping themselves to a free supply of stock from public waters.. that's not going to upset anyone is it...As we all know they were all at it at some point
Jaspertinto
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   Old Thread  #100 28 Jul 2025 at 9.04am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #98
Must be up **** creek if they cant get a line of credit
blackfield
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blackfield
   Old Thread  #99 28 Jul 2025 at 8.05am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #97
Pm for you.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #98 27 Jul 2025 at 11.21pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #96
Yes, but if you can't pay your manufacturer for them ,you can't sell them
Tadpole2
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Tadpole2
   Old Thread  #97 27 Jul 2025 at 10.27pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #95
What was the Cavagnac affair please.....?? Ta
Mr-Bean-Laden
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Mr-Bean-Laden
   Old Thread  #96 27 Jul 2025 at 10.22pm  0  Login    Register
I don’t understand how this impacts the Bushwhacker. Even if they have cash flow issues, surely you try and sell more of your best products?
blackfield
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blackfield
   Old Thread  #95 27 Jul 2025 at 7.38pm  1  Login    Register
Just watched the Nash podcast.... apparently, rising costs and brexit key factors behind the decision to close the bait section. I wonder how much impact the Cavagnac affair hurt sales in France?

I'm not a Nash fan and have tried to avoid using anything Nash branded following bad experiences with the original titan, but I felt genuinely sorry for AB as he seemed genuinely sad at having to make staff redundant.
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