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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #31 9 Jul 2025 at 11.51am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #28
Our neighbour just got rid of his Kuga, constant dpf problems.

Electric is a joke for French trips. The guy at Peugeot tried to sell us the electric Rifter, said the range was near 300 miles, I asked about fully loaded motorway, he said just over 100 miles probably. I asked him if he'd buy one to go to France, 800-1000 miles, he just laughed 😅 and said no, not yet.
Fivenil
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   Old Thread  #30 9 Jul 2025 at 10.56am  0  Login    Register
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Communal car park so unfortunately i have no way of plugging in, plus trips to france would be a mare.
Great-Blondini
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   Old Thread  #29 9 Jul 2025 at 9.49am  0  Login    Register
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Kuga plug in
fair bit of room inside and without plugging in it does 55mpg as it self charges.
lots of my work trips are 200miles round trips with 120 ish of that on motorways
Fivenil
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   Old Thread  #28 9 Jul 2025 at 9.09am  0  Login    Register
Ford Kuga diesel. Brilliant car. Looking at getting a hybrid soon.With a roof box i get 2 loads of gear in for france trips.
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #27 9 Jul 2025 at 8.53am  0  Login    Register
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I think Peugeot got it really right with the design of the Expert, some of the customs look nicer than Transporters which were until then top of my list.

VLT re the Adblue fault, our Rifter had 17000 on the clock when we bought it, now 51000, and the adblue injector has gone twice, luckily both times under warranty. Really disapppointed with that to be honest, and each time Peugeot tried to charge me for a diagnostic, even though I could show them the code and recorded live data showing the emissions increasing over time as the injector blocked. Peugeot knew about a design fault and changed the design of the injector, or so they told me, as it had a different part number to the original.

The 1st time ours went it popped up with 1700 miles to no start, then the next day it was 50 the second time it was 500 miles. I said to the Mrs imagine if we were in France on a fishing holiday.

You are right, you can have the Adblue coded out and given a cost of near £500 each time a injector goes (diag & injector) and cost of hire car in our case, if that goes every few years it would be more than worth it at sub £250. Naturally there are other concerns, legality, more emissions. Not to mention Peugeot saying they couldn't do it for 6 weeks.

Makes me laugh though, each time you need to buy adblue it comes in a great big plastic vat . I wonder what the chemical offset of the vat is compared to the emissions saved
pearbo
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   Old Thread  #26 9 Jul 2025 at 6.09am  0  Login    Register
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When I eventually pull the trigger I think I'm going to go for a 2020ish expert. The 2.0 diesel have the bigger chain, the professional has a few toys too like car play too.
VLT
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   Old Thread  #25 8 Jul 2025 at 8.21pm  0  Login    Register
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I almost went for the new style rifter / berlingo but there wasn't that much legroom for the middle row passengers and the Galaxy was a bit more luxury. Also heard a couple of stories about the adblue systems failing on the Peugeot / Citroen. Can be easily rectified or even coded out though I believe.
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #24 8 Jul 2025 at 6.33pm  0  Login    Register
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We used to have a VW Sharan, when the Galaxy/Alhambra/Sharan were all made in the same place. Without a doubt my favourite fishing car, as you say loads of loads room.
From there we went Berlingo, mine will be 20 years old next year, and now we have a Peugeot Rifter too.

@ AndyCarper, not even safe with a Toyota now, even the Proace uses the PSA engine A lot of folk say if T are happy the 1.5 BHdi must be sorted....hmm.

There are conversion kits for the 7mm PSA timing chain, if you have the older one. There are also garages specialising in rebuilt PSA bhdi engines. Same re the BMW diesels.

VLT
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   Old Thread  #23 8 Jul 2025 at 6.03pm  0  Login    Register
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I got a 2019 Ford Galaxy Titanium X diesel with very low miles. Seats are very practical and it is absolutely massive so I use a motorcycle ramp and wheel the barrow straight in and out.
AndyCarper82
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   Old Thread  #22 7 Jul 2025 at 8.11pm  0  Login    Register
Anything with a wet belt should be avoided for obvious reasons - 1.2 puretec, ecoboost. Avoid 1.5 blue hdi's as they have a chain that fails - thank fords partnership with stellantis for this - stronger chain fitted from feb 2023.
VW group cars have never had great reliability since dropping the 1.9tdi pd - 1.6 diesels have a long list of issues. DSG gearboxes have so many seriously expensive failures their best avoided.

Earlier Citroen automated manual dcf5 boxes should be avoided. Later DCF6 boxes much more reliable.

So, what does that leave? 1.6hdi belt engine cars have good reliability, Renault dci engines seem to be relatively good reliability.

It really is a minefield for a decent vehicle, going with an German brand doesn't necessarily give you better quality/reliability but visually they have many fanboys. Merc Citan's are rebadged Kangoo's so they are a good shout if you want a van.

Whatever you go with good luck, just get a decent warranty and you have some comfort if it does go wrong. Personally I'm gutted by the 1.5bluhdi having so many issues as I was looking to get a mid sized van with this engine, I'm now looking at a Renault Trafic 2.0 dci instead, if I can suss out what Merc Vito engines are good I may look at that as an option too.

SamB
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   Old Thread  #21 7 Jul 2025 at 2.25pm  0  Login    Register
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I was looking at an Octavia Scout as "normal" estate cars have stupidly low ground clearance these days and I live in France so need to go down dodgy tracks. Prices seemed very high 2nd hand though and availability was poor (it was the post covid period). I got a new Dacia Jogger instead, it's perfect for fishing, plenty of space, and i'm not botherered about getting it dirty.

Not a fun drive at all though and obviously "naff", just depends if you like cars and driving or just want a tool for a job.

I think (am hoping !) Dacias tend to be fairly reliable as they re-use old and proven designs.
braders1978
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   Old Thread  #20 7 Jul 2025 at 10.02am  0  Login    Register
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What the hell are you taking with you
strawberryblond
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   Old Thread  #19 7 Jul 2025 at 7.56am  0  Login    Register
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I find this quite embarrassing as I have an A4 Avant and was looking to change as there wasn't enough space 🤦🏼
Great car with excellent mpg too
chrispfox
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   Old Thread  #18 6 Jul 2025 at 7.57pm  0  Login    Register
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I got a Mitsubishi Outlander. Not an estate granted but brilliant.
GGDT
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   Old Thread  #17 6 Jul 2025 at 5.20pm  0  Login    Register
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On my second Audi A4 estate at the moment, the 2.0 TDi version.

The previous one was still going strong at 180k and I only got rid of it because it wasn't ULEZ compliant. Great build quality with loads of stuff as standard, never let me down and I did 160k in it.

Loads of room in the back with the seats down (even with them up the boot is huge) and decent fuel economy too, especially on long motorway runs.



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