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I've managed to get my kit down to "ultralight" weight levels so I've experimented with lots of weight saving measures.
If using a brolly like this that may not be as rigid as some shelter's, here's some things that may be helpful:
1. I only use 2 short storm poles at the sides of the brolly. I suggest using storm poles with auger points as they offer great rigidity.
2. On the front of the brolly instead of long storm poles I use 2 lightweight nylon guy lines. I attach these to the storm pole attachment points. If you want to avoid tripping over them in the dark, angle them slightly sideways or purchase nylon that has reflective thread built in.
3. I also use the Jag Xcavator pegs (only 32g each). Yes they're expensive but I'm happy to pay for the development work that goes in to these kinds of products and to support UK jobs.
4. This brolly only has 2 ribs which touch the floor at the rear, however it has an eyelet on the bell cap so you can add a twin guy line at the rear.
Hope some of this helps?
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In reply to Post #52
Ah I see now, 52 or 58 vs 68, that is quite a difference.
Thanks!
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In reply to Post #51
If your looking for pack down size. I'd be choosing the new quickdraw brollies. If your looking for weight saving it would be the Lo pro. 
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Do you guys see reason to pick one of these new brollies over a lo pro mk2?
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Video up on ESP's YouTube page. They do look good. Shame I've just bought myself another brolly only recently. 
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In reply to Post #46
no problem mate.
To be completely transparent, I havent actually used the mesh yet so wouldnt really like comment at the moment.
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In reply to Post #44
I guess with it being only 2 ribs on the ground at the back (like the old Nash profile), it keeps the whole thing more compact & lighter, the trade off being less stability in wind. Not that that should matter if pegged with poles.
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In reply to Post #35
Hello Tim. Appreciate the photos. How do you find the mosquito mesh arrangement?
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In reply to Post #41
That's ridiculously light has to be the lightest on the market now?
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In reply to Post #42
It'll also be made out of a fabric with a stupid pattern all over it.
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In reply to Post #32
The new scope recon rucksacks are £170, so i reckon you can get 2 esp for one new scope brolly when its out.
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The text on ESP facebook:
NEW!! ESP QUICKDRAW BROLLY & MOZZY DRAPE 52 & 58!!
In shops from late July!!
🎥 Film next week
RRP (including Mozzy Drape) 52 £189.95, 58 £199.95
The new Quickdraw brollys are quick to set up & provide ample coverage for bedchair & kit while providing excellent visibility for observing the water.
They are available in two sizes 52 & 58 & include:
✅Unique design Mozzy Drape
✅Mini detachable groundsheet
✅4 lightweight storm poles
✅8 T' pegs
✅Outer bag, roomy enough to make packing away easy
The brolly's feature a dark olive green 210d cover with 5,000mm hydrostatic head. The inner surface has a lightproof laminate. The frame is made from strong & sturdy 8.5mm fibreglass ribs & features a space saver locking mechanism to maximise headroom even when the brolly is set low.
Three pegging points on the storm sides allow for height adjustment.
5️⃣2️⃣ The 52 brolly is aimed at the angler who prefers a compact shelter & accommodates bedchairs up to 2m in length. Although diminutive, this brolly still provides excellent coverage with plenty of room in front of the bedchair when it is pushed to the back of the brolly.
🦟⛔️The Mozzy Drape is of a unique design. It attaches to the front of the brolly using toggles & is then pegged at each side. The elastic cord running the length of the mesh can be tightened so it is a snug fit around the brolly & the fine mesh simply hangs down with the aid of small weights located around the bottom edge. The drape provides protection from biting insects but is easy to enter & exit simply by lifting the mesh & then dropping it down behind you. This means that there are no zips or magnets that remain open after a hasty exit, so no mozzy's can simply fly inside the brolly. The Drapes both weigh under 1kg & are supplied in a handy draw string bag.
5️⃣8️⃣ The 58 brolly is 12wider than the 52 with longer front ribs allowing for longer and wider bedchairs to be easily accommodated. Just like the 52 it is supplied with a Mozzy Drape, mini groundsheet, 4 storm poles, 8 pegs & the outer bag
52 total weight (brolly, mozzy drape, mini groundsheet, 4 storm poles, 8 pegs & outer bag) 5.0kg. Brolly on its own 3.70kg, Mozzy Drape 900g. Packdown length 52 (132cm)
58 total weight (brolly, mozzy drape, mini groundsheet, 4 storm poles, 8 pegs & outer bag) 5.3kg. Brolly on its own 3.90kg, Mozzy Drape 970g. Packdown length 58 (147cm)
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In reply to Post #33
Hello mate,
I've the Solar Sleep-tec, so it is on the slightly high side.
I just know from similar spec brollies there is not a chance of me sitting in a chair seeing anything. I dont mind a bit of floor sitting, but in winter its not the one.
A real shame as like everyone else in the thread, I'm happy to buy pretty much most things ESP do.
Cheers.
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