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In reply to Post #143
What is your source that the Chinese standard of living is far greater than the UK?
The UK median wage is about £40K a year. Less than 1% of Chinese people earn a salary that is equal to this.
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In reply to Post #142
You were interested enough to come post though.
Not one comment about the big problems the UK faces. It's all okay is it? Really?
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No one wants to respond to this bit below?
"Lets spin this around. White English folk should try going to China where the standard of living is FAR better than ours. Go there illegally. Then tell the Chinese that you want to make China into the UK. That you are bringing all your friends & family... And they need to pay for them. Tell them you will habitat into large groups where the natives are no longer welcome. Tell them you will get white English people voted into positions of power so that you can destroy Chinese traditional way of life. Then tell them that you will all be marching down the high streets chanting anti Chinese sentiments every weekend. Tell them that you expect to be protected by their police whilst doing this. Tell them you expect the Chinese to bend over to accommodate the invasion."
It's all the Jews fault what is happening in the UK? Every time I hear that Corbyn fella he is going on about the Jews. Could someone please explain to me in plain English what the problem is regarding the Jewish people and the left in the UK? Every left leaning voter seems to hate the Jews. I just don't see where it comes from personally. There is sooo much shat going on around the world. But as far as the left are concerned only Gaza & Israel exist you would think.
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I have no interest in political debate on a fishing forum. Im just adding some historical context to the doom mongering.
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In reply to Post #138
Quote... Whilst you're shouting about Muslims for the last 20 years, billions of pounds going out the back door from the uk into pockets of individuals.
I have not been shouting about Muslims for twenty years. Is the north of England and London now full up with Jews, or Muslims? Are there Jews or Muslims marching down our high streets? Could you name the last terrorist incident in the UK involving a Jew? I can't think of any personally. I don't care about the USA, Israel or Gaza mate. I care about the UK.
Between all three of you... Not one of you actually wants to speak about the real problems which the UK faces.
You all voted labour I am guessing?
I am ashamed to admit that I have never voted. That's how non political I am. That will change in the future.
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In reply to Post #137
But what were the living conditions like for the working man while the likes of The East India Company were making The Empire Great?
Don’t let the rhetoric mask the actual history.
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In reply to Post #135
What does racism have to do with what I posted about mate? We are speaking about religion, not race. I am married to a woman from a different race. We are speaking about the problems which the UK faces. Tit for tat resolves zero. Yes we have plenty of nonces. We had one on this very forum who gets let out of jail soon. I'm not interested in Tommy. Or any of the others. Not sure what they have to do with this conversation.
I just don't understand why people on the left instantly bring up Jews constantly when discussing problems in the UK.
Do we have swathes of new Jewish politicians? No. Do we have Jewish rape gangs? No.
I'm intrerested in resolving the problems in the UK... Not the middle east.
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In reply to Post #133
You are looking at a city on fire, shouting at the fire and ignoring the Arsonist.
Who benefits from immigration?
Big buisnes - cheap labour
Hotel owners - massive gov handouts
The israel lobby - demonising Muslims
Government- more tax payers
Big oil - keeps you distracted
Billionares- you aren't looking at them
Whilst you're shouting about Muslims for the last 20 years, billions of pounds going out the back door from the uk into pockets of individuals.
Lobby groups have the power, oil, gas, environmental, foreign etc, they are who your politicians work for.
Why did we go into Iraq? Because of a lie about weapons of mass destruction instigated by Israel. Exactly the same they are doing now to urge the USA to attack Iran.
This left vs right thing is nonsence. And as long as people keep believing these are left vs right problems, we will always have issues.
The way people are ignoring the mandelson scandal is crazy, and steve bannon, plotting to over throw Theresa may. Sex trafficking cover up in the royal family. We have so much foreign influence dictating our government, but everyone seems blind to it, and just keeps wanting to shout at the immigrants.
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In reply to Post #136
Downward spiral definition... A situation in which something continuously decreases or gets worse.
100 years ago we were the empire. We ruled the world. GREAT Britain. That's not the case anymore. We have been on a downward spiral for decades. In the last ten years it has sped up at an alarming rate.
You can sit here all day and pontificate, without really looking at the big problems which the UK faces. We are on a major downward spiral and have been for the last century. We are no longer GREAT Britain. We no longer rule the world or control the empire. That in itself is a major downward spiral.
We gave away our manufacturing. We make zero now. We sold all our energy companies to foreign enteties. The birth of the internet saved us for a while. That's gone now. What is Britain now great at? About all we have left is our financial institutions & the City of London. Property in London is massively foreign owned.
We are seen as a soft touch around the world now. Get out there and find out for yourself.
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“The UK is on one of the biggest downward spirals in mankind's history right now..”
Even if we only focus on England/ the UK I think it’s fair to say this assessment has a fairly narrow viewpoint.
During the two years of plague over 50% of the UK population died.
I don’t think living through the 100 Years War was supposed to be that great for the English working man, same goes for the English Civil War.
If we are looking at religion what about the huge cultural shifts of The Reformation? Protestantism came from abroad, as did Catholicism before that.
If you were around in the early 20th century you had the country on the brink of another civil war, saved by entering WW1. Nearly a million dead in WW1 followed by The Great Depression, then another half a million dead in WW2. A tricky 40 years.
Over the history of mankind I’d say we have it pretty easy right now, regardless of political standpoint.
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In reply to Post #133
In my opinion it isn't solely a UK issue anymore - there are so many interwoven elements that it's hard to gauge where it starts and ends.
Abuse of any female, regardless of where they are from, or where it is done, is abhorrent; I can call out a white skinned grooming gang (Epstein) or a non-white skinned grooming gang (Rotherham) in equal measure, because I have no interest in using it as a political weapon with racism as it's underlying motivator. We don't hear the Yaxley-Lennon mob braying for justice to be done against white abusers and the reason for that is because they don't care about the abuse. If I recall correctly, 40% of those arrested for rioting last summer and setting fire to hotels have a history of domestic violence. That's totally at odds with what they claim to stand for. In reality, they just want to have a few beers and a few lines, find a few victims, and kick off, citing child abuse as a justification for it.
Gotta shoot, I need to try to syphon off more tax. 
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You only need to look at the rape statistics right across Europe since this immigration from the middle east started. Look at all the countries. Up 70%. Up 80%. Up 90%.
We are allowing people whom have very different morals & views about women/girls to us to come here en masse. People whom have a very different culture.... Most of whom openly hate us. Openly hate us because of poxy religion.
The UK is on one of the biggest downward spirals in mankind's history right now. Right before our very eyes. Whilst the world laughs at us. There are specific reasons for all this. Reasons some people simply do not want to look at.
Socialism & open border wishes is behind most of it.
Last year more than a thousand millionaires left the UK. This year there will be far more. Mass exodus. The top few % of earners pay the vast majority of the tax. What will happen for the average working man in the UK when this lunacy has driven most sensible people & high earners from the UK? Anyone who can escape, is escaping. The working man will be absolutely facked. Think you pay a lot of tax now? Wait for what will come when the rich have finished departing.
In the words of Margret Thatcher... The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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In reply to Post #132
But what does anything you just said have to do with the problems going on in the UK mate?
A straight up question? Because this is the stuff that gets rolled out by people with left leaning views the moment anyone tries to speak about the problems in the UK. Stuff about Gaza, Palestine, Epstein, the IDF. What does any of that have to do with little girls getting raped in Manchester, UK, essentially because they are white Christian little girls (Infidels)?
These are OUR little girls being targeted. Nonces are nonces. We have plenty. We don't have gangs of white men raping young Muslim girls, because they are Muslim.
I actually don't understand what any of the stuff in your post has to do with anything I said in mine. Mine was all about the UK. Yours was all about everywhere else except the UK.
I mean that with the greatest respect, and not as some attack. I just get dumbfounded by people on the left of politics who always come up with the same stuff about Jews whilst talking about the problems in the UK.
The Jews in the UK don't blow up buses or trains. They don't try to behead little girls or soldiers. They don't blow up kids at concerts. They are a very well integrated part of UK society. I don't know any Jews. But the ones in London seem perfectly okay. No problems from them whatsoever.
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In reply to Post #131
Agreed about religion being weaponised. It's slowly destroying the world.
I see Tommy short arse is now claiming to be backed by God. Absolute tool, with a trail of muppets behind him lapping it up (along with the lager and the gak). These idiots are very vocal about asian grooming gangs but I don't recall a squeak out of them regarding Epstein, the Royal Family, Trump, or the mass rape and murder of Palestinians in Gaza by the IDF. Luckily, anyone with an iota of brainpower can see through that sh*t.
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In reply to Post #130
That video sort of sums up everything.... I should start by saying I don't give a flying fack about religion. It's all mumbo jumbo to me. Believe what you want.... Just don't force it down my throat on a daily basis.
This is what I do care about.
Headline running across the bottom of the screen... 1000 men being investigated by Manchester police regarding grooming gangs in Manchester... Whilst at the same time, an English speaking muslim is sitting there banging on constantly about the Jews.
We have imported the third worlds problems here. These are middle east problems. NOT British problems... NOT UNTILL we imported the third world here.
This is a Christian based country. It's not Jewish, it's not Muslim... It's Christian.
The Jews have been here forever. I'm a Londoner born & bred. The Jews have always been in London. They fit in. They don't cause big problems. They never have.
Lets spin this around. White English folk should try going to China where the standard of living is FAR better than ours. Go there illegally. Then tell the Chinese that you want to make China into the UK. That you are bringing all your friends & family... And they need to pay for them. Tell them you will habitat into large groups where the natives are no longer welcome. Tell them you will get white English people voted into positions of power so that you can destroy Chinese traditional way of life. Then tell them that you will all be marching down the high streets chanting anti Chinese sentiments every weekend. Tell them that you expect to be protected by their police whilst doing this. Tell them you expect the Chinese to bend over to accommodate the invasion.
See where it gets anyone. You would be laughed off the face of the map. That's how far we have fallen with all this mumbo jumbo PC you gotta love the world bull****. We are self destructing in the UK.
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