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In reply to Post #22
taste is another head fvck area.
whilst they are closely linked, I think taste & smell get mixed up a lot when we talk about carp baits - especially around gustatory & olfactory responses which are quite different but very important. the actual response is probably the most important part but that doesn't happen in the receptors.
the easiest way to find out if something tastes good to carp? ask it's parents 
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In reply to Post #32
But we like coffee?
I know of few people that rate using coffee grinds in bait or in ground bait.
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In reply to Post #33
No its not. Have you tried it. The smell would put you off, but it's not bitter.
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In reply to Post #32
Belacan and other other attractors are bitter?
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In reply to Post #31
Coffeemate isn't a sweetener, it's a creamer.
I think coffee would be a repellent, very bitter and adds nothing.
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In reply to Post #30
Curious on an aspect of this one, I know coffeemate is a sweetner - however, I've never used coffee, and maybe it's that old chestnut of not mixing what we as humans think the fish will like - but coffee with all of it's natural taste/smell and caffeine etc - surely ground coffee added to a base mix or included in a glug could do well on a water?!
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A mate made some wafters with some milk e and they smelled and tasted great.
Has anyone used something like coffeemate or nesquick to achieve a similar smell/taste.
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In reply to Post #28
Look at the labels and take the ones with shrimp and protein content
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In reply to Post #26
Not sure on that bud, the jar pastes have a higher shrimp content but also a much higher water content. The blocks have higher salt and probably more actual shrimp, but that's a guess 😂 which is better? 🤔
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In reply to Post #23
Used belechan block in the Pete B mix for years when i made my own, it didn't require any flavour but i always added a bit of Bakers plumb.
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In reply to Post #25
Have look if you can find some with higher shrimp content 
The higher the better 😅
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In reply to Post #24
Thank you mate, excellent tip.
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In reply to Post #23
Very good stuff, use a fine grater, grate it into your eggs.
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Has anyone had experience with Belacan paste?
I've recently got a pot, reeks beyond words, smells like a dead rat.
https://singkeefoods.co.uk/gb/tean-s-gourmet/280-tean-s-gourmet-spicy-belacan-paste-tumisan-belcan-pedas-230g-9555144301878.html?https://singkeefoods.co.uk/?utm_source=Google+Ads&utm_medium=PMax&utm_campaign=PMax+%7BFoods%7D+5+Ag+%2F%2F+Search+Themes+%2F%2F+Various+Audiences+%28In-m%2C++Aff%2C+Data%29+%2B+No+Audience+%7C+11+Oct+%2723&gclid=CjwKCAiA1-6sBhAoEiwArqlGPiHPyVRgUWG828Q4i5GuzVvJohLi3_bBW3hXV4kEtPxzBNqcd5SDThoCEccQAvD_BwE
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I've gone down the taste route and as ever it's a total mine field. Looking at t1r1 and t1r2 taste receptors among many many others sheds some light on what each receptor does and is looking for and also the reaction from activating these receptors. Bitter taste can be used to detect toxic elements which therefore fish will avoid when detected. Wheres there are a set of receptors that as we know when L aminos are detected is a signal of a protein food. There's another set of receptors that are of most interest (to me anyway) that can detect smaller elements found in mallards reaction that hold a lot of information to the fish about what it has found. Triggers to tell a fish food is present. If you fancy a lot of research, have a look at T2r receptors.
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