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In reply to Post #82
Thanks mate. Have you got a suggestion for a alternative nozzle by any chance?
I typically use 15 or 16mm but Im looking to make barrels on a 14mm table but would like the flexibility for larger.
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In reply to Post #80
I’m not going to say I told you so in that other thread Dave
I knew that was coming  
And Vossy, the nozzles that come with the gun are useless unless you're doing small baits.
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I'm looking at this gun on Ebay at the moment, might finally pull my finger out and get one.
Do you guys buy the witches hats separately?
EDIT, the clear hats that come with it don't look like they have that great a size range but as with all pics this could be misleading. Do they go up to say 20mm size?
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In reply to Post #71
I’m not going to say I told you so in that other thread Dave 
People really should not use any plastic attachments from a hand gun on these powered guns. They come with metal collars & witches hats are 3 for a fiver. When they blow up, they go with a nasty bang. A weighty lump of solid plastic comes off the end at the speed of a bullet from a gun. I’ve blown up two, I’m in no doubts that either time it would have killed someone had it hit them in the head. I put a big deep dent in a solid wall in my old kitchen with one of those Gardner plastic attachments.
You simply can’t use plastic collars or attachment nozzles on these guns. Or exactly as per Baitmans photos you will do the same. We are running five of these guns daily. Witches hats and the metal collars that come with the gun are all you should use.
I purchased two more from the eBay seller two weeks ago. He has loads in stock.
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In reply to Post #78
I wasn't suggesting that a wet mix without hardeners would produce a hard boilie. What I meant was, that you can have an extrudable mix with hardeners and not run the risk of shooting your missus in the kitchen with a Gardner nozzle 😂
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In reply to Post #76
You are correct that if you do specially prepared hard hookers they will resist small fish whittling down.
It's not enough just to say they need to be air dried as a soft pasty mix without the added hardeners, even if its been air dried, will soon revert to a paste like boilie once in the water.
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In reply to Post #76
They will hammer anything. Shop bought, my own baits, anything at all. When there are that many ,they find a way
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In reply to Post #75
What are the hook baits that you get whittled down ? I've made my own for about 35 years and always included egg albumen / whey protein to avoid nuisance species. My most recent ones contain 25 % WPC and 10 % egg albumen. Honestly, it would have to be a roach / piranha hybrid to have any impact on those 😁. For me, it's 3 AM bream that are the problem !
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In reply to Post #74
You've obviously never fished anywhere with a serious head of silvers then. They will absolutely hammer baits. The lake I fish for catfish at the moment has a huge roach population and they whittle boilies down easily
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In reply to Post #73
Why would any mix with alb, whey gel or wpc have to be proper stiff ? It's all down to the moisture content. I've used all three ingredients for years in perfectly extrudable mixes. If the OP 's mix mix is lacking any of these ingredients, then yeah the baits will be softer. But over decades of using homemade baits, even " soft ones ", I've never actually had silvers whittle down baits. In fact, many bait companies now extol the virtues of softer baits with the premise that its more digestible. My opinion is that it just saves them money on ingredients 😂
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In reply to Post #72
Air drying a wet mix will harden it, but once in the water it will soon soften.
A proper stiff mix (with alb, whey gel, wpc) will retain its integrity longer and be more resistant to small silver attack.
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In reply to Post #70
No need to make things more difficult for yourself by trying to extrude an unnecessarily stiff mix. Just get more liquid in there, whether that be liquid egg, food or even just water. Any of this extra moisture can then be removed via air drying should you wish.
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In reply to Post #70
The gardner insert blew, bought another and that also went. Nothing to do with how old it is or how much its been used. The plastic just isn't up to the pressure from the gun.
I have bought another and will just use on my hand gun with pop up and wafter mixes.
The gun pressure will easily push a stiff mix, but then it will also pop the top off the gardner insert.
Just use the witches hats...
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In reply to Post #69
How long did the Gardner attachments last before they blew up? I only probably roll about 30kg a year so I'm thinking they might last??? Although my mix is pretty stiff with lots of seed and egg shell in it 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
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In reply to Post #68
Cut them down to size. Always cut less than you think, as so easy to screw it up.
Get the nozzle right for barrels, then you can SLOWLY trim back or use sand paper to get them right for round boilies.
If you get nozzles that are pre-marked then just ignore the marks, once cut you can't undo it.
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