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OwenD
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OwenD
   Old Thread  #403 31 Aug 2014 at 11.06am  0  Login    Register
Does anyone know where to get poultry protein meal from? Can't find it on aa baits website.
Could it be replaced with something else?
I've found a meat a bone meal which has 44% protein and 13% oil
simplycarp
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simplycarp
   Old Thread  #402 13 Jun 2014 at 3.47pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #401
Yes. BM1 can be rolled for about £4 per including eggs etc if you shop around. Maybe less.
faygo123
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   Old Thread  #401 12 Jun 2014 at 8.14pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #77
Have you found that it is overall cheaper to make yourself 10kg of boils rather than buying from a company? Thoughts?
ulrikplate
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ulrikplate
   Old Thread  #400 19 May 2014 at 0.17am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #77
If you are having trouble with the bm1 being too soft for your particular application, I would recommend swapping the soya flour for rice flour or maize flour. This made the necessary difference in a basemix I have used for quite a few years to good effect. 2-3% blood powder seriously firms up the bait (I would think whey gel or blood plasma is comparable). Another simple trick is to sieve the mix for the hookbaits and boil those 30 secs longer than normal. Usually makes them a bit firmer for bit longer.


AdamJack
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AdamJack
   Old Thread  #399 20 Mar 2014 at 8.31am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #397
300g LT94 fishmeal
150g Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60)
130g Egg based bird food like CeDe
100g Semolina
100g Soya flour (heat treated)
85g pre-digested fishmeal
85g Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
25g selenavite e
10g GLM powder

CSL 50ml
CLO 25ml
8-9 eggs


does that about right?

AdamJack
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AdamJack
   Old Thread  #398 20 Mar 2014 at 8.24am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #395
like i said this is great help, and thanks for the discount code mate
WATERWOLF
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WATERWOLF
   Old Thread  #397 20 Mar 2014 at 8.22am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #396
so do 25g of GLM powder
how much CSL liquid should i put in?
and same with cod liver oil how much should i put in



with glm it depends on the depth of your pocket but i generally use 10 gms per kg
when i have used CSL i use it at 50 ml per kg
CLO i use at between 20 and 30 ml per kg

and.. would you suggest using flavoring or leave it with out?

peach and black pepper is a time honoured flavour combo
cranberry
tutti frutti
salmon
caviar
salmon / caviar
cranberry/ caviar
strawberry
cream
maple

the only flavours i use these days are nutrabaits and when it comes to flavour combos the worlds your oyster what ever flavour you go with stick with it . Its no good making a batch of bait 1 week with say strawberry and then next week make a batch with tutti
AdamJack
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AdamJack
   Old Thread  #396 20 Mar 2014 at 8.17am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #393
so do 25g of GLM powder
how much CSL liquid should i put in?
and same with cod liver oil how much should i put in?
MarkEmark
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   Old Thread  #395 20 Mar 2014 at 0.27am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #392
You can get Selenavite E from VetUK and if you use this code ORDER10 you get 10% off your first order.

They are the cheapest I have found.
nellieman
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nellieman
   Old Thread  #394 19 Mar 2014 at 11.44pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #393
Cod Liver Oil
nellieman
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nellieman
   Old Thread  #393 19 Mar 2014 at 11.35pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #392
Lars28 links to some places to buy selenavite e in post 161. To be honest I've not brought any in a while. You may be able to get it cheaper if you shop around now.

I would use GLM or garlic powder and betaine or csl powder. I would also include CSL liquid, and some cod liver oil.

As for flavours, you could use any you fancy. Even some flavours you may not think about will go in this recipe. Try some of the Elites from Nutrabaits. If you don't fancy experimenting with flavours on this base mix, just choose a good fishy one, or even an essential oil. Orange oil or Clove being two of my favourites.
AdamJack
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AdamJack
   Old Thread  #392 19 Mar 2014 at 11.06pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #391
cheers mate, really appreciate the help.
Just a few more questions and ill be on my way

what bait additive would you suggest??
The water i'm fishing get really weedy in the winter, and they love maize!

Also where can i get selenavite e from??

and.. would you suggest using flavoring or leave it with out?
nellieman
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nellieman
   Old Thread  #391 19 Mar 2014 at 5.22pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #390
Use selenavite e at 25g per kilo. this will leave you 25g for an additive of your choice.

300g LT94 fishmeal
150g Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60)
130g Egg based bird food like CeDe
100g Semolina
100g Soya flour (heat treated)
85g pre-digested fishmeal
85g Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
25g selenavite e
25g additive of your choice.


AdamJack
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AdamJack
   Old Thread  #390 18 Mar 2014 at 10.58pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #77
hi, what is smurfs mix in grams to make 1kg??

BM1 (basic HNV mix)
30% LT94 fishmeal
15% Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60)
13% Egg based bird food like CeDe
10% Semolina
10% Soya flour (heat treated)
8.5% pre-digested fishmeal
8.5% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
5% Equivite


Also should i use Equivite or Selenavite??

smokeymatt
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smokeymatt
   Old Thread  #389 17 Mar 2014 at 10.05am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #387
Supergold 60 is maize protein. If you scroll through this thread you will find a mix I have posted. Try that as it rolls a dream and very nutritious etc. It is a fish meal but will blend with a fruit flavour such as Essential baits shellfish plum and fruit factor 6 combo. If you decide to include per digested then whatever weight you include then remove that weight from the lt94.
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