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Is Carp Fishing Under Threat
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nickyp

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#42 15 Jul 2026 at 3.44pm

In reply to Post #1
In my personal opinion carp fishing in the UK is garbage nowadays. There's several reasons for this, and they fall into three categories.

Anglers

Too many anglers fishing for carp
Too many inexperienced anglers (instant carpers)
No etiquette
Everyone wanting to be the next TH

Lake owners

Only care about profits
Ridiculous amount of rules
Zero knowledge on how to run a lake properly
Not qualified to run a lake
No knowledge of fish welfare
Overpriced syndicates that are just glorified day tickets but charge syndicate prices

Industry

No innovation
Constant cycle of pointless products
Cheaply made products from China
Never give back to the industry
See anglers as a "cash cow"
UK companies stealing other companies designs (Fox)

You could also throw in predation issues, poaching, rise in fish diseases, useless governing body (EA), pollution issues

I gave up UK fishing 10 years ago to focus on my European angling and from experience I can say its head and shoulders above the UK scene now. Not only is the standard of angling at a good level, or in some cases better, but so are their waters, and the way they are run, both from a private and public lake perspective. If I do fish private waters abroad then I go out of my way to make sure I pick one that isn't owned by English people. The rivers/canals abroad are much better than here too. Don't get me wrong, they have their own problems but compared to the UK, it's night and day.

As I said this is just my personal opinion from my own experiences and I understand many people may feel differently to me and that's absolutely fine. I voted with my feet and left the UK scene for others to enjoy, rather than continue to go and being one of those miserable buggers who just complains the entire time. Each to their own.

Hitman

Posts: 9134

#41 15 Jul 2026 at 10.58am

In reply to Post #40
Repairs to swims etc etc go for it 😀😀

jhhilton1983

Posts: 1913

#40 15 Jul 2026 at 10.54am

In reply to Post #39
Hang on a minute.... So if I'm a self employed trades man, Chippy for example, and i add to my business name Joiner and Pro angler. Then i could claim back the cost of my tickets as a business expense?

Smudge79

Posts: 2736

#39 15 Jul 2026 at 7.35am

I watched a video recently where an well known angler mentioned he had loads of tickets, most of which he didn't fish but they were paid for (or an amount claimed back) as it was classed as an expense of his job. Which I'm guessing is some type of self employed media person.

It made me wonder how many others are also doing similar to various extents

inzenity

Posts: 466

#38 14 Jul 2026 at 10.28pm

I think it's even worse. So yes, you have an army of retarded anglers nowadays, as has been pointed out in this thread, and then you have a cultural change in the broader sense relating to man's relation to nature, from the club of rome to today's greenies, the culling of commercial fishing etc etc. So all in all, i'm kinda suprised carp angling isn't on the chopping block already.

scozza

Posts: 18372

#37 14 Jul 2026 at 10.54am

In its simplest form it is fishing, a relaxing pastime. Flip side it has been saturated and done to death by people trying to make a living from it or seeking 5 minutes of fame. For me its had its legs kicked from underneath it, the very thing that made it special to everyone and that is purely down to greed, fame and fortune.

Unplug social media, get rid of all the noise and crack on. The more i see how things are going the more i think publicity bans are the right thing for the future of carp angling, it then comes down to people doing the right things for the right reasons, nothing else!

Hitman

Posts: 9134

#36 14 Jul 2026 at 10.51am

It’s all gone a bit Hollywood

Me me me and 💶💶💶💶💶

I don’t tend to watch to many fishing vids on YouTube but the last few I have seen have been over dramatised, the said angler always seems to catch the biggest fish on the last night/hour of a weeks long session ????

Defiant.one

Posts: 4342

#35 14 Jul 2026 at 9.29am

In reply to Post #34
Your right, I’ve also come to the conclusion of late that “The biggest threat to Carp Fishing is Carp Anglers!”

It all seems to have lost its way of late, it’s hard to put your finger on a specific thing , it seems to be a combination of lots of little things adding to one hell of a mess developing.

Loads of people I chat to are saying the same thing, from all over the place.

RKB

Posts: 1711

#34 14 Jul 2026 at 8.12am

In reply to Post #33
About 95% of the carp fishing fraternity simply don't care. Most of the industry are just in it for the £££'s, and a substantial number of the so called "anglers" just want to stick a hook in the biggish fish possible in the easiest way possible, haul it in, get pics on the socials then have 10 cans of Stella. They're not going to push back against anything; they'll be golfing next.

My hope is that for as long as I am able to get outdoors and cleanse the soul a bit, the situation won't have changed too dramatically - but the crunch point will come eventually.

wandle1

Posts: 7456

#33 12 Jul 2026 at 6.53pm

Is carp angling under threat ?

Yes it is...here are a couple of examples ,firstly as soon as the last vestiges of hunting has gon e ,that's trail hunting, then angling in all of its present forms will be under further,and more intense scrutiny

Carp angling ,I believe will self implode ,due to the cost of it,it's now getting silly money,of which I'm one of several people known to myself who will not pay extortionate day or season tickets ,including those apps...

Then we have looneys who marry a river and give it some sort of 'living rights',don't forget the tourism issue,which take over,urbanise,and gentryfy formerly lovely lakes..and of course open water swimming ,that's just some of the threats ..

I've said it before,angling needs to up its game ,proper courses for aspiring or potential anglers of the future,because having a unhooking mat or the now potentially inadequate carp care liquids are not going to cut it in the future..

55s

Posts: 674

#32 11 Jul 2026 at 8.40am

In reply to Post #31
Spot on for me. I haven’t watched the video (showing my age) but from everything I have seen OMC and Ali come across as desperate to get market share and have become a hybrid of Badger Tackle and Korda and made a complete mess of it.

The threats you mention are real to me and the more we move Caro fishing from hobby and relaxation into likes and sm content the worse the problem will get, every year we lose real angling advocates and replace them with screaming knobs with mohicans and baseball cap wearing inner city ‘warriors’

We should be worried that come any revolution we no longer have an army of educated evangalists, like Paisley, Ball, Clifford etc etc. that weren’t so busy bleeding the industry dry and could argue from a non commercial standpoint.

Everyone is to busy gambling their last fiver with Pritchers to win a set of basiiairs than worry about an otter fence or pollution- why don’t they run a draw for a £20k study on the state of our rivers instead of a camo transit- see how many tickets they sell.

I know I sound old and grumpy but we all let this happen - one of the most common rules now is that you have to clear litter in a swim even if it’s not your rubbish - we used to do that anyway, who ever wants to fish with crap around them?

It’s a shame embryo had to start but Danny I believe was ahead of the curve, to stop people buying up waters not to preserve angling but as a commercial opportunity.

I think there’s enough years left for me to see out fishing how I want to and the people I see entering our sport will probably get what they deserve, if youre only in it for likes and sponsorship don’t be surprised when the well is dry.

smellyfisherman

Posts: 1231

#31 6 Jul 2026 at 5.21pm

I would argue that angling is at threat in the UK, but not for any of the reasons mentioned in the video.

No discussion at all about the extremes of temperatures with its effect on water tables and then the presumed increase in water borne viruses such as KHV, the moves against shooting in the UK that seem to put angling in line next for pressure from lobby groups, predation, water quality and pollution, invasive species the list goes on.

In contrast, stop the media machine from communicating on a direct line to the masses of impressionable kids and they start dooming over it and calling on the industry to come together.

If any one of those people had been vocal or active about any other perceived threat to our love and hobby - before one that affects their businesses - I would love to know!

The only company backed action I can say i have witnessed is Embryo yet Ali sees fit to call Danny out in public...

framey

Posts: 5273

#30 6 Jul 2026 at 2.36pm

In reply to Post #29
I’m sure in one of the last podcast Danny said embryo owed him around 8 million.
He’s never going to call the debt in and going to leave it as a trust when he breathes his last.

OyrbmeAngler

Posts: 5

#29 6 Jul 2026 at 1.51pm

In reply to Post #28
Ahh right. Well it certainly isn't a tax dodging scheme. Even if it was, why would someone invest so much money into something they will never see a return on?

Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The sad reality is that people will believe what they choose to believe.

VLT

Posts: 8986

#28 6 Jul 2026 at 11.13am

In reply to Post #27
I think he's suggesting that Embryo was set up as a loss making company to offset profits from Korda such that korda avoid paying a lot of corporation tax. I don't know enough to comment but even if it was, then it's a very noble way of avoiding tax and I would not criticise Danny or Korda in the slightest.


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