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whataclonker
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whataclonker
   Old Thread  #48 28 Mar 2025 at 8.22am  0  Login    Register
For anyone who doesn't like to use lead or wants to try something different, I've been using Zinkers leads recently. Athough they don't seem to be widely available, my local store stocks them. They're cheap & really well made. Finished in a nice brown colour that blends in with most beds.

I've also started using Dinsmores Arseley bombs for my chods. Ideal shape for fishing in weed & again cheap as chips, well made & come in smaller sizes. Also available in camo.

I only use a maximum of 2oz for 99% of my fishing, so the slightly larger size isn't an issue for me.

I don't like being ripped off for end tackle. The vast majority of it is ridiculously over priced!
RKB
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   Old Thread  #47 28 Mar 2025 at 6.50am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #43
That’s true actually. People moan incessantly about lining the coffers at Korda.

Me personally, most of the time I have an inline dropoff set up on the end. One of the lakes I fish is very weedy, the lead needs to come off, full stop.

Didn’t Palatrax do similar with barbed hooks given they also flog an alternative?
Hitman
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Hitman
   Old Thread  #46 28 Mar 2025 at 6.19am  0  Login    Register
I said in a previous post a few years ago about this

Some canals/stretches the sides are lined with asbestos sheets and as most people will know if it’s not disturbed broken up and air borne then it’s to some extent ok

So why don’t mr palatrax (tool head )get off his high horse and complain about this ?

Well he can’t make weights out of asbestos can he
55s
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55s
   Old Thread  #45 27 Mar 2025 at 11.49pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #44
Deffo my 1st born.
If you’d have gone one of those oriental ducks and child 2 well there’s a debate to be had. That’s the problem with the internet no specific’s.
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #44 27 Mar 2025 at 5.27pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #41


Tufted ducks & coots. Your eldest.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #43 27 Mar 2025 at 5.03pm  0  Login    Register
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I bought this practice to the attention of ECHA and they were, rightly so, horrified that such a reckless act was being promoted by the industry.

Fek me, genius, how many have “moaned” on about it on here before only for the clowns to say it’s fine because it suits my fishing and the muppets cashing in on it and driving it £
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #42 27 Mar 2025 at 3.23pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #35
They're already out there in smaller sizes, I have some for drop shotting, and yes they are more expensive
55s
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55s
   Old Thread  #41 27 Mar 2025 at 3.21pm  4  Login    Register
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Are the ducks more important than your own children?

What sort of ducks are you talking about and which one of my two kids?
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #40 27 Mar 2025 at 1.47pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #38
I just read all of the comments. Good, he's getting ripped to bits and people can clearly see through his absolute waffle.

After people with knowledge are telling him that lead is insoluble and asking him for raised lead levels in the water, he then starts banging on about home lead makers are the problem and children will get sick from it. Changes his story like the wind!

The bloke is an absolute waste of space. I've always looked from afar and thought similar. But today has really drove it home. He is getting dangerous now though and will bring lots of trouble to carp fishing with his new 'informer' mantra. He is playing a dangerous game for all of us.

If you need to FORCE people to buy your products, you can't cut the mustard. He does not seem to be able to accept this though. So now we get all this.
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #39 27 Mar 2025 at 1.30pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #38
Good man!

He has the patent on the stone weights too?

This just gets worse and worse
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #38 27 Mar 2025 at 1.22pm  2  Login    Register
He posted a thread on the Institute of Fishery Management group on fb,

I replied...
Simon Pomeroy whilst you appear to be the guardian of our welfare, you are also a major beneficiary of any lead ban, and as you have a patent on the stone weight your constant pushing for a lead ban smacks of self promotion.
Any evidence from actual water samples that show an elevated lead level in lakes that have been heavily carp fished?

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TCarper
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   Old Thread  #37 27 Mar 2025 at 1.02pm  2  Login    Register
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Quote.... yet air rifle pellets to this day are primarily still little lead projectiles that can be digested by the countrysides wildlife.

What you said there kind of proves the point so well. That's dangerous. Yet no one cares. Our 3 or 4oz lead weights are not dangerous. Every lake in the UK has loads of leads on the bottom. Is it stopping weed from growing? Is it killing wildlife? Is it holding back fish weights in Rainbow? What are the negatives after 60-70 years of lead being used as fishing weights in UK waters? Like your air rifle statement and the lead pipe drinking water analogy, there are many instances of lead being used in far worse ways than our fishing weights.

Is this someone from PETA or the like coming forwards with this? No it''s a poxy carp angler with a business, who has a vested interest in lead weights being banned. But he is playing with fire by running his mouth off to the authorities. He will bring much unneeded attention on us. What for? So he can corner the market on Stonez inside his head I'd imagine.

It's this part of the statement below which angered me. He is talking about EVERY carp fisherman in the country in that snippet below. We all use lead weights. We all have used lead clips and dropped a lead when needed. That below sounds like the school playground grass, and he seems really happy with himself about it. What a saint among carpers he is.... Ever ejected a lead to save a fish having its face ripped off in weed? He says that you're reckless if you have.

"I am also very happy to see that the recommendation in regards to purposefully ejectioning leads will be banned from 6 months of the legislation being enacted. I bought this practice to the attention of ECHA and they were, rightly so, horrified that such a reckless act was being promoted by the industry"
Ged
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   Old Thread  #36 27 Mar 2025 at 12.41pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #32
The weight of an object in water is its weight in air minus the weight of water it dissplaces.
A 100g lead weight in water would weigh about 91.2g
A 100g weight with a SG of 3.0 would weigh about 66.67g in water
For a weight with a SG of 3.0 to weigh 100g in water it would have to weigh 150g in air.

ETA
The volume of this weight would be 50 cm3, compared to less than 9 cm3 for a lead weight.
Tinhead
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Tinhead
   Old Thread  #35 27 Mar 2025 at 12.38pm  0  Login    Register
Just been googling and found that tungsten is 1.7 times heavier than lead, that surprised me.

Tungsten is 30% more expensive than lead and it's melting point is much higher so inevitably tungsten is going to be more expensive.

So a move over to tungsten is possible, it's just the cost.
RKB
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   Old Thread  #34 27 Mar 2025 at 12.33pm  0  Login    Register
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