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In reply to Post #8 Cheers! That came up when I had a Google. I've ordered my first 4 from AnglingIron. Without pre drilled holes I went for. Then I'll have to decide what to soak them in. Maybe some CC Moore liquid, or more likely I'll get some to match my boilies from Blakes Baits, if that will work.
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In reply to Post #8 Yeah there's few rules on this place so could try tigers. I don't even think the club knows how many Carp are in there, so it's just basic club rules. The website states the biggest fish is a 20lb Common with the disclaimer that "Bigger have been seen".
Well I haven't seen one yet. Not even a picture. And nobody will tell me anything! Except the chap who told me off when Tench fishing, who said there's "Bigger than 20s in there".
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Are you allowed to use tigernuts for hook baits? I've used them with crays around and not been bothered at all.
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In reply to Post #6 Thank you. I'll have a look for some wooden balls to get soaking.
The way I've been doing it so far is using my bait boat to recast every hour! Wooden balls sounds like I could leave in with confidence for longer/overnight.
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Wooden balls
You can drill them out or get ones with holes in already,resin in either a swivel or what you prefer.
Soak them for at least a week before using them
Tho to make sure they sink
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In reply to Post #3 It amazes me too!
In my Carp fishing I've tried to work up to places like this so I can get a small amount of Carp fishing experience first as I ain't in the business of making too many mistakes.
It's a quiet club lake and not many fish it. I've only ever seen one Carp angler there down the shallow end the first time I walked round. He told me he was only fishing it because he couldn't get on his syndicate, and was moaning about the Crayfish.
I did see one other Carp angler there, he was just walking around when I was Tench fishing with 2 rods on method feeders. He told me off for having too small a landing net. A 28" pan net for Tench if I remember right, and I had 4 Tench as it got dark.
I've been building up to it. I was fishing it on waggler and maggot in January and having 30 to 50lb of Roach and Perch, even with snow on the ground one session.
Still my coarse fishing experience greatly outweighs my Carp fishing, not everyone appreciates that. That it's a quiet club lake, with some level of difficulty appeals to me, as I can fish in relative peace.
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In reply to Post #2 Cheers. Lots to work with there. I will look into getting some Armamesh.
For the meantime I'm using a Turbo German rig with a bait screw on the clear spots to start with. It's what I use most of the time just because it's simple for a beginner. Would love to be able to use a Chod rig over the Silkweed but worry about the pop up.
For the meantime I think I'll look into a some heli leaders.
First few times I've used pellets and boilies, as also tons of Roach in there, so will consider some kind of particle too.
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In reply to Post #1 How are you managing to fish these amazing sounding lakes with barely a clue about what you're doing is fascinating to me. No offence intended.
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In reply to Post #1 So, I fished crayfish infected waters before, a proper pain in the butt. But there are things to help you:
1. Use Armamesh on your hard hookbaits. And if they're getting through that, get a pair of the Mrs tights, wrap them in that first, tie it off with bait floss, and blob. But be careful not to burn the tights around your bait. Then put Armamesh over that.
2. Don't use rig tubing, they love that. Use leaders.
3. If you're using a hair rig with a loop, use them V shaped boilie stops, the ones with the biggest V you can get away with.
4. Use particle if you can get away with it for loose feed. They'll eat all free offerings if they're boilies. Whereas they won't with small particles like hemp or pigeon conditioner. If you have to use boilies for your freebies, get them from somewhere that will slightly customise their bait by making them harder. That'll slow the buggers down a bit.
5. If you're using a rig that uses a weight like putty, use a shot. But pinch it on really tight with a pair of pliers.
6. Recast regularly to check and replace your hookbaits if necessary.
7. Zigs can avoid them, depending on the depth.
8. Glug your hookbaits, that should make them even harder.
9. Use artificial hookbaits. But they can nibble at these too.
10. Put your bobbins up to your rod, otherwise you'll be getting beeps of your alarms all of the time with your bobbins going up and down!!
Have fun and good luck.
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I think I've picked a challenging water to start getting deeper into Carp fishing on, not only is the stock completely unknown on this estate lake, it's also infested with Crayfish.
I've had a search and seen discussion about crays before.
I've only had 2 or 3 sessions on the lake so far.
First time I fished a ESP Tungsten Coated Braid German rig, didn't realise they like Tungsten. They were twizzling up my rig into a right mess! Lesson learned.
So the next 2 times I've gone back with a hardened hookbait tipped with fake corn on a basic IQ2 Turbo German rig.
First time was in deeper siltier water and the hardened baits were still getting chewed. Second time was earlier this Spring and I went up the shallow end... had to find a clear spot as didn't realise there was Silkweed up this end and the baits remained untouched.
Am I right in thinking they don't like Silkweed? If so I'll be able to fish the shallow end with more confidence over the next couple of months, but to be honest, feels like I'm winging it.
I'd be amazed if I catch a fish from this water... lots of small Roach in there, as well as a few Tench (and loads massive Perch).
Any tips for rigs/baiting/other things from the info I've given... unknown stock 8 acre estate lake? So far I've had one shortlived dropped run as I was packing away at dusk, think it may have been a Tench but who knows.
Some might say fish a different water but beggars can't be choosers.
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