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phil090781
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   Old Thread  #13 16 Mar 2026 at 3.37pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
Could well be, although I’m absolutely bombing them in at times, if I’m fishing long and don’t hit the clip, and even then the top bead doesn’t budge. Perhaps the type of bead makes a difference too? I use the safety type bead with the tapered sleeve and the c shape bead. They seem to hold well.
MrNuvawun
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MrNuvawun
   Old Thread  #12 16 Mar 2026 at 2.52pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #11
I can’t get away with using anything smaller than a 20mm single hookbait on the lake I fish I’m afraid, the bream and roach just don’t allow it. Maybe it’s the drag on the bigger hookbaits on impact with the water that I’ve always struggled with? Sometimes during the warmer months, when they can be increasingly problematic, the only way to slow them down to an acceptable level is with double 24’s!
phil090781
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   Old Thread  #11 15 Mar 2026 at 6.04pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
I fish helicopter rigs at ditance with 15mm pop ups on long hinges and have never had a top bead move, ever.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #10 15 Mar 2026 at 5.37pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Pva bag and crosswinds don't mix well. You'll be up against it to keep accurate
MrNuvawun
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MrNuvawun
   Old Thread  #9 15 Mar 2026 at 1.25pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
How are you casting a bag on a helicopter without the impact causing the top bead to dislodge and potentially end up with the hooklink miles from the lead, hindering indication? Are you somehow putting the lead in the bag with the hooklink? I struggle to get the top bead to stay put casting a single hookbait lol
I flirt with helicopters from time to time, but always come to the same conclusion and revert to leadclips or running leads lol.
badger_1
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badger_1
   Old Thread  #8 15 Mar 2026 at 12.05pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #7
Thanks Andy
AndyClark
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AndyClark
   Old Thread  #7 15 Mar 2026 at 11.41am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #6
.35 is around 15lb and would be fine with a 3.5 oz lead without a shock leader for 80yds
badger_1
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badger_1
   Old Thread  #6 15 Mar 2026 at 11.22am  0  Login    Register
Would 0.35 be an 18lb line? My reel is a Sonik SK47 which I believe is a 7000 size.
Would I be able to cast a 3.5oz lead that distance from the 0.35 line without the need for a shock leader?
AndyClark
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AndyClark
   Old Thread  #5 15 Mar 2026 at 11.18am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #4
witht that diameter line you don t really want to be going more than a 3.0z lead, .35 for a 3.5oz lead is what id be looking at
badger_1
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badger_1
   Old Thread  #4 15 Mar 2026 at 11.16am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #3
I've got 15lb subsonik which I think is 0.31 and have tried a 3 Oz distance lead and struggled to get to the clip in the cross wind
0nslow
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0nslow
   Old Thread  #3 15 Mar 2026 at 10.46am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
What line and lead you using now.

What casting technique do you use now.
andy2461
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andy2461
   Old Thread  #2 15 Mar 2026 at 10.37am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
3oz lead will get you there
badger_1
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badger_1
   Old Thread  #1 15 Mar 2026 at 10.19am  0  Login    Register
Help me set this rod up please.

Rod is 12' 3.25 t/c. I want to cast a helicopter rig 80 yards with a German rig and small PVA mesh bag attached.

There is usually a strong cross wind on the lake and I want to hit the clip every time without struggling.

What size lead should I use and what diameter line?

Thanks
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