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In reply to Post #22
Can't really get me head around these tubing rules. Fish safety or some ********. ( like most rules to be honest ) 
I'd never use the chod with tubing. It wouldn't look or feel right to me. It's naked or leader for me. Might as well ban the chod if that's the case. 
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Fished a lake with a tubing compulsory rule, as someone who usually uses naked chods a lot, I tried everything to make chods work on tubing. It doesn't matter what you do, it will look/feel like a compromise. They just don't ever sit right IMO.
The best option i came up with was using the minimum length of tubing, setting the top bead up the mainline. But this isn't really in the spirit of the rules, and it comes with it's own set of new problems.
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In reply to Post #19
Embrace the Nakedness Fella, it's liberating. Lifes to short...  
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In reply to Post #1
I fished a lake fifteen years ago where I had the same problem.
Here's how I solved it.
Top bead carefully chosen so that it could slip of the tubing with minimal pressure.
Bottom bead glued to the tubing six inches above the lead.
Two layers of shrink tube, shrunk over the end of tungsten tubing and a slightly wider swivel than you are going to use.
Slip the shrink tubing off the end of the tungsten, apply a little glue and slip it back on.
Remove the swivel and pierce a hole through the shrink tube.
Assemble the rig on your line and pull the shrink tube over the lead swivel (or clip).
Now push a tiny bit of Bristle Filament through the holes in the shrink tubing, making sure that it passes through the eye of the swivel (or clip) and blob the ends of filament.
It sounds like a whole load of faff, but I found it the best way to ensure that the tubing didn't slid up away from the lead once a fish was on.
Once made these are reusable. Simply snip the filament to remove.
I'm sure there are much easier ways to achieve this nowadays?
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In reply to Post #18
I call it being efficient that 17 hours it takes to thread the tubing could cost me fish!
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In reply to Post #17
Seems a bit extreme. Dont crack off.. 
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In reply to Post #16
🤣🤣 I'm buying a second set of rods so I can keep the tubing on without having to change it all the time if I want to change rigs.
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If rules dictate you have to use tubing with chods. I'd use as small a length as I could get away with down by the lead. And then have a sliding bead just sitting on the top of the tubing. Just enough for the chod to but up against. The idea being that under tension the bead will slid down to the lead..there is no way I'd even contemplate threading 3ft plus of tubing.. it's giving me Anxiety thinking about it.. 
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In reply to Post #14
Good luck, there's defo a knack and some patience required.
On a side note about tubing, I got a mix of fox and esp and the esp is by far the better tubing!
And yes I can see what you're saying about the weed on the beads, I've fished twice with it and it hasn't been a problem, I think because they're smooth, and also they're no trace beads so come off easily.
I think I've sussed it now with a mix of components, someone needs to bring out a kit for it though because a gap in the market it seems.
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In reply to Post #13
Wouldn’t the weed just clump to the beads and start of the tubing too? Unless you used a tapered sleeve on the tubing where the mainline is.
Alternative option, use a naked chod, you’re looking at dropping the lead anyway if it gets weeded up, then use a short length of tubing in the same fashion as the Leader was described, this would mean you need to use a drop off bottom bead, the swivel would then run over on to the tubing. Or alternatively shrink tubing?
I’m about to trial chods on tubing using all fox products at the end of the month due to a must have tubing rule. Can’t wait to thread a long length of tubing on to mono 😂 wish me luck!
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In reply to Post #10
That would work yes but wouldn't be allowed because technically a leader. The reason they're not allowed is because the type of weed there literally just clumps onto every knot and causes leaders to become dangerous.
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In reply to Post #11
No idea who he is. I will look him up after the footy.
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In reply to Post #10
I believe Luke Stevenson uses a similar method with his naked chods.
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I very rarely fish a heli but a certain venue made it necessary.
To keep things simple i went straight through with the 18lb synchro, but was worried about mainline wear with the hooklength swivel.
I came up with a solution of about 8" of leadcore with the lead removed on the end of the main line. This allows the swivel to slide down towards the lead and safely rest on the lead core.
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In reply to Post #8
Dovey was saying on a recent podcast that he was using naked chods on 10lb Daiwa Sensor in the past... But just because it's possible, doesn't necessarily mean it's the best choice..
I would spool up with fluoro personally if you were planning on going naked. IMO the extra durability & properties that fluoro has lends itself to chods & snaggy environments. Probably less of a headache in the long run too..
I use & rate Kontour if your interested.
EDIT: I've just realised that I confused this thread with the "chods over heavy weed" thread, so I've edited my post appropriately.
I'll get my coat, & then probably shoot myself..
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In reply to Post #7
I don't like the idea that the strain is directly on mono though that's the reason I don't like it, what's others opinions on that? I know fluoro is better in that respect.
I did manage to put some chods together on tubing after ordering that Heli kit someone posted and then using some thinking anglers chod buffer which fit over the tubing and hold it on place lovely!
But yes it took me about 30 mins to thread them through 🤣 and now I've done it I don't want to take them off 🤣
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In reply to Post #1
There's a few company's out there doing tubing helicopter kits or bits to make them up. I've used nash tungsten heli beads for tubing for helicopter rigs. Dont know if they still make them?
You must be planning on using a lot of tubing. Sod threading that
Bad enough with 18 inchs
To behonest if I was you. And couldn't use leaders, I'd go naked..
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In reply to Post #3
"Kind of what I want but is that just for use with heli safes as I won't be using them"
Helisafes come with a collar so you can lock it in position to prevent the lead from dropping.
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In reply to Post #4
Good idea thanks
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In reply to Post #3
Haven’t used it sorry
I did link to the wrong fox product
Could just cut/take the heli safe off and loop a ring or similar lead connector on and slide a normal sleeve on it as well
Only thing that may happen is the tube may slide up the line
Maybe use a lighter and flare the bottom end of the tubing to stop that happening.
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In reply to Post #2
Kind of what I want but is that just for use with heli safes as I won't be using them, suppose I could change the Heli buffer to something standard.
What size tubing is that do you know? To go over the tubing and fit nicely?
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Had a look on previous threads and can't seem to find what I'm asking.
Just started fishing a lake with a leader ban so I want to fish tungsten tubing with a chod on due to the weed.
I went in angling direct yesterday purely because they obviously have more stuff than a small local shop, and they didn't have the components to make such a rig, they had lots of tubing but nothing that would fit over it well to secure the beads to the tubing. Is there such a brand that does the whole kit? I'm probably being thick but I only ever really use leadcore for a chod.
I could fish naked chods bit there's lots of rocks and not isre I feel like mainline straight through on a chod is that strong?
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