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In reply to Post #73
What i cant get my head around is when the person selling says unwanted item won on a comp.
Why buy a ticket for that item in the first place.
Why not, I saw the options..if you're the gambling type what are you going to take chance on?
£2000 of reels or 10kg of pellets or boilies?
If I was prepared to drop a fiver on the chance of some TXis and another fiver on some Tech-mags I'd probably take the TXis as an upgrade to my 20+year old V1s
But there is zero chance that my rods would be sporting 2 grands worth of reels at the weekend 
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I think that "unwanted raffle prize" is a great way to stop you asking why they are selling brand new gear. Stolen likely is my guess. Organised theft of brand new fishing tackle must happen, kaizen greens would be the perfect product to target. That's my conspiracy.
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In reply to Post #73
I would imagine many of the people doing these raffles for lower ticket items aren't financially stable. Probably realise 2 weeks later they could do with cash.
Without sounding like a complete snob, I wouldn't enter a raffle for a set of budget range rods.
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What i cant get my head around is when the person selling says unwanted item won on a comp.
Why buy a ticket for that item in the first place.
I have has a little dabble on the comp site purely for sport and I’m taking 20-30 quid over a few weeks, won nothing haven’t bothered since.
But i only bought tickets from items i would use ( not want as if i needed some new reels say, i am in the fortunate position i can just buy them) I understand not everyone is in this position and I wasn’t in my younger years, now I’m older mortgage paid off, few promotions in work etc, I’m a little more financially secure, however I wouldn’t buy tickets for kaizen 4lb rods as i dont want them or wouldn’t use them, but might buy a ticket for some Basia reels, dont need them and wouldn’t pay RRP as reels for £200 each do me fine, but I would like a set, for a punt of £20’s worth of tickets to me its a bit of fun and a raffle.
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In reply to Post #71
That's what I like about the tacklebox they will sell you what you need, not push you towards what is most profitable for them.
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In reply to Post #51
I’m not surprised to hear this.
Kev and Gary have always been clear on their pricing. Not the cheapest, but quality service when you buy, and after purchase.
If that’s not what someone wants then they suggest they take their chances elsewhere.
Back in the day I viewed their prices as being “pay a couple of quid more and get 20 minutes free consultancy and advice from Lee Jackson”, which seemed like a bargain, especially when he advised me what not to buy.
I’m glad to hear that they have stuck to their guns when it comes to raffle sites 
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In reply to Post #68
People seem to think they're owed a slice of the luck.
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In reply to Post #67
Wouldn’t bother
It’s yesterdays news now lol
As long as I’m not imagining it that’s all that matters to me 
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In reply to Post #66
Yeah I've seen it with people selling cars, thinking that because the person won it, it now must have less value. It's a way of thinking i just can't get my head around.
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In reply to Post #66
You sound like me as of late
I remember it mate, can't remember how long ago it was though or what, might have a look if I get bored 
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In reply to Post #65
As I said earlier
I really wish I could find it
A guy got torn a new one for trying to sell some gear on here that he won.
Someone else must remember it…
My view is sell it for whatever you want
Someone will buy it or they won’t
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In reply to Post #62
So the question is
What price should these competition winners be selling for
What does the way someone's acquired something make any difference? Would you expect a rich person to charge a different amount than someone who is poor? Or a person with generational welath to charge something different that someone who got their money to buy it from working?
The bulk of people aren't winning a set of kaizen greens for 99p. They spend hundreds if not thousands of pounds on tickets. I used to play the raffle my friend did, £10 here or there, I was convinced I had spend a couple hundred quid over a few years, but when I looked though my history, it was an order of magnitude more money than I had realised I had wasted. I did win £1k once, and I would not have been selling that for £750.
Tackle retailers aren't the poor innocent guy here, they also push preditory buy now pay later
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In reply to Post #59
So the question is
What price should these competition winners be selling for??
if it's something that people will pay top dollar .I wouldn't ask for s/h forum prices
I'd hope for at least 75%of the lowest advertised price for a brand new item,
For example a set of Shimano 14K MGSGMSXTs; 2/3 is nothing to be sneezed at and whoever pays that should be happy enough.
I wouldn't,... you wouldn't give them away just to keep the knockers happy.
Years ago I won three Century FS rods on Century's own short lived forum, I think there was under 20 entries.
I used them three times, didn't really get on with them and ker-ching 75% of retail.
Which was spent on different Centrury rods 
Should I have punted them out for £300 because it was a free comp?
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In reply to Post #62
My view is the same as yours
If it’s a price I think is fair for an item I want then I would buy it if not walk away.
Same for a tackle shop
I’m happy going to a shop that charges top dollar because I’m getting good customer service and any problem I can get it sorted.
I also don t walk into any shop and say I can get it cheaper on line.
How many times on here do people moan about shops like TF,AD or FR
And How many moan about shops like JR or TB ?
I hate having to go shopping on line and the way it’s going we won’t have shops left soon it will all come from storage units via a bloody robot or chucked over a fence.
Maybe I’m just getting old ?
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In reply to Post #59
So the question is
What price should these competition winners be selling for
Answer : whatever they want. It’s not another’s individuals right to dictate price of someone else’s for sale items. If however they have a problem with such sales then they can ignore it. Like it or not it’s one of the fundamentals of our society.
It’s probably not the most popular view but the most just. Such an old fashioned word which shaped our society.
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It's not just fresh water market though, one of the biggest shops in the sea fishing market started doing it last year. Another problem is the three months interest free credit encourages people useless with their finances to buy what they really can't afford as I know someone who bought three rods at £1500 on three months interest free only to be made redundant two weeks later and sold them on used once for a grand so he could pay the mortgage.
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In reply to Post #59
So the question is
What price should these competition winners be selling for??
For me it's whatever they want to sell it for as it has nothing to do with anyone else.
I'm personally a bit of a softy so I'd pass some of the luck on, I wouldn't want anything near RRP, but I also wouldn't give them away as they're just as likely to be sold on at a bigger price.
Selling things on Ebay I have little time anymore for the silly offers you get from timewasters.
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In reply to Post #57
That begs a different question
I remember on here ( I think) a guy won a rod or a set of rods in some competition and he tried to sell them through the classifieds
He got torn a new one because of the price he was trying to sell them for
Some were saying he should only be selling for the price he paid in the competition.it could have even been one of those like share and tag type I can’t remember exact specifics anymore…
Could have been about the same sort of time as the big rig fiasco. (Just googled 2016 !! )
So the question is
What price should these competition winners be selling for??
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In reply to Post #57
Totally correct Neil, I think over the last 3 or 4 years used tackle has gone up drastically.
Reels I brought 3 years ago were the same price as 6 or 7 years ago, now they are twice the price.
Most of my gear is pre-loved  apart from sleeping bags and line
Most gear i get new is from local tackle shop and occasionaly online via Glasgow Angling Centre for specific hooks.
Fortunately I have amassed quite a supply of end tackle over the years from the classifieds I have been giving it away to worthy causes
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Don’t forget the original title was the ‘Price of second hand tackle’ not the price of unwanted prizes.
Firstly I’m one of the oddballs on here nowadays. I’m old by comparison, 70 this year. I make tackle, I modify tackle to my personal needs, I buy used tackle to use as an upgrade, rarely buying new gear. I have a good income, now retired, but appreciate I can spend £100’s rather than £1,000 on tackle per year. And yes I admit I can be a Tart when it comes to tackle.
I’ve had Shimmy Tech 10000 XT’s, original Basia’s, original Armalites, Nash Amorphous, Nash Titans, Aqua Domes over the years when they were cutting edge. Ditto , Armadillo’s M3’s etc. Enough Solar gear to fill a stainless Steel landfill site and that’s before we get going on carbon fibre. I can remember when you could physically pick up a Bedchair with one hand without a coronary episode.
I move within the 2nd market often, buying bits which enhance my fishing experience, buying at good used prices and discarding other gear which I have used and cared for. I’m careful with my gear but it is used for fishing and my selling price reflects this. However, as of late the 2nd hand market generally has surged upwards, not the ‘unwanted prizes’ but genuinely used gear. Another instance is the description of scabby tackle as ‘mint’….. total piss take.
Not including unwanted prizes and the problems thereof, Yes, the used tackle, pre loved, used or 2nd hand, whichever you wish to call it is getting a bit above itself in prices and expectations.
Sign of the times? I don’t know but there has been a shift in the last couple of years.
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I've never seen the words "unwanted prize" as much as I do now. Why buy it if you did not want it in the first place? Profiteering. People with no disposable taking a £1 punt on a £400 set of rods. If enough people do that, the shops suffer.
This is a buyers market now. Smaller shops will suffer, which will lead to the day when AD and their empty shelves rule the roost.
We are our own downfall. We want good stock and good aftercare when things go wrong, but then wonder why we have to go direct to the manufacturer because we bought a set of rods from an online shop 200 miles away, expecting the same level of service.
You've only got to look at the conduct of FB Marketplace buyers to see that they can and will even undercut those in the second hand market. No-one gives a **** if you have the only set of penny whistle bobbins in the country, people still want them for nothing.
The bubble is well and truly gone, and that's thanks to those raffling caddys you cannot afford to run, and those, including myself, who want to buy a 19.99 item, but would rather make use of an algorithm on eBay and get it for 19.87 instead.
We're all guilty of it sadly.
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It's not just the comp sites. All of the big money comps on the radio stations are run under these same loopholes. 'A voluntary code of good practice'. Haha. It's often very big money involved. You have no way of knowing who won. You just have to 'trust' that everything is kosher & above board. This is why they ask the very stupid question that anyone can answer. Stops it being actual gambling by law currently. Stops any gambling legislation. You pay your £2.50 for the call. Enter as many times as you like to win a big cash prize. It's gambling. You only need to look at the McDonalds Monopoly competition where all the major prizes were snatched by the same person within the company to see human nature and what will happen when large value prizes are involved.
To open up a bookmakers you need a licence. It's very strict to get one. Any crack dealer or similar as it stands can set up a comp site on Faceache tomorrow, dictate his own odds, pick his own winners. You need no licence. No one is governing you. It's actually pretty mad that the powers that be are allowing all this to happen. It took them sooo long to ban the FOBT terminals which were the con of the last century.
They really need to lock down on these loopholes fast.
Anyway, thread back on track.... If the market gets flooded with gold tomorrow... Gold prices go down. If the market gets flooded with oil tomorrow... Oil prices go down. When the second hand tackle market is getting flooded with your brand new rods that just came out, or your brand new favourite high end alarms... The price goes down. RRP's will go down as well not long after. You are seeing sets of high end alarms for silly money now, brand new. Very suddenly so. Stuff that has ALWAYS held its money over decades. Not anymore. Because the market is getting flooded with certain items. Prices go down.
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In reply to Post #53
Good i hope it does and the sooner the better
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In reply to Post #52
It will get sorted out like you say. All of these sites operate under a 'voluntary code of good practice'. Voluntary.
They currently do not come under the gambling act 2005 because they offer a div question (making it skill) or offer free entry roots. It's all stuff that allows raffles/comps in working mens clubs & the like, laws changed for the national lottery. But now, forget fishing... There are comp sites all over social media in every realm. Big ones. For food, for cars, for houses, for the list is endless. The one thing they all have in common is the most horrific odds. Prizes mysteriously never get claimed... Haha... It's the new way for anyone with a few quid to get rich, by preying on people in general who have nothing. For anglers to build up a loyal following, then follow up with stuff like this is quite savage. I'm not saying the fishing comp sites are doing that.... But most of them on Faceache doing cars etc are. As if someone wins a car and does not claim it. Haha.
Before the recent budget, the government were going to tax the horse racing industry via bookmakers at the same rates as online casinos & the like which are all computer programmes, based abroad. They pay a much, much higher rate. The horse racing industry employs around 100,000 people in the UK. The tax rises were fought off. A lot of the attention from the UK bookmakers was being directed towards these comp sites. The fact that they are unlegislated, self regulated is a recipe for disaster... I'd say there is new legislation coming for them all very soon to Bradders.
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In reply to Post #51
It is all being looked into apparently,I dont fully understand what I was told but something to do with it being classed as a raffle its a loophole around the gambling laws.You may know more as I don't gamble at all
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I'm not replying to anyone in particular.... Just passing on the comments of the owner of the TackleBox, who knows that I am posting this. I asked him the question because of what was being posted about his shop on this thread & told him I would be posting his response online on here.
The TackleBox did supply a couple of the comp sites when they first came about (few years ago now).... At full retail price. This was an internal conundrum from the very start, but as they were paying full RRP it was decided there was not much they could do apart from supply. Very quickly the comp sites gained either accounts with the companies, or other shops and no longer ordered. One of them did approach one of the owners of the TackleBox for a trade account, but was scoffed at. The bloke did not seem to understand why on earth would the shop sell them stuff at trade. The TB owner even commented that they (comp sites) are already getting £10k for a £1k item.... Yet they want his profits too?? He's not heard from any of them since.
That's all from the owner of the TackleBox above.
The fact that it's the same prizes being given out across the board pretty much would suggest they got accounts with the tackle companies themselves.
I stand by my own statements in my first post. If any of you think that this is good for tackle shops, the industry, or anyone except the comp sites, my opinion is that you are very wrong. You are excusing your fellow anglers being absolutely fleeced. I understand odds as well as anyone. Bookmakers would not be allowed to get away with this. They can as it's lined up as a comp. It's disgusting and the people involved should be ashamed of themselves... Not defended. All IMO the last paragraph.
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In reply to Post #47
I do one big order from TB or Johnson Ross for around 100 and that does me for the year. I don't chop and change things, and only ever use two rigs (har rig and chod) so have no need to pop in for extras.
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In reply to Post #48
Pretty much the same as me, I've stocked up on hooks at very good prices so probably won't need to buy any for a decade, haven't bought a lead from a tackle shop for probably 15 years, bait comes direct from Aqua Bait and don't need any more Rods, Reel etc.
As and when I do buy a new shelter or Bed etc I generally keep my eyes peeled for discounts from the big boys. All I go to the local shop for these days are odd bits of end tackle and maybe a bit of pellet here and there.
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I have accumulated so much gear that in the last 2 years all i have bought apart from bait is 2 bulk spools of line each year from my local tackle shop. Will be the same again this year, i don't dump leads and have enough hooks, swivels etc to last the rest of my life!
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In reply to Post #38
I've spent 51 last week and 31 this week in my local
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In reply to Post #38
I tried twice in November to make purchases in my small local shop, both times they didn't have what I wanted in stock.
Luckily I've got Johnson Ross and an Angling Direct within 30 mins drive so I went to JR instead, I try not to use AD if I can really help it.
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In reply to Post #38
Yes
I have a couple of sea tackle supplier that I will go in to
I do however have to buy most of it on line.
My only freshwater purchase has been on line.
I have even tried to buy something from a manufacturer as they have stopped selling to most other shops now
And it is never in stock lol
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In reply to Post #38
I go in the Tacklebox when I have the time, however I usually order stuff online as I work shifts and it's often awkward to find the time. I would never go in the shop to look at things and then order from elsewhere online.
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In reply to Post #38
I've been in to both local shops to me twice recently and on both occasions left and bought what I wanted online based on neither of them carrying stock.
Even today, a round trip to one of these to see they don't have stock, so off down the motorway to AD who had plenty in and plenty of options. Cheaper too
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In reply to Post #38
All the bloody time!
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In reply to Post #38
Be an interesting poll to see who has GENUINELY been and spent above (say) 30 in person in their local tackle shop during the last (say) six months...
Yes, went in twice, November and December 42 the first time and 38 the second time.
Doesn't go far.
Would have spent more but they didn;t have a particular mainline in the breaking strain that I wanted.
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In reply to Post #38
I have on numerous occasions
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In reply to Post #38
Is it possible to spend less than 30 when you go into a tackle shop?!
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Be an interesting poll to see who has GENUINELY been and spent above (say) 30 in person in their local tackle shop during the last (say) six months...
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In reply to Post #36
Shimano are still no better now either,still do the same
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In reply to Post #32
Not from the evidence I've seen, IMO Angling Direct and Total Fishing Tackle etc have a bigger impact on smaller tackle shops than the competitions, the local tackle shop was going extinct long before all the prize sites started up.
From my personal experience in the trade 15 years ago it's about buying power and fast turnover
High end tackle is a different game altogether, small shops couldn't compete.
Was supposed to be a level playing field...bull.
Shimano were awful to deal with, one of the Technium MG big pits was offered to dealers at silly money if you spent enough.
Most of the time you'd be lucky to sell a Stradic or base level baitrunner.
The manufacturers would have give gold, silver and bronze accounts to retailers
And every couple of months the reps would go around offering deals on a range of tackle and high end gear that would be clearing customs soon.
For example their discounts would be based on 50k spend, 20k spend, 10k and 5k spend.
First they went to the small shops who didn't have 10k or 5k to spend on a few high end rods/reels and loads of harder to move lines, end tackle and luggage.
So not having sold their container loads of gear the reps would go to Erics, Climax- who would take the lot.. a million quids worth.
And have a big online sale making 10-15% and after that still sell the remnants for the same or less than the small shop could buy it in.
Cue Johnny customer who goes into his local shop (which couldn't compete on discounts but splashes out on some shelf candy) checks out a rod, reel then orders them online.
Two things happen after that, the local shop stops stocking gear it can't sell and the customers stop coming in for basics.
Honestly thought Korda was a PITA, first you couldn't get an account and had to buy from another dealer, they wanted to see B&M sales first not another online/ebay shop.
Then you had to stock a minimum amount of everything which the rep would top up as seen fit. Spend more, better account, more profit.
But the RRP is the RRP, same price tag all round, they didn't devalue their products.
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In reply to Post #32
Well i will take the word of a rep from a top end supplier and my mate who owns his own tackleshop
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In reply to Post #32
Regardless of the mixed responses, I think we can all agree that Mark Pitchers is a bell end.
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In reply to Post #20
Not from the evidence I've seen, IMO Angling Direct and Total Fishing Tackle etc have a bigger impact on smaller tackle shops than the competitions, the local tackle shop was going extinct long before all the prize sites started up.
I don't follow the Competitions so know nothing about one of the them opening a tackle shop, if true it's not really a surprise and makes perfect sense from a business point of view.
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Selling second hand prices all comes down to how much someone is willing to pay
I've seen some crazy prices both ends people basically giving it away and people what some times want more than what it costs new
But nothing gets sold with out a buyer
Tackle tarts who want to keep up with the latest trend will dispose of there gear yearly to get the next new gizmos sometimes at huge losses
Then I find people with budget gear wanting to upgrade want nearly new prices for there gear
I never buy tackle with a single thought for resale value I buy what I want and can afford with the sole intention of never selling on and if I do move things on it's for what market value dictate and if I don't like the prices it just stays gathering dust
You pay your money you make your choice
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In reply to Post #28
I say the same about the lottery lol
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Entered non, never lost, so that makes me a winner 
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In reply to Post #26
A lad i worked with who lived local to me paid 14 for 2 tickets to one and won a 75k BMW and he took the car over the cash.... they tried hard to get him to take the money instead at first but eventually he got the car and has been made up with it, bar having to fill the thing with petrol
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In reply to Post #24
I know a lad who started a company raffling car parts, that ended up regularly raffling 100k+ cars, couple of the raffles undersold and it bankrupted him.
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Entered one once 6/7yrs ago. 2 48hrs on linear all food and bait in with a venue expert. Fished all my life but had only carp fished for 18 months or so. Great session and walked away with knowledge to help on my local waters.
The best 2 I've ever spent. Never had another go on any since.
Only did it to help me improve and it did many thanks Leon if you are still on here.
Paul then from Yarmouth.
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There's a power tool shop that started doing a few raffles a couple of years ago and have now blown up and their raffle side of the company is now worth more than the actual power tool sales side...and they obviously get stuff at cost price tool wise.
Things are obviously there to be won by people but some people are dropping hundreds of pounds on tickets for that dopamine.
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Brexit, covid, and 16 years of Austerity is the very obvious answer. I think people are doing serious mental gymnastics to try and suggest the Raffle companies are the issue. The raffle companies are a result of the cost of living rising, they prey on poor people, they are not the cause of it. People are skint.
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In reply to Post #3
I'm guessing a lot of the new stuff being sold is unwanted competition prizes.
Or insurance jobs, scams, stolen from Evri
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Competitions
I really dislike the concept of effectively selling tackle for three times it's shop value via a draw. In this day and age I don't see gambling as a flutter just a desperate attempt to own something people can't afford. As I've always said go into The Tackle Box with 4 mates and say if we all give you 200 can you pick one of us to win 500 tackle voucher? That way at least you know the winner, shorter odds - but you just wouldn't would you?
Ease of advertising
With market place and the like listing tackle has never been easier, which causes a price drop and can mug some people off when they are listing at a higher price than a shop with offers on the products.
Faith in pricing
Aside from a small number of manufacturers/ shops - most of us have seen 50-70% off offers in shops - I walked round a show with a shop owner who saw some prices that were below his trade price.if you spend 300 on say a Greys rod, then in a year it's worth about 150 (in my mind) but if it's being sold end of line for 150 new, your value is now 80 ish
Covid / trend
Plenty of people started up fishing in covid or went back to it - as it was what we'd be reconditioned to do - connect with the outdoors and enjoy life. Now we are back to the bustle - now the day ticket waters have got a bit tougher to catch a newly stocked 30 or 40 then everything goes up for sale - toy boat and all.
The only real downside of purchasing second hand is the absolute crap service from the main players - that all tell you to go back to the shop when things go wrong.
If you want something it usually turns up second hand if you want to wait - but we can't have it both ways - a good local tackle shop does so much more than sell tackle and I fear for the future.
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In reply to Post #19
Youre wrong,it is affecting the tackleshops especially when one of the biggest at doing this has opened their own shop to get accounts with the suppliers.They are cutting out the middle man so making even more profit
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In reply to Post #18
I don't enter these "competitions” and have no intention of doing so, as far as
I'm concerned they're just another part of the rubbish modern culture that has taken hold of this country. Nobody wants to work hard and save for anything anymore so entering these Comps is a cheap way of potentially getting something you can't afford. I remember flying through airports about 15yrs ago and there would be say a Lamborghini in the Departure Lounge that you could pay 5 and potentially win, it's no different and just gets adapted and made for a different market.
On the affecting Tackle Shop sales, it doesn't affect them at all as 99% of the time the company running the Competition will physically purchase the Competition Item from say Johnson Ross or The Tackle Box etc and have it shipped directly to the "Winner”.
The only part of the Tackle Market it affects is the 2nd Hand Market as there are loads of New or Nearly New items about at knock down prices.
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In reply to Post #1
They shouldn't be allowed to call them competitions, there is no competing, they are simply a raffle.
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I really can't imagine many people win anything worthwhile in those raffles, preying upon some people's weaknesses.
Especially at a level to effect the tackle trade or second hand values.
More likely there is a lot of people with less money in their pockets. Also the lack of quality affordable fisheries is surely causing the decline in numbers carp fishing.
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Don't really focus on competitions but when I've tried to sell stuff people think.you must be desperate. Loads of ****kickers out there who want stuff for next to nothing. Tried to sell 3 original solar butt bangers on here a while back... wanted 20 plus postage. Some cheeky fecker offered 15. Ended up giving them to some keen kids on my local club water.
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In reply to Post #11
You're bound to get the odd win, it might be with the first ticket that you buy! Ultimately, though, this is the lowest level of gambling.....a bit like slots, the more you do it, the worse your odds.
And yes, I agree, re MP and the others. Exploiting anglers and they should be ashamed.
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I think these so called competitions should be banned or at least be renamed raffles,
The ones that anger me most are the fake word search ones on TV, I've always thought of vulnerable people being tricked into thinking they've cracked it and have a chance of winning.
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In reply to Post #10
Prices to enter are so small it encourages people to buy more tickets.
Is it milking the cow or just selling to the gullible??
I have only ever entered 1 of these and that's because it was a charity fund raiser, I knew I was never going to win and only entered to add to the collective pot as gift aid was claimed on it, it made more money for the charity.
Seems these weren't a thing before covid.
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In reply to Post #8
The various tackle shop closures over the last 12 months pretty much confirm that the covid bubble has burst.
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In reply to Post #10
Do people even win these comps. I've only ever done it once but get update emails every week saying nothing was won. I think it was with UKCC but like I say nobody ever seems to win.
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In reply to Post #9
MP sums up what's wrong with carp fishing, well not just him but he's rinsing the normal working bloke.
There seems to be a lot of certain types of gear for sale which links with what the comps offer...kaizen greens and Delks like you say.
Edited because don't want to get banned 🤣...
MP is scum though.
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In reply to Post #5
Exactly right
As he's probably the "biggest profile” doing these
Pitchers seems to be doing ok out of it..
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Times are hard, cost of living crisis. People moving on tackle because they need money and they need it now. Hence price. People not being able to aford to go anymore or not as much. Day ticket prices. Club and syndicate tickets pricing people out. Giving up maybe. Be interesting to find out whether the figures for people fishing these days is on the down turn. I know there was an up turn over Covid. The Angling trust, Enviroment agency and even the tackle trade will have some ideas on figures.
Well if your in the position to be able to buy. And your after some new tackle. Looks like your getting more bang for your buck in the second hand market. Nows the time to buy..
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Dont most of these competitions just run a cash alternative though? Most of them don't have the actual item they're raffling, they either give a cash alternative or they drop ship it from somewhere. Why would loads of people be winning items they don't want?
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In reply to Post #5
This is exactly what a rep in my local shop was saying about these competitions
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In reply to Post #3
Quote.... I'm guessing a lot of the new stuff being sold is unwanted competition prizes.
That's exactly what I said would happen a few months ago when these comp sites were being spoken about on here regarding gambling at the most horrific odds in carp fishing.
This is the upshot. The market gets flooded with brand new products, which the winners do not really want or need in reality... So a lot of it gets sold instantly. Ultimately, this really hurts the companies flogging their product to these comp sites. It's not all that smart. It hurts the fishing tackle shops because there is so much brand new kit floating about at knock down prices... Finally it effects you lot and what your second hand kit is worth.
The whole thing is an absolute recipe for disaster for carp fishing. Whilst a few blokes get rich.
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I think new prices are dropping (always sales on somewhere), and if you aren't precious about a brand/logo what you can get for your money is on this up too.
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I'm guessing a lot of the new stuff being sold is unwanted competition prizes.
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In reply to Post #1
Fallout from the covid boom I reckon.
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The second hand tackle prices have really dropped off over the past 6 months. Regularly see cheap prices nowadays where as a couple of years ago prices were high.
Seen a brand new set of 3 Shimano Aero Technium MGS XTD for 1200.
New presentation sets of Delkim TXI D V2's at 400 to name just 2.
Is this just a blip or is everyone skint/carp fishing on the decline etc?
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