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Yes great thanks for the info all, hopefully add it into some up coming sessions
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In reply to Post #26
Nice one, thank you. That will come in handy for spring and setting little traps in the edge.
ATB
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In reply to Post #24
Couple of handfuls of dry tigers is the least I have done personally.
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In reply to Post #23
Couple of days Ash. Put them next to a radiator
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What would be the minimum amount of tigers you could prep and still get slime?
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In reply to Post #15
Thanks for the information, how many days would you say to leave it for before you should achieve the slime or ist all trial and error? Just trying to work out how many days it should take before I go to sprays the tigers from the slime and use on a session! Very handy information thanks!
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Need to be careful to avoid confusion here. The original question was about Tiger slime which most of the manufacturers state is concentrated Tiger Nut Extract, nothing less, nothing more, as supplied as concentrate in bottle for diluting for drinking.
Fermenting* Tiger Extract is a completely different subject as Mark said. I personally believe the latter to be better, but they both bring different things to the table and for that reason there is in my mind no comparison. * and enzyme activity
There is, or was, a good thread on fermenting particles somewhere.
edit, here
LINKY POO™ https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=429184&ReadAll=1
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I have been using slime tigers for probably 25yrs+, but for me it can be hit and miss sometimes.
On my last France trip last September I prepared a 25kg sack of tigers. Presoaked in cold water with 100ml Talin for 24hrs. Then boiled until swollen, probably about 40mins. Then split into 4 identical airtight buckets and taped shut. Left in the garden for a week or so (weather was warm).
When I opened the buckets in France three had turned perfectly slimy, but one bucket was totally liquid .
As the trip went on over the next month I used the tigers. Unusually they stayed thick and slimy, normally as time goes on the slime stops reacting and goes back to liquid. In fact I was having to add a bit of lake water to thin the slime a bit as I wanted a bit of a spread of tigers and they were just sold lumps of tigers and gloop.
I bought half a bucket home unused and they were still thick with slime last week. Never had them last like that before. 3+ months in a bucket being opened and closed and remaining slimy.
I'd love to be able to recreate that every time................anyone got any ideas on why they stayed slimy for so long?
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In reply to Post #17
Not sure what you mean Jon if that was directed to me.
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In reply to Post #18
That banana smell Mirage use is very good, reminds me exactly of what you mention super ripe fruit right on that point. The carp certainly like it.
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In reply to Post #16
I only have natural brown sugar at home so that's always what I use. White is just as good mate as you say.
The corn syrup is a great addition to it. Every living thing on the planet is attracted to sweet things, including carp. That's what happens when natural foods ripen, they become sweeter. Take a banana for example. A raw one is bland. A fully ripened one is incredibly sweet. All living things on the planet come from the same original cells. We may have morphed into the various different species, but there are many base things that ring true across all mammals/fish. Offer a horse a carrot, then a sugar lump while it has the carrot in its gob.... It will spit the carrot out on the floor to get to the sugar lump. It's for the exact same reasons. Receptors built to pick up on food. Ripening/sweetening food is about the biggest one in my opinion.
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If not allowed to use whole tigers only chops are you able to chop them dry first before cooking or only after?
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In reply to Post #15
You grind it up to make the drink - nothing like the slime.
The only thing I do different is soak them in hot water then add the sugar at that stage, I was spending a fortune on real posh brown sugar, but I have experimented with normal white sugar with little to any difference. I have added corn syrup to them at the end of the cycle as I leave them another tactic borrowed from Mark - that turbocharges the slime. As mentioned, the kiss of death is the freezer - I know make smaller batches rather than how I use to so they get used rather that refroze. Same with hemp, defiantly better used sooner than later.
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In reply to Post #13
Quote... Thanks for the links guys! Does anyone know if I prepare some tigers how long the slime would last if I separated it from the tigers please?
A few days Ash. Even freezing it on it's own, once it comes out of the freezer it is not the same. It's lost it's active element & returned to a thin liquid. What you are describing regarding the slime, is zero like what you will buy in a bottle. Not even in the same stratosphere.
You can prepare small amounts of tigers very easily to have the slime very active for when you go fishing. Once you get the hang of it, it's so easy to make sure you have what you want for the time you go fishing. It's so easy to prepare. Water, tigers, a bit of sugar.
It's just one of those things that you cannot bottle. It's super time specific. It's at it's very most potent for three days after they first slime up.Then it starts going backwards in terms of attraction. The tigers will still be great. But if talking about the active slime, that's a part of the tigers fermenting. You cannot buy that in a bottle. It's based on water essentially, and unfortunately the water will spoil which stops the ferment & sends it backwards. If you add stuff to preserve the water, it will kill the ferment in the first place. I might be wrong but that's what I have always found and I've played with the stuff my whole angling life. You can change the water to keep the actual tigers fresh for many years. It's the water which goes off essentially first, then sending the tigers. Keep the water fresh, the tigers will remain fresh. But you only get that slime fermenting the very first time you do them. After changing the water it's never going to happen again. The tiger has shot it's bolt in essence regarding all of that above.
If you could bottle the active bubbling slime and stop it going backwards after the peak of the fermentation, trust me we would be selling it. The concentrate/milk stuff you do buy in a bottle is NOTHING in comparison to the real thing in terms of pure attraction to a carp. Not saying it's not great and does not work... But it's not the slime that you are referring too.
No one uses tigers in the winter. The active slime is the very best cold water attraction for a carp that there is. It even trumps sweetcorn in cold water IMO. Not the actual tiger, the active slime.
Boil your tigers. Pour into a bucket. Add a handful of brown sugar while red hot. Put the lid on and leave. You can do it without any sugar whatsoever if you want, but I like to sweeten the slime. Sugar does this and will only enhance the ferment, not kill it.
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In reply to Post #13
Freeze it if you want it fresh or let it mature for a few months to go extra funky👌
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Thanks for the links guys! Does anyone know if I prepare some tigers how long the slime would last if I separated it from the tigers please?
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In reply to Post #6
It's certainly a tasty drink.
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In reply to Post #10
The problem with that for me, It'd be one for the fish, one for me  don't fancy the after effects though based on Carps vents that have been munching on them  *
Joke
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Probably as cheap to prep your own nuts to get the spunk and chuck them in as prebait or give them to someone.
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https://www.carptigernuts.com/tigernut-subproducts/tigernuts-extract/
Tigernut extract. Google it. Plenty of suppliers. 
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In reply to Post #5
Ideally I was thinking of a consistency like fermented tiger slime! I don’t know if I could get that other than making it myself boiling tigers? Do you think any other company’s would do think fermented stuff? The hinders stuff looks good but is preserved / pva friendly?
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In reply to Post #5
I'm sure that was the stuff I used, used to buy it in boxes of 6, glass bottles, it was nice as a drink too when watered down with milk.
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Unless you mean fermented tigernut snot..Horchata de Chuffa, 
https://supercostablanca.es/gb/healthy-food/2417-hisc-horchata-artesana-de-chufa-concentrada-horchata-squash-1l
https://alicantedelicatessen.com/en/product/horchata-concentrate-500ml/
you could pick it up in the UK about 15 years ago, I believe it was branded as MIAM and then one of the bait companies..maybe Solar? cornered the bottled imports, relabelled it and doubled the price.
Used it back then in boilies and particles, made boilie rolling very sticky and tbh I thought condensed milk and tigernut flour did the same job
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In reply to Post #1
Apart from Angling shops, delis sometimes stock it and you can make your own, search horchata de chufa
There are different types, some with added ingredients, obv looking for the thicker yellow stuff, sometimes sold as concentrate/cordial/
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In reply to Post #1
Hinders list it
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In reply to Post #1
Hinders
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Good morning all,
I’m looking to purchase some tiger slime, I’m not really interested in the tigers really but wanted to add some tiger slime into my mix. Does anyone know where you can purchase this please?
Cheers,
Ash
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