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In reply to Post #45
Can't you put a bit of duct tape around it first to test if it solves the issue?
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In reply to Post #44
Think l’m going to try build it by keep giving it a layer of paint just the bit that goes in that you don’t see just try get it a tighter fit as it slides in properly take a good few coats but can’t see any other way, think it’s a bad design surely, never like this on my porter-lite that was a tight fit sliding the handle in.
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In reply to Post #43
Such replies are so lame. I guess I will wait for the mk2 version then. For you this doesn't solve the problem though, which is a shame.....
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In reply to Post #42
Hi l emailed carp-Porter and they asked if l could send a video to them of my stealth barrow and the movement in the handles when fully tighten up and this is the reply l received.
Thanks for sending that over. I've had a proper look, and the amount of movement you're seeing in the handles is normal for the current Stealth design. The newer no-loss thumb screw system works by pinching the inner tube from the inside rather than clamping the bracket externally like the older design.
Because the pressure is applied internally, it allows for a small amount of natural flex in the handle joint. What you're seeing in your video is within the expected range for this setup and doesn't indicate a fault or incorrect assembly.
The upside is that this design keeps the handles much more secure and prevents them from pulling out or becoming detached during use. The slight extra movement is simply a trade-off of the improved safety and retention system.
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In reply to Post #39
I have been thinking about this. Can't you use a washer between the inside walls (female part) of the frame and the male part of the handle that goes in? That way you fill the gap that there is which creates the play in the handle and still the screw can go through the frame and press against the pole of the handle?
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In reply to Post #38
I heavily greased every connection join and screw on my powerporter and apart from the odd dink after 10 years it was like one 6 months old when i sold it .Yes i occasionally got grease on me but its worth doing
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In reply to Post #38
Not a power porter but l got one of the stealth barrows and noticed the same problem with the handles feeling loose after tightening right up so just trying work out what l can do about this with getting a good deal online a while ago but doesn't feel stable when your pushing it along loaded up, l had the porterlite before this which l think was built better and weighed less granted they look better with some of the extras you can get but that's it.
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Today I had a good look at the new Carp Porter barrows on the Carp Den Bosch show. I think the design, the wheel, luggage and the updates are fantastic. I must say though, that I was disappointed with the thickness (or lack) of the bars and I already saw rust on some of the welded joints. Also, the handle bars felt a bit loose within the frame (yes the bolts were screwed in tightly).
I was all set to buy one, but now I am not so sure anymore..
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In reply to Post #35
I get what you mean. Sometimes when they try to spin they will spin wrong and potentially wedge against any racking/sides of the van.
A bit like moving your trolley to the side of an aisle in the supermarket...then trying to move backwards and the wheel swivels round and wedges against the bottom of the shelfing
I'm happy I went for the Trident rather than the Glider, got my second voyage with it tomorrow and it's a 350m walk from van to lake across farmland. Fingers crossed I'm still happy with it by Sunday when I have to do the 350m walk uphill across 3 fields to get back to van.
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In reply to Post #35
Ah understand what you mean now - assume the new Korda PPorters do this
Would have thought van access is on the front powered wheel anyway with a ramp . . .?
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In reply to Post #34
But you can't move the barrow with the brakes on. What I'm saying is when you drive it into the van the wheels are in one orientation, when you want to drive it out the want to spin 180 degrees. Locking pins would allow it to go straight in then straight out.
Just my experience.
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In reply to Post #33
Stops em rotating tho . . .!
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In reply to Post #32
Brakes yes, locking pins no.
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In reply to Post #30
All Barrow Buddies wheel kits do have brakes / wheel locks - one on each wheel?
As (an assumed) one man band he only does batches of 50x so you do need to get in quick - I was one of the first few to get on the list and my 'fixed width' kit has been tried and tested for almost a year now - they are a game changer.
I did a day sesh with my unpowered un swivel wheeled Porterlite the other day - it was depressing 
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If I was minded to order a set of the new Carp Porter ones, for my MK8
Would I want the standard handle or the new "ergonomic" ones, as fitted to their "glider" model?
Anyone got any thoughts, on the practicality?
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In reply to Post #29
The Barrow Buddies didnt work for me. I found the wheels spinning around whilst getting it in and out of the van a pain. For me they needed some sort of locking mechanism.
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I've had a barrow buddies one delivered today (will check it out when I get home) for my MK7 power porter
There's a long waiting list for them as they are made to order. I ordered mine on the 30th May so expect a fair wait if you order one
I went for the new GLS Pro Adjustable version which is obviously adjustable on the widths of the wheels and come with puncture proof tyres. £195 delivered which I didn't think was too bad. The fixed width version is £165 delivered. Payment is taken when it's ready to be posted
If you are interested in buying one/going on the list then just text the number on his pages and he will put you on the list and then get back in touch when it's your turn for one to be built to make sure you still want it before he orders the materials
Apart from the long wait it's been pretty straight forward to deal with barrow buddies
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In reply to Post #27
I like the idea of the barrow buddies one, I just wish they (he?) would sort out a decent web shop. As I've never fancied ordering ''from a bloke off Facebook'
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In reply to Post #26
That's what I thought, I'll wait for the barrow buddies and save £60
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In reply to Post #25
jesus that's not cheap is it
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In reply to Post #23
800mm from outside of left to outside of right tyres.
It's narrower than my Nash barrow as the wheels are vertical on the Trident, not splayed.
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In reply to Post #14
Could you please measure the width of the rear wheel base please
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In reply to Post #21
That's good to know thanks, will order a can of the spray now 👍
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In reply to Post #20
Have a look at the Korda videos on their YouTube channel. All their barrows are rusty predominantly around the motor, and exposed fixings.
I treated my MK8 the day I got it out the box, and 10 months later (ISH) it's still good.
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Thanks, I'll get some as it's reasonably priced.
When I spoke to Korda at that show they said the box section had been sprayed (internally) and so it should be corrosion resistant. I doubt they done that with previous models.
My main concern (probably) is the motor being external to the wheel, I will be conscious of deep mud this winter. My other power barrow (Nash one) has the motor internal to the wheel and so no cables to snag etc
But I'm sure the Trident will be good. I hope it is...not long until I get to try it out (24hrs and I'll be fishing)
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In reply to Post #18
I had really hoped the quality with these was better than they were with the original Carp Porters...
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In reply to Post #17
Treat the parts you care about with a can of ACF50. They rust and look tatty really quickly otherwise...
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In reply to Post #16
I'm fortunate enough to have the van specifically for fishing so I can whack the barrow straight in, no need to collapse it.
It did take a while to build it the other evening, but that was things you normally wouldn't need to do like stick the rear wheels on their axles etc
That said,I still think it would take quite a while to dismantle, and some of the bits are heavy and you wouldn't want to accidentally bang them against your car during ‘take down'
I'm planning on fishing at the syndicate this weekend, so weather permitting I will try and get some video done with my brother. I'd be interested to know myself
As with all barrows, some things are time consuming (like wrapping the Velcro around a frame to secure a bag) and this is where the time could stack up. More luggage = more delays before you set off from the car park
I did like the bank stick bag. It has nice strong looking loops on its top left/right corners and so it can be very quickly hooked onto the front or back bars, and face either way to ensure it remains accessible.
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are any of these easy to collapse to put away folded down in a car
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In reply to Post #14
Congrats Karlos - some great pics ill be keen to hear the long term reviews
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Just to get back on topic...new Carp Porter.
I bought the Trident after looking at them at the Winter show. It was going to be that or the Glider. The Glider was a bit longer though and I was pretty sure it wouldn't fit in the back of my van (despite being LWB, I have a rear triple seat - which is the issue here)
The delivery came in 2 parts, apparently DHL do this quite a bit.
Evening #1 : 5 boxes arrived
I thought the biggest box didn't look quite big enough but wondered if the frame was a self assembly job from lots of pieces. Having opened that box I realised the frame was missing.
Evening #2 : The frame arrives
Box 1 : Batteries (in Bag)
Box 2 : Charger
Box 3 : Front Wheel
Box 4 : Rear Wheels
Box 5 : Drop in bag (photo in the 5 box photo above)
Instruction manual which I never read, doesn't cover the powered wheel bit anyhow!
Pamphlets that came in the first 5 boxes, also not to be read if you are male
Couple of shots with some gear on for illustration purposes, I have since added the handlebar bag and some other 'soft furnishings' to it. I can do more photos if anyone wants to see/know specifics
There's possibly JUST enough room for me to put the SMALL front bag onto it and still have the tailgate close, fingers crossed as I will be buying that for myself for another early Xmas present
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In reply to Post #3
Yes, the Shimano barrow is a good barrow. Like you say, it has the front which you can store your bedchair on, and the front then lifts off separate from the rest of the barrow chassis.
I bought one of these barrows off a forum member last year as I decided to buy a complete Shimano Trench gear setup. The barrow was the final missing piece.
I used the barrow a couple of times at my syndicate but stopped using it because it is 2 wheeled and they run VERY close to the edge of a bridge/walkway that I need to cross.
When used on a normal path the barrow was very nice, 2 wheels at the front so no need to worry about left/right wobble and tipping over. Pushing was quite hard going up hill but perfectly doable, once you got on the flat it become a doddle.
The frame is lightweight aluminium as well which helped.
I don't think you can easily find these barrows around anymore, took me ages to find one that wasn't "collect from the ass-end of nowhere"
Some of the Trench bits from this years eBay hunting
Not a great shot of the barrow, but the centre of gravity is lovely and low, the kit sits inside the frame. With that and the double wheels the barrow never felt like it was going to topple over
You can see where Korda got the idea of the clip on straps to hold the weigh sling/nets etc to the side/underneath the barrow so the water doesn't drip over your dry gear
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Has anyone seen these in the shops yet (are they in the shops already)? I think they look perfect for what I am looking for and much better than what is available. For instance the bar to hold your holdall is a much better design. I am really curious if the welds and thickness of the metal is better with this revamped carp porter range.
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In reply to Post #8
Thanks. 
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In reply to Post #9
You're absolutely correct. The design is completely flawed.
The centre of gravity is way too high and above the wheel.
If you look at a wheel barrow the centre of gravity is behind the wheel and lower than the top of the wheel.
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ive always thought the Carp Porter design is flawed when it comes to taking the kitchen sink.
Once you get a bedchair, sleeping bag and cradle loaded, it leaves little room without packing higher and higher (and therefore more unstable).
I decided long ago that I would rather do 2 trips with less stuff and ditch the bulk, weight and the extra hassle of a power barrow!
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In reply to Post #5
Picture resized
I think we're getting somewhere with this idea. 1
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Korda have already done it...
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In reply to Post #2
there's very little innovation from most manufacturers nowadays
I'm going to hesitate a guess that it's because most are owned by 'groups' or 'investment firms'. It's no coincedence that Solars Sofa chair is very similar to others launched since, probably same production line, different labels, and savings on bulk manufacture.
As an example, we had bivvy's in the 90's that were 5kg, now they're 15kg's.
Yes there were but imo you can't really compare them. I had a Fox Evo for over a decade, a great lightweight bivvy, but the original Frontier was far more stable, totally different build qualities, and you pay for it in weight.
What's next, are they going to have a ride on barrow next?
I really hope so  I don't see the need for the motor on the wheel of the barrow. It should be on a platform you can stand on with some rigid/flexi link to the barrow. The rigid link should be detachable and turn into handle bars so you can use the platform independently as a segway type foot board to get round the lake, even put gps on it so it can take beers round the lake to your mate...hold on...never mind..he'll have a bait boat for that
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In reply to Post #2
I believe it was shimano that released a barrow designed to have a bedchair upright on the front of it. That was something a bit new and different, but i assume didnt take off as i dont think they was on the market that long.
Users need to want the changes for it to be worthwhile for the manufacturers to make them.
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In reply to Post #1
I applaud the fact these barrows help the less able bodied but in my opinion there's very little innovation from most manufacturers nowadays. They just change the colour of something, make it 10kg's heavier and say it's the greatest thing since the wheel was invented.
Basically it's lazy design and putting short term profit before innovation.
Most sports have embraced concepts such as ‘ultralight', whereas carp angling is actually going backwards. As an example, we had bivvy's in the 90's that were 5kg, now they're 15kg's.
If you don't believe me, weigh your rod bag, rucksack and bedchair, without bait, food or water and see how crazy heavy it is.
Where's the innovation in cutting weight so you don't need a power barrow, or if you do need one, you don't need 4 batteries to get to your swim?
What's next, are they going to have a ride on barrow next? 
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Im a big fan of a power barrow having owned loads over the years both prestige and more recently Nash and Ive been tracking the solar for a while awaiting the new evoloution of Power porter from Korda which has been revealed this week
Have to say my initial thoughts are there is nothing new on the new range and they are stealing ideas from other innovators (Revolving rear wheelsas an example) Im amazed they still have the battery on the side and that theyve not gone Lipo
But the price for them ££££££ is mental in my mind - have I missed something here???
Still seems to be a product that is a game changer for most anglers but still one that even after all theese years there isnt a clear market leader
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