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Results you would expect using these approaches?
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Marruo

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#7 9 Oct 2025 at 12.05pm

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The advise given is truly invaluable thank you very much!

Post #3 might be just about the best and most sensible post I have ever read. Amazing thank you!

Kepp your opinions coming!

Scot-chegg

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#6 8 Oct 2025 at 8.34pm

I'd also advise varying up the timings for your 3/4 hour sessions if possible, from dawn through to dusk and take notes on any activity spotted, hopefully you can start building a picture of where and just as important when the fish are active.

RKB

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#5 8 Oct 2025 at 5.22pm

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Good post. 👍

0nslow

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#4 8 Oct 2025 at 3.47pm

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I would spend half of my time trying to find them and then put a couple of pouches on their nose and cast a chod at them.

Remember that location so that next time you go, you can either sit on the same spot and hope they live there or spend an hour marking out the spot.

If you didn't catch a fish on your first trip and it feels like a naff spot then go and find them again and repeat the process until you find a 'hotspot' worth concentrating on then you can prebait or fish for a bite over a couple of pouches. If it was me, I wouldn't prebait because of the limited time available.

I've only used boilie and popup for the last 15-20 years and does eventually work anywhere I am patient enough to fish and the current selection of sauces/goos/boosters do (IMO) work so use some.

To avoid catfish try a nut or milk based bait

55s

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#3 8 Oct 2025 at 3.36pm

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I’d say forget what you think you should do and agree what you can do, and that brings in loads of different factors, how often are your sessions. How busy does the lake get, how far away from home is it, what bait your using and others, so many things.

For me I always look at stories of successes and think I could do that - and on 99% of the occasions I couldn’t. It may be too far to pre bait, or clash with family / work commitments, bait be too expensive etc etc. so I work back to what I could do and sometimes you stumble across something by ruling out other things. Like the few hour sessions - maybe the singles approach but never casting unless you see something to go at, zig fishing only, following weather or moon phases - be the one who others say - dunno how he does it but…

I fished singles from November last year through to the end of March on 3 different venues, using only a single brand of pop up - it’s not something I have ever been comfortable doing, I like a bit of bait around - but on my main water with the limited time (and ability) I couldn’t spod at 100yards - so I stumbled on my tactic by accident - the only way I could get a bait near a fish I saw was a 12mm lobbed at it - I had a take on the drop pretty much and one an hour later - I wasn’t even accurate - those few hours saw me rock up at any water and think, I have my way and I have confidence in it.

I would rather have prebaited but that upsets others (or it would me) - I could use naturals but expensive, I could have used the method but word gets our and nuisance fish can spoil it. This isn’t an example of good angling, but an example of loads of factors guiding me - we all sort of know what we’d like to do but having something that you can do very easily but more importantly building confidence in that for me is key. By January I purposely only took hookbaits - madness really as sometimes bait may have been the answer but for me it would have started me back down the road of choices and decisions, in winter I fish 7 hours ish every Sunday on a handful of venues - some days I won big time, other days I got my arse kicked by the bait and waiters - no jealousy though as I have no desire to sleep round a muddy bit of water, cold and with 18 hours of darkness.

Good luck.

Scot-chegg

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#2 8 Oct 2025 at 3.00pm

1st thing I'd say is forget the 10/12 mm boilies,on a big low stocked venue your more than likely to be fattening up the roach population.

Marruo

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#1 8 Oct 2025 at 10.31am

40 years of carp fishing and I am as clever as at the start reg. my approach on my local gravel pits.

Scenario: 3-4 hour sessions and quick overnighters on medium sized gravel pits (about 6-10 hectaires). Fish density relatively low. Most fish 8-18kg, a few over 20kg. Nuisance fish roach and catfish. Big ones.

Approaches:
1. Method feeder, 10-12mm boilies and minimal feeding. Moving every 2 hours or when I see signs of fish somewhere close to shore.

2. baiting up heavily (2-5kg) with 12mm boilies and fishing the same bait on the hook. Maybe a double with one 12mm being a bright wafter. Fishing static and rely on the prebaiting.

3. baiting up heavily with 12mm boilies and fishing a very different bait on the hook with a different size and colour eg. a pink 24mm pop up. Fishing static and rely on the prebaiting.

4. particles. Lots of them e.g. 10-15kg of maize and tigers every 3 days on the marginal shelf somewhere where not everyone else fishes. Fishing tigers. Fishing static and rely on the prebaiting.

5. fishing singles e.g. with a stringer and cast to any signs of fish. No prebaiting at all.

The going approach that seems to sort out the better fish (10kg+) is to statically bait up with 2-4kg of 24-35mm boilies every 2-3 days and wait for the bigger fish to come by and accept the prebaiting.

Probably not ideal with little time on the hand, so I am thinking about changing next year to one of the approaches above.

What do you think will work and how?
Your comments would be very helpful in deciding what I will try :-).

Have a great season!


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