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JamieH
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   Old Thread  #33 26 Aug 2025 at 10.05pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #27
I been a GT HD user for many years and had no real reason to change. But got bedazzled by Damian Clarke’s passionate review on a recent podcast, so I thought I’d give it a whirl as I needed to re spool anyway.

Have to say - I am impressed with it.
It does knot down really well and also sinks relatively well. It seems durable enough also. Has handled itself well with fish getting weeded up with hardly any coil up afterwards. IMO, HD is a slight better caster when fishing over 90+ yards, but not a lot in it. Overall I am happy with it and can recommend if someone is looking for a new line. Will continue to be using it for the foreseeable. Well done Korda!
zinno
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   Old Thread  #32 26 Aug 2025 at 8.32pm  0  Login    Register
Today I bought 1 Okuma Obsedian to try out.

New line on it

The shop owner told me that the Kaizen is more of a casting line, also very strong on the knot and good abrasion resistance, with the big difference vs the Touchdown being that the Touchdown sinks better and faster, so went with the Touchdown again since throwing far is no longer necessary (bait boat)

He also suggested Kryston Oblivion Super Grade as an alternative to both, maby gonne try that one if a buy more Obsedians if i like it
g4fne
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g4fne
   Old Thread  #31 24 Aug 2025 at 11.11am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #30
ive been using Technium since early 2000s (silver tin days) and tbh, regardless of how its been packaged/labeled ive never noticed any difference (ive always used 12lb/0.33mm/0.32mm or 8lb/0.26mm ..... I didnt get on with the 15lb version)
colors
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colors
   Old Thread  #30 24 Aug 2025 at 5.22am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #29
is the technium as good as it was when it first came out? I know it changed a few years back and was nothing like the original but then it was discontinued and I've not tried it since it came back on sale
g4fne
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g4fne
   Old Thread  #29 23 Aug 2025 at 5.27pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #28
im a huge fan of techium. Would be great if something similar came out. But Kaizen is a different colour, different diameters, and not a 3 core mono so it doesnt have a lot in common with Technium
colors
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colors
   Old Thread  #28 23 Aug 2025 at 4.58pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #25
Can't be like subline, that stuff had more stretch than a pole elastic.

I'm hoping the kaizen is like the original technium that came in the metal tin. For some reason I remember it said on the tin that technium has 12% stretch . Be interested to know if korda would say what % stretch kaizen has
Jimmers532
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   Old Thread  #27 22 Aug 2025 at 8.30pm  1  Login    Register
How are people finding the kaizen line any good ?
dave_e
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dave_e
   Old Thread  #26 12 Aug 2025 at 10.18pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
Thanks think i will try it out
AndyCarper82
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AndyCarper82
   Old Thread  #25 12 Aug 2025 at 8.58pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #7
I needed to respool and picked up some 0.38... Subline in new packaging? Spooled up, seems okay.
pearbo
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pearbo
   Old Thread  #24 12 Aug 2025 at 8.46pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
Had 11 up to about 15lb, felt ok, I’d have liked to have given it the biggun but not really possible there. Majority of my angling is 15 wraps or less.
chewbakka
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chewbakka
   Old Thread  #23 12 Aug 2025 at 7.34pm  0  Login    Register
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dave_e
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dave_e
   Old Thread  #22 12 Aug 2025 at 7.10pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #21
Out of interest did you play a fish on it?
Thanks
pearbo
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pearbo
   Old Thread  #21 12 Aug 2025 at 10.29am  1  Login    Register
Used the 15lb for the first time this weekend, only at 15 wraps but felt like cotton compared to the cm90 I had on, cast better than it to, felt nice to touch and supple. It’ll certainly do for a while.
Busted
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   Old Thread  #19 8 Aug 2025 at 11.19am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #18
Interesting that its low stretch compared to technium. I always found that to be pretty low stretch
Jamesvg
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Jamesvg
   Old Thread  #18 7 Aug 2025 at 10.24pm  0  Login    Register
Out of curiosity I picked up a spool of 15lb/0.35mm from my local tackle shop.

After cutting off a 1m length and having a play I was pretty impressed - it does seem very limp for the diameter, although does look/feel a bit thicker than 0.35mm to my eye, and very low stretch compared to the technium I had on my spools.

I needed to respool owing to a incident with a paddle boat so decided to give the Kaizen a go and spooling it via a pencil through the spool it has gone on beautifully. Will hopefully get out Saturday night and test it in anger on but so far it seems a good product.
smellyfisherman
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   Old Thread  #17 7 Aug 2025 at 4.26pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
That will be the continuous improvement that the Kaizen name represents
Exiledcarper
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Exiledcarper
   Old Thread  #16 7 Aug 2025 at 3.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
" impressive breaking strain to diameter ratio ", per the advertising spiel.
What, you mean exactly the same as almost every other mono on the market ?
Talk about spin.....
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #15 4 Aug 2025 at 10.15pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
Now doing 600M bulk spools for £49.99 so vaguely better value! TBF its an excellent product IMO . . .if you like fishing slack lines with minimal faff its the business!
stuart666
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stuart666
   Old Thread  #14 4 Aug 2025 at 5.06pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
Every manufactures say the same about all their lines a bit like every 3.75lb rod will cast to the horizon yet still lovely to play fish on.
bentipping
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bentipping
   Old Thread  #13 4 Aug 2025 at 3.21pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #11
yes of course, but he doesn't strike me as someone who would push or use something unless it was decent. Clearly he's not going to say it's crap but you don't hear or see him pushing product do you? Not like Danny etc. Just my opinion.
Spod
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Spod
   Old Thread  #12 4 Aug 2025 at 3.10pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
Crikey, £32 for 250m for a hybrid line......PB sure know how to charge!
phil090781
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   Old Thread  #11 4 Aug 2025 at 2.56pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #6
You know he owns the company right? Of course he’s going to push it.
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #9 4 Aug 2025 at 10.04am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
Didn't say it sunk well or did they (may not have been listening)?
Honestly check out PB Hybron - def does what it says on the tin (I should be sponsored by them lol!)
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #8 4 Aug 2025 at 9.28am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
Sounds like the same blurb off the longchuck stuff
RKB
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   Old Thread  #7 4 Aug 2025 at 9.19am  0  Login    Register
Hopefully this is rebranded CM90!
bentipping
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bentipping
   Old Thread  #6 4 Aug 2025 at 8.59am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
They talked about it on the recent Korda uncut podcast. Damian in particular had high praise for it and I don't see him as someone who would push something he doesn't believe in. No doubt worth a look next time you need to change your line.
Jamesvg
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Jamesvg
   Old Thread  #5 3 Aug 2025 at 9.46pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #2
Yeah the advertising gives the impression that it's revolutionary- less stretch then fluoro, super supple/limp, good abrasion resistance, etc.

Sounds a bit too good to be true hence peeking my interest!
g4fne
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g4fne
   Old Thread  #4 3 Aug 2025 at 6.32pm  2  Login    Register
I was in a tackle shop at the weekend and this Kaizen line was flying off the shelves. Love/hate them, the power of Korda's name really is head/shoulders above anyone else.
kizzi
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   Old Thread  #3 3 Aug 2025 at 5.33pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
They must be overhyping it. Ask yourself this, when was your mainline last really a problem? And when it was, would a mono (any mono) have been the answer?

I have used Sub line, Kontour, and Touchdown. All were good, I’d happily use any of them again, none fundamentally changed my results.
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #2 3 Aug 2025 at 1.05pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Does look interesting - if its as good as they're plugging (all round line) its prob worth a punt . . .however until we get reviews I'll be sticking with Hybron!
Jamesvg
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Jamesvg
   Old Thread  #1 2 Aug 2025 at 11.30pm  0  Login    Register
Has anyone got their hands on this/used it during testing?

If so what are you overall first impressions? Any particular stand out features?

Cheers,
James.
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