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In reply to Post #7
They certainly did and it's a super efficient setup with virtually no waste.
I'm a bit baffled about the whole thing. Years ago you could ask them to make a tweaked or completely one off bait and, providing you were willing to buy a whole mix, they'd make it for you. In recent times they have been so busy making the standard baits (tonnes and tonnes) that they didn't have the capacity to make one offs. How does that business go bust? Bewildering!
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In reply to Post #15
To be fair, although Scopex Squid has had several slightly different versions, it is still a great bait and Gary himself still uses it on some decent waters. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't pay £14.99 for it, but I don't know many people in Essex who pay full price for bait from Nash or Mainline.
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In reply to Post #14
Amber Attract is the best bait of theirs I ever used by some way. The original ScopexSquid was excellent too. Why on earth they chose to end those is beyond me, just like you say.
Trouble for them is, when the original SS was launched they were the only firm selling a squid bait. When they did it this latest time, as mentioned in my last post, 597 other bait firms brought out the exact same bait, at the exact same time. All because Baracel launched a new squid liquid.
So instead of a great, unique bait like previously…. They are relying on fan boys wanting to be in the Nash gang to sell it with media. Not because it’s an exceptional unique bait. There’s no substance to that without the stand out product. Unfortunately that’s the world we live in now.
Gary Bayes was a bait making legend, who learned his trade in the Catchum shop under Rod Hutchinson. He also fished waters like Fen Drayton, he’s a truly great carp angler. Alan Blair & co are media lads, a little bit ‘urban’, listen to DnB & pump pump pump on socials constantly… Fish in Nash’s back garden. What do people really expect from that, great products?
Everyone seems to think that social media is the absolute be all & end all these days regarding selling stuff in carp fishing. Absolute balls is it though. The quality of product is still the most important thing, bar none. No product… No long term future. No matter how much free media they push out to sell the stuff. Yeah you will pull the wool over noddies eyes for a while, basking on former glories… But there’s zero long term future in it without the actual great product. It’s sad that these great companies who gave so much to carp fishing even went that way in the first place IMO. Style over substance with a bucket hat & some olive Nike trainers. Kevin Nash went to the absolute top of the carp fishing tree in the trade, with outstanding unique products designed by himself when he was younger, with Gary Bayes doing the bait. Top notch stuff back in the day. Not free media.
I sound like a right miserable old ‘see you next Tuesday’. 😂
Kevin Nash came up with so much tackle wise, the lead clip being the absolute greatest of them all. Hopefully that tackle side will still flourish for him going forwards.
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Nash isn't consistent enough with the bait range.
There's too much discontinuation
Nash Whisky and Amber Attract were my all time favourites.
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In reply to Post #9
Quote.... The fishing trade is in a dire state. Not just Nash, the big boys are all having issues at the moment. Regarding the bait, I don’t know anybody who uses it and haven’t for years.
I mentioned this on here recently. Some of the older major brands don't get used on the elite waters in the UK anymore & have not done for years in reality.... UNLESS the angler concerned is being paid. What does that say?
Yet in the internet world it is easy to deceive carp anglers into thinking differently by bombarding social media with paid influencers, to make you all think differently. Every single day I read online comments from anglers who barely even go fishing proclaiming this and that about certain large companies. It's all absolute rubbish. If these anglers were actually fishing any of the top waters they would see with their own eyes EXACTLY what you have said mate. You don't actually know anyone who has used the bait for years.
Let’s have it right.... What sensible angler in their right mind is going to pay £14 for a KG of this gear.... When they can go to Geoff, or BaitWorks, or DNA etc etc & get FAR better bait for a fraction of the price? The answer is the fanboys mentioned above who live in a world of sheer & utter ass kissing make believe & want to be in the Nash gang. They are still market leaders on many items of tackle though, so it kind of makes perfect sense. That's where they excel these days.
When Gary Bayes retired, that was the end of that regarding bait.
Baracel bring out a new squid liquid.... Five minutes later 597 different bait companies in the UK are bringing out a new squid bait. It's all got pretty tragic.
You are also correct in the fact that a lot of the industry, especially bait, is really struggling. There are simply far to many bait companies now is why. Lots of them need to disappear, & they will.... That's what is happening now. I feel incredibly lucky, also massively humbled that we are growing faster than at any point in our existence. We just sold two months worth of stock (2024 rates), in less than a week. That's not including tackle shop sales, who can't keep the stuff on the shelves for more than five minutes. We simply cannot make the stuff fast enough currently. So it's not all doom & gloom.
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In reply to Post #11
With it's own Heli pad, I presume.. 
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In reply to Post #7
More.like a new house for kev, which looks like something out of thunderbirds.
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I think Nash have totally lost their way with their marketing for about the last 18 months/2 years. It's as though they don't know where they fit anymore.
Their stand at the Big One was the biggest at the show, and in the middle - would've cost big big money.
However it was kind of like going to a gallery. Stuff in picture frames, beautifully laid out but totally missing the market. Terrible clothing too.
And for me, a lot of kit I would not ever buy - style over substance.
They've recently launched their new series of the podcast - dire.
Love or hate Urban Banx - they had it right for the majority of their target market. I wonder if Alan Blair is less involved in their creative direction.
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In reply to Post #8
The fishing trade is in a dire state. Not just Nash, the big boys are all having issues at the moment. Regarding the bait, I don’t know anybody who uses it and haven’t for years.
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Had heard the bait side of things was up for sale??
I have also heard. ( overheard conversation in a local tackleshop ) that they were also experiencing cash flow problems. Stock being held up in port etc.. how true any of this is will remain to be seen.. 
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Didn’t they just spend a bag of cash building a new bait factory on site?
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In reply to Post #5
Some gear yeah. But the bushwhacker pole is one of them and I can't see that being discontinued
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In reply to Post #4
also some of their stuff has been out of stock for a year or more now which is a sign of a struggling company
That will also depend on if it’s being phased out and replaced by something else
As it would make sense for it to be out of stock.
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In reply to Post #1
It's been going round for a couple of years now that Nash are on the brink of going pop. But they are still releasing new kit which would be an odd move. But also some of their stuff has been out of stock for a year or more now which is a sign of a struggling company
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In reply to Post #1
I would think most of them are struggling
But probably more likely going back to pre covid levels of due to cost of living
So massive downturns in business
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Quite surprising given the relatively recent launch of Shrimp.
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to cease trading apparently...
Quite surprised although to be honest back in the day they rolled some awesome bait, (Sting, Whiskey etc).
I had heard from someone in the trade that Nash were struggling as a whole, (could be BS of course) so maybe this part of the business has had to go?
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