|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #50
now my minimalist tendancy is ruined 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #49
No worries at all JP..
 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #47
Adams post, I suppressed it in error, apologies Adam 
Ha,great minds and all that ,as mate has just sent that to me as well . I thought it was a bidet at first !!! This was because I went posh ditching the survival shovel and bought a folding loo from lidsters ,now my minimalist tendancy is ruined ..36,maybe word has got out ?
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #31
Sounds like he didn’t have a clue tbh. I wouldn’t have just an electric for regular huge drives (plenty of people do though), but the notion that range drops by 2/3rds on the motorway is complete nonsense. We’ve got a Mercedes EQC and it does more miles on a 70-80mph motorway run than it does around town/mixed driving.
|
|
|
|
|
Message Suppressed by Forum Moderator.
|
|
|
|
|
| | | VLT | | Posts: 8954 |  | |
|
Another point to add, couple of years ago I bought the Trakker X Trail compact barrow, it's very low profile so with a motorcycle ramp you can wheel it into your boot still made up and depending on the vehicle, still with bedchair on. Then when home just wheel it down and into the garage. Makes the whole process a lot quicker.
LINKY POO™ https://www.trakkerproducts.com/uk/product/x-trail-compact-barrow
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #31
I’ve just done a French trip in an EV. Kent to Abbey was less than 80% charge in a loaded estate car. £25 to charge in 30 mins while there, then all the way back. AC running all the way, seemed pretty reasonable to me. Added bonus is your car is a charger if you need power while on the bank.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #42
Well said,just how much kit does the so called average carper need to take on a overnight or forty eight hour trip ..
You don't see many poor tackle manufacturers or whatever 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1
First thing I'd ask myself is do I need to take so much gear.
I manage with a Nissan Note and before that a Renault Clio.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #14
Ive had a 14 plate octavia 1.6tdi diesel estate for the last 11 years plus. 52-55 mpg and free road tax.
The boot is very large with seats dropped get loads of gear in, including a massive electric prestige barrow.
Ive Had zero issues with it except for 2 water pumps and the timing belt replacements and its on 112k miles. Still runs like new. (Waterpump and timing belt recommended every 50k)
Id like a skoda superb for an even bigger boot but im loathed to give up a no headache car, for a modern car and all the infotainment software issues.
If id didn't need quite so much space id buy a Toyota corolla sports wagon. Self charging hybrid, the boot is just slightly smaller than an octavia but still decent.
|
|
|
|
ive had various vehicles and vans over the years (including Estates) .... and I should add I am lucky enough to afford multiple vehicles (nice car, van and "fun car") and so my opinion will be slightly skewed by that.
Personally i would suggest buying a van as a second vehicle purely for fishing, work, tip run etc .... something you can afford to not be overly precious about. It is a game changer (i have had Berlingos and Experts .... both been great!) .... and then buy something else, that is nicer for for day to day. It opens up far more options then. I hated using my "nice" car for fishing etc.
If it has to be "one vehicle fits all", the most practical and best all rounder vehicle for fishing, family, days out etc I had was the Citroen Berlingo Multispace .... not great fun to drive and not a great looker, but brilliant for everything else. The seats all came out and I could wheel a loaded barrow into the back (handles off) ....
I put the Berlingo Multispace ahead of any estate ive owned (including Volvo V70) .... Estates are practical for long stuff but have a low roof line so everything needs to be broken down before loading.
For a any newer vehicle, I wouldnt entertain diesel nowadays, . Old technology and soooo mny issues that causes problems that can cause big bucks, unless you go down the mapping route. I prefer hybrid as i use zero fuel for 85% of my trips. As soon as technology allows a bigger battery range and quicker charging i will go over go over to an EV.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #38
All those extras on the superb might help make your mind up.
Good sound system as well..
|
|
|
|
Thanks for all your suggestions, I have narrowed it down to - astra estate, Skoda superb, Octavia, all diesel, and my budget means all will have done around 100,000.
Seen two of them, just need to decide and stop being so indecisive.
|
|
|
|
|
Toyota Corolla hybrid Wagon, loads of room, reliable and 60 to the gallon.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #35
I didn't want to say it
|
|
| | | VLT | | Posts: 8954 | | |
|
In reply to Post #33
Ecoboom?
Engines in general are crap these days aren't they.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #33
Good lord no. Too unfashionable.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #32
I think the reason he had dpf issues was because he only drove 5 miles to work and back in it, absolutely not ideal for a dpf. He had the dpf cleaned twice on the driveway before he swapped it for ........ a ecoboost petrol Fiesta 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #31
Bought mine (66 plate) just before Covid. Apart from the usual tyres, brakes, fluids etc, it has never had a single problem. Fuel consumption is pants driving around town but on the open road it is fantastic. Probably the best car I have ever owned and still only 49k on the clock as im a home worker since covid and do less than 4k a miles a year. Also had my friend do the alloys and a few dinks in the bodywork so its looking pretty immaculate as well. Shame to get rid but i'd rather sell soon as been offered 10k for it.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #28
Our neighbour just got rid of his Kuga, constant dpf problems.
Electric is a joke for French trips. The guy at Peugeot tried to sell us the electric Rifter, said the range was near 300 miles, I asked about fully loaded motorway, he said just over 100 miles probably. I asked him if he'd buy one to go to France, 800-1000 miles, he just laughed 😅 and said no, not yet.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #29
Communal car park so unfortunately i have no way of plugging in, plus trips to france would be a mare.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #28
Kuga plug in
fair bit of room inside and without plugging in it does 55mpg as it self charges.
lots of my work trips are 200miles round trips with 120 ish of that on motorways
|
|
|
|
|
Ford Kuga diesel. Brilliant car. Looking at getting a hybrid soon.With a roof box i get 2 loads of gear in for france trips.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #26
I think Peugeot got it really right with the design of the Expert, some of the customs look nicer than Transporters which were until then top of my list.
VLT re the Adblue fault, our Rifter had 17000 on the clock when we bought it, now 51000, and the adblue injector has gone twice, luckily both times under warranty. Really disapppointed with that to be honest, and each time Peugeot tried to charge me for a diagnostic, even though I could show them the code and recorded live data showing the emissions increasing over time as the injector blocked. Peugeot knew about a design fault and changed the design of the injector, or so they told me, as it had a different part number to the original.
The 1st time ours went it popped up with 1700 miles to no start, then the next day it was 50 the second time it was 500 miles. I said to the Mrs imagine if we were in France on a fishing holiday.
You are right, you can have the Adblue coded out and given a cost of near £500 each time a injector goes (diag & injector) and cost of hire car in our case, if that goes every few years it would be more than worth it at sub £250. Naturally there are other concerns, legality, more emissions. Not to mention Peugeot saying they couldn't do it for 6 weeks.
Makes me laugh though, each time you need to buy adblue it comes in a great big plastic vat . I wonder what the chemical offset of the vat is compared to the emissions saved
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #22
When I eventually pull the trigger I think I’m going to go for a 2020ish expert. The 2.0 diesel have the bigger chain, the professional has a few toys too like car play too.
|
|
| | | VLT | | Posts: 8954 | | |
|
In reply to Post #24
I almost went for the new style rifter / berlingo but there wasn't that much legroom for the middle row passengers and the Galaxy was a bit more luxury. Also heard a couple of stories about the adblue systems failing on the Peugeot / Citroen. Can be easily rectified or even coded out though I believe.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #23
We used to have a VW Sharan, when the Galaxy/Alhambra/Sharan were all made in the same place. Without a doubt my favourite fishing car, as you say loads of loads room.
From there we went Berlingo, mine will be 20 years old next year, and now we have a Peugeot Rifter too.
@ AndyCarper, not even safe with a Toyota now, even the Proace uses the PSA engine A lot of folk say if T are happy the 1.5 BHdi must be sorted....hmm.
There are conversion kits for the 7mm PSA timing chain, if you have the older one. There are also garages specialising in rebuilt PSA bhdi engines. Same re the BMW diesels.
|
|
| | | VLT | | Posts: 8954 | | |
|
In reply to Post #22
I got a 2019 Ford Galaxy Titanium X diesel with very low miles. Seats are very practical and it is absolutely massive so I use a motorcycle ramp and wheel the barrow straight in and out.
|
|
|
|
Anything with a wet belt should be avoided for obvious reasons - 1.2 puretec, ecoboost. Avoid 1.5 blue hdi's as they have a chain that fails - thank fords partnership with stellantis for this - stronger chain fitted from feb 2023.
VW group cars have never had great reliability since dropping the 1.9tdi pd - 1.6 diesels have a long list of issues. DSG gearboxes have so many seriously expensive failures their best avoided.
Earlier Citroen automated manual dcf5 boxes should be avoided. Later DCF6 boxes much more reliable.
So, what does that leave? 1.6hdi belt engine cars have good reliability, Renault dci engines seem to be relatively good reliability.
It really is a minefield for a decent vehicle, going with an German brand doesn't necessarily give you better quality/reliability but visually they have many fanboys. Merc Citan's are rebadged Kangoo's so they are a good shout if you want a van.
Whatever you go with good luck, just get a decent warranty and you have some comfort if it does go wrong. Personally I'm gutted by the 1.5bluhdi having so many issues as I was looking to get a mid sized van with this engine, I'm now looking at a Renault Trafic 2.0 dci instead, if I can suss out what Merc Vito engines are good I may look at that as an option too.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1
I was looking at an Octavia Scout as "normal" estate cars have stupidly low ground clearance these days and I live in France so need to go down dodgy tracks. Prices seemed very high 2nd hand though and availability was poor (it was the post covid period). I got a new Dacia Jogger instead, it's perfect for fishing, plenty of space, and i'm not botherered about getting it dirty.
Not a fun drive at all though and obviously "naff", just depends if you like cars and driving or just want a tool for a job.
I think (am hoping !) Dacias tend to be fairly reliable as they re-use old and proven designs.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #19
What the hell are you taking with you 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #17
I find this quite embarrassing as I have an A4 Avant and was looking to change as there wasn’t enough space 🤦🏼
Great car with excellent mpg too
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #17
I got a Mitsubishi Outlander. Not an estate granted but brilliant.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #15
On my second Audi A4 estate at the moment, the 2.0 TDi version.
The previous one was still going strong at 180k and I only got rid of it because it wasn't ULEZ compliant. Great build quality with loads of stuff as standard, never let me down and I did 160k in it.
Loads of room in the back with the seats down (even with them up the boot is huge) and decent fuel economy too, especially on long motorway runs.
|
|
|
|
I've a Mondeo estate and considered loads of alternatives, eventually decided to go with a Superb estate. Only slight concern is that the rear seats don't fold flat but even bigger than the Mondeo.
My 2nd choice was a Ford Grand Tourneo Connect
|
|
|
|
|
Thanks for all your replys, plenty to think about
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #13
i've got an octavia, get all my stuff in for a week and still get 55-60mpg on adaptive cruise, will most likely get the newer shape once it gets to 100k miles other than service items has had both front shocks, alternator and a glow plug replaced so not bad for 8 year / 90k mile car.
|
|
|
|
|
Volvo V70 before Ford got hold of them. Huge rear space and my 2.4D still does 55 to the gallon.
|
|
|
|
|
Passat Alltrack or Subaru Outback. Both 4x4 and tough as old boots, with good build quality and reliability.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #8
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1
Depends what your budget is and if buying new or second hand
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #5
Second this. Golf or Passat estates are perfect👍🏻
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #7
Add a leaky egr cooler.....I didn't even mention the bmws
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #6
The dreaded wet belt (and chain on some models) is because of the PSA engine and its not just restricted to those makes, the engine is used in others too. The BMW diesel engine is also quite poor, plastic timing chain guides...who in their right mind
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #3
I'd 3rd this
I have some fleet responsibility at work. We mainly use Audi, skoda, volvo, bmw, Vauxhall and Peugeot
Octavia is a good option if the superb is a bit much, still has loads of space. These do suffer with water pumps that are made from soft cheese but otherwise seem ok. I'd have a superb as a fishing car in a heartbeat
Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citroën are all the same thing now (stellantis) and use the dreaded wet belt on a lot of their cars so be very wary if you go down that route (we've had one go at 35,000 miles despite it having 4 oil services). Their gearboxes are also prone to failure and their infotainment is quite bug ridden. Their hybrids seem fairly resilient
Volvo are unfortunately a shadow of what they were. If you are going for an older one, a D5 V70 is a truly great and cavernous car but we have endless problems with all of their newer models (V60s, 90's and the XC equivalent)
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1
Anything from the VW group, Passat, Superb, Octavia, Leon. You can't go wrong.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #3
Agreed, I loved mine, big space and good drive / experience
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #2
Skoda superb estate
Massive boot, lovely to drive..
🚘
|
|
|
|
|
I have just bought a 23 reg Vauxhall Astra Sports Tourer. Best car I have ever had (and I have had a fair few!). Loads of space and so economical - in fact it does the same mpg as any diesel I have owned. Highly recommended although they are not an easy car to find!
|
|
|
|
My old vauxhall estate has finally died, any advice on other cars suitable for fishing and family stuff, or ones to avoid.
Almost certainly need another estate vehicle, it will be used.
Tia.
|
|
