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In reply to Post #22
Agreed. And if we’re that bothered, probably best to unhook in the net and not remove from the water at all.
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In reply to Post #20
I disagree that retainers are a shocker. What you're referring to is misuse of retainers (which I agree with, obviously). Retainers are valuable for big fish imo. Almost any kit can be misused. Doesn't mean the kit is at fault.
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In reply to Post #20
100% 
The only good use for a floating retainer is transferring a bigger than average fish from the water to the mat while still in the net. It supports the fish better than just lifting a bigger fish in the net, less chance of tail damage should the fish get slightly folded.
Then transfer back to the water, and release, NOT RETAIN...
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In reply to Post #2
Floating retainers are the worst product to ever been made, totally unsafe for the fish - designed for social media clowns to take daylight shots, so they can make videos for money and get likes on their pages - "gotta few bangers in the cells"...and the dawn shot of all the retainers lined up in the margins.
Putting an exhausted fish in the upper layer of the water column with hardly any oxygen is a joke. Some real gems have been lost in the Reading area due to this practice by so called legends and superstars whilst waiting for camera crews and the sun to be at full strength.
Keep the fish in the net (deep net like the ESP ones) sort your camera gear out. If you can't take night shots, get a grip and practice. This should all be done and dusted within 10 mins. The ******** you hear of "putting it in the sack to rest" is an excuse for a daylight shot. The fish will recover better swimming freely back in the lake.
****houses - all of em.
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In reply to Post #18
Once on a week in France the temp had been 40 deg the previous week and was for ours 2. The vast majority of the fish were holding virtually motionless about 12" under the surface, in 14' of water, nearer the dam end. Was very frustrating but so is life.
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In reply to Post #12
Arrrrr, fishing in the heat is one, burn him
I’ve been walking the dog on an evening on, a water where the fish rarely show, seen a few laid up just under the surface, loads of bream, especially where the water runs out, im thinking it must be more aerated, could be wrong? 
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In reply to Post #16
"I always keep my mat upside down so won’t get hot for the fish."
I wear mine on my head. It keeps me cool as well.
I do get the occasional funny look from the noddy's but I shrug it off.
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In reply to Post #15
Exactly this.
If you catch make sure everything is saturated and I always keep my mat upside down so won’t get hot for the fish.
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These days I go fishing once a month, even if it was 40 degrees I would still go and fish for them on that particular weekend in those conditions.
Just use your common sense, act according to the conditions and you will be fine.
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In reply to Post #13
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In reply to Post #12
Thanks for this link. Haven’t laughed at it for years until now
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In reply to Post #5
Burn him, he's a witch (well technically warlock), better than fishing.... see if Scozza floats
You forget, it's fish at all costs, as long as you get a great pic who cares if it's the last one.
In all seriousness it does worry me that there are people in our hobby who don't know if/when/or how to, retain in hot weather.
I see we have thunderstorm warnings too, classic deoxgenation crash weather
For those who are too young to know Monty Python, see here
LINKY POO™ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf71YotfykQ
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In reply to Post #5
100% . Earn some money, or another activity.
I can understand it if you booked the week off, but otherwise I just don't get it.
Also, regarding spawning. Fishing post spawning is just as bad as fishing while they spawn.
They need 3 or 4 days at least.
Good post though Baitman.
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In reply to Post #4
Stop fishing as said , can imagine the moaning if fisheries installed aeration systems and passed the install and running costs on to the anglers.
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In reply to Post #7
Agreed
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In reply to Post #5
Precisely.
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In reply to Post #4
I don't think the contradiction you refer to is not quite as it seems. I read it as let the fish recover in the landing net but then don't put it in a retainer sling for half an hour whilst you call your mates round for photos and get the rod back out again.
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In reply to Post #5
Agree with this - invariably poor anyway in silly hot conditions. . . have a BBQ and paint the shed instead!
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In reply to Post #4
How about stopping the fishing for a while 
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In reply to Post #2
At this time of year all fisheries should have some form of aeration system.
They bitch on about it but do very little to avoid this yearly issue.
Not sure where your first post comes from but it contradicts itself.
After netting leave it in the net to recover. Then don't retain it for a long period as its not good for the fish.
Simple answer is fishery owners spend the money to look after your assets. You would not own a grocery shop and not have fridges and freezers to keep the appropriate items in.
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Good reminder.
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In reply to Post #1
Anyone taking any special precautions in this hot weather regarding fish retaining....
I'd suggest that any retaining should be stopped.
Leave the fish in the net to recover for a while.
Have the fish returned within 10 minutes.
Do not allow that rod to be recast until fish has been safely returned.
Any other suggestions 😎
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We are approaching a period of extremely high temperatures. It is imperative that all members understand the severe impact this can have on the aquatic environment.
🌡️ EXTREME HEAT ADVISORY
The water in ANY lake will experience a significant decrease in dissolved oxygen levels due to the much warmer weather. This danger is compounded in weedy lakes and at a time when fish are already vulnerable after spawning.
💔 THE SILENT KILLER
In these conditions, carp can easily perish if they are over-handled or retained. Almost every time this occurs, the captor is blissfully unaware of the fatal consequences. The fish may swim away, but it will often die a slow death later. While carp are incredibly resilient, they are not indestructible.
This is not an attempt to spoil your enjoyment; it is a critical appeal to raise awareness on an often-overlooked issue that has potential life-or-death
consequences for our fish.
Please adhere to the following essential guidelines whenever these conditions are present:
* ** IMMEDIATE RECOVERY IN THE WATER** ❗
* DO NOT remove the fish from the water immediately after a prolonged fight. Allow it at least 5 minutes to recover in the net. This is not a suggestion; it is a necessity.
* 💧 FRESH, COOL WATER ONLY
* Ensure you have a bucket of fresh lake water. DO NOT use water that has been left standing on the bank, as it will be significantly warmer and deoxygenated. Use this fresh water generously at every stage of the weighing and photography process. The more water, the better.
* 🚫 ZERO RETENTION POLICY
* DO NOT retain carp for any significant length of time. This includes "waiting for sunrise." A retained carp is already under extreme stress, and confining it to a low-oxygen environment is often a death sentence. This practice kills hundreds of carp annually without the captor's knowledge.
* 💪 ENSURE A STRONG RELEASE
* Give the fish all the time it needs to recover before release. DO NOT let it go until you are 100% certain it is strong enough to swim off powerfully. If you have any concerns about its recovery, gently agitate the water around the fish's head to ensure a steady flow of fresh, oxygenated water over its gills.
* 🩹 TREAT ALL WOUNDS
* Treat every hook hold and any lifted scales. This is a fundamental aspect of fish care at all times of the year.
A Final, Serious Note:
The rules regarding hooks, leaders, bait, lead clips etc etc are insignificant compared to the fish care directives outlined above., I can assure you that poor handling on the bank causes a thousand times more harm to carp than any tackle-related
I trust in your ability to fish responsibly and care for our stock. I will therefore take it as a personal failure if this trust is misplaced.
Please, at all times, treat these fish with the absolute utmost respect. Their lives are in your hands.
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