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In reply to Post #31 Honey or Molasses are great sweeteners - I've used them both in Trop and they've worked well
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In reply to Post #31 I prefer the anhydrous betaine.
Nhdc is a great sweetener, but combining 2 sweeteners will carry the sweet taste much further.
So, combine both I would say
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Iv emailed them last week to see if spice and Paprika included
No reply yet week later ,
So iv added Paprika and Betaine and few other bits to aa baits list ,
Whats the best Betaine hcl or Anhydrous
And whats a good alternative to BAF B sweetener
Aa baits do Creamy B+ and NHDC sweetener not sure if these will work or not
The fruit part think i go with john bakers plum and maybe ala solar
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In reply to Post #29 ah ok , no worries , will do
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In reply to Post #28 It’s not the BAF recipe, it’s the HMBB recipe.
Let me know how it rolls please
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In reply to Post #27 not yet no , life keeps getting in the way , glad really as would like to add the spices & betaine as per the baf recipe , have those bits in basket with aa baits
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In reply to Post #26 Have you tried rolling it yet.?
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In reply to Post #25 thought so , tried a little bit , no hint of spice at all ,getting the fishmeals though
asked the wife for a second opinion ,got declined
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In reply to Post #24 Last time I ordered some from them they hadn't - it was just the ingredients in the top half of the list
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In reply to Post #23 Ive have asked them to let you know
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In reply to Post #22 do you know if quality baits have added the paprika & chilli ? not listed in their ingredient list ,but dont want to add twice
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In reply to Post #17 Its the base mix that counts ,which is good , all it needs is rolling with or without a flavour and the other bits ,the best probably being the Paprika and the Chilli powder ,
As Dickweed says Garlic and Fenugreek is all it needs.
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In reply to Post #18 They were the liquids used in the original mix.
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In reply to Post #19 From memory you could buy it with or without liquids at some point.
I bought 10kg and it came with liquids... not sure if it was all them ones or not. All from BAF
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When I was purchasing 10 kg of Tropamino I didn’t recall it coming with liquids included.
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In reply to Post #17 If you didn't add the stuff in the second list it wouldn't be the Tropamino would it?
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If I was to use Tropamino again I would certainly buy the individual ingredients and put together myself.
Base mix plus garlic and fenugreek added at low levels. None of the other stuff in the second list.
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TROPAMINO, HMBB Group Bait, created 18/03/18
200 LT94
200 CLO
100 PDFM
100 Krill
50g WPC
50g Acid Casein
50g Rennet Casein
100 Semo
100 Full fat soya
50 Brocacel
Liquids Spice etc
20ml Salmon oil
40 ml Krill Hydro
40ml Liver Hydro
2 ml BAF Tropical fruit flavour
3ml BAF B sweetener
15g Chilli powder
15g Paprika
7g Betaine
8 small eggs
At 18mm 2 min boil
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In reply to Post #12 So what you are saying is if you want Tropamino go buy AA baits HNV then add to it and you will have something like it ,with no real idea the quantities of each ingredient included, I am sure this is a very satisfactory base mix, but not fulfilling the aim of the original concept where a base mix was put together by a group of anglers/bait makers so they knew chapter and verse, exactly what they were using.
Alternatively you can get the actual base mix ,which includes Krill meal ,made to the actual recipe that was posted on this forum some years ago , by Baitman from Qualitybaits using TOP Quality Krill meal which when mixed with eggs and a flavour then rolled and boiled without delay ,dose not float.
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If you’re worried. Add 50g per kg if limestone flour into the mix. They fly out with a stick then
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In reply to Post #12 There is always the possibility of floaters when using crustacean meals. It's probably an inconsistent product with some batches probably containing a greater proportion of buoyant shell meal. I found this out when I unwittingly substituted 6% of shrimp hydro powder with the same weight of shrimpshell powder. I knew something was amiss as soon I dropped them into the boiler and they instantly floated ! Managed to salvage the situation by freezing the dough and then later mixing it into a much heavier mix. It was a 5 KG mix, the ducks would have loved me 😂
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Had the same problem as Dickweed with the BAF Krill - you can have a look at the AA Baits HNV basemix, not identical but close and you need to add a few bits, for which they give you some suggestions
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In reply to Post #10 Cheers I have dabbled with trop in the past but don’t have the means to roll it anymore unfortunately and rolling companies seem to be a thing of the past now
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In reply to Post #9 You would have to ask Simon if he will do it ,
Main problem will be the amount you want doing I would think ?
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In reply to Post #7 Do quality baits sell this rolled at all?
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Last two batches I had for BAF floated. This was over two years ago. Quality baits stuff worked well.
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In reply to Post #6 just looked at the BAF site and it looks as though they are no longer selling the original recipe as they do not state Krill in the list of ingredients ,Krill being one of the most attractive ingredients you wonder what they have replaced it with and have to question is it Tropamino? So it appears that Qualitybaits is the place to go to if you want the Original base mix.
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In reply to Post #5 great , thanks for info ,
was aware of their patshull park mix but didnt realise they did a version of the trop
have ordered 5kg to give it a try , good price too
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In reply to Post #3 look at Krillamino at Qualitybaits ,same mix the Bait Buffs had a spaz attack when they made it.
but it was freely listed so have a look.
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In reply to Post #3 I’m not sure mate I stopped rolling once they went to commercial only so never looked.
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hi spike thanks for reply , yes am very happy with results on it so far , due to limited fishing time and mixes having a best before date was happier buying the 10 kilo bag that they did ,now have to buy 25k ,thats if i can get a trade account ( anyone applied for one ,are there any restictions/minimum orders? )
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In reply to Post #1 Because of the bulk they get it in at you’ll never compete getting 5-25kg bags.
The mix itself is very good.
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hi all ,
have had some good results and have enjoyed rolling my own baits with the mix from baf , now theyve geared themselves more to trade customers/larger amounts i thought id try to make up the basemix myself, but using the recipe that was posted on here a while back im. finding that works out a bit expensive , buying from aa baits the individual ingredients are working out nearly twice as much (depending on amount purchased ) . how can that be , is it just economies of scale or am i missing something ?
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