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In reply to Post #41
 you're not wrong!
@ Tinhead, probably, he was born before it was even invented and the pan looked as old as him,but him being old Dutch stock, until it resembled a Collander he'd keep using it
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In reply to Post #40
That would be the days before Teflon coatings. Whether that does damage when it starts to flake off I don't know.
I read somewhere that bottle water is bad for you, somewhere else that tap water is bad.
I don't know what to believe.
Red wine is supposed to be good for you. I think it is 
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In reply to Post #40
You need a bit of aluminium to bind together the micro plastic you ingest from the teabags. 👍😎
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In reply to Post #36
You watch, they'll change their minds again in 10 years 
My father used a ali pan for boiling brew water when we grew up, none of this modern fangled kettle stuff. You should have seen how pitted it was by the time he died... .I have absolutely no doubt we ingested the stuff...oh well.
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In reply to Post #35
Errm.. nah I don't think I'll bother.
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In reply to Post #24
Took the stove completely to bits and cleaned it all up when i got back home last night and it has the 45 jet in already. I didnt realise you can get service kits for them so ordered one of those and will give it a service.
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In reply to Post #34
I use the dutch ones and they are great.
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In reply to Post #33
That link turned out to be unfounded.
Just to be sure though don't drink from aluminium cans or use aluminium foil
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In reply to Post #32
Square in the face.. not a subscriber to his PPV Channel then...  
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In reply to Post #33
Proper mess tins are still stainless. Check out Dutch army.
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I stopped using mess tins once there appeared to be a link between aluminium and all sorts in the brain. The cook in a cup wasn't for me either, can't stand balti tea
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In reply to Post #28
I'm sooo behind the times aren't I.. Kettle's are for noddy's nowadays so it seems.
Poor old uncle. I'd share my kettle with him, square in the face. 
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I have gone through various stoves over the years and all have there disadvantages so have reverted back to a Go systems compact camping stove. No more balancing pans, no more requirements for flat ground etc and simmers a treat 👍
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In reply to Post #29
Mess tins are all i really use 👍🏻
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In reply to Post #28
Since early 70's I have used an US army surplus steel mug stamped 1954 to cook my food in and from early 80's a set of mess tins to cook in when I decided I wanted to cook a bit more food than what I could in a tin mug, but, I still occasionally cook in the mug when doing quick sessions.
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In reply to Post #16
Kettles are so last year... everyone's brewing up in anti social tin mugs these days.. Shelleys been doing it for years.. 
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In reply to Post #26
Yes got the tool, cheers 👍🏻 Cant believe I may have had the wrong jet in for 25 years 🤪
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In reply to Post #25
Yes the jets just screw in
Their should be a little tool that has the correct side end for the sole purpose of changing the jets
Mine does anyhow 👍
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In reply to Post #24
Cheers for that 👍🏻 Im in centre parcs at the minute but will have a look when im home. Ive had it I would say 25 years. It has two valves. A black plastic one that goes on top of canister and a one that looks like a huge safety pin at the stove end. Ive just ordered a 0.45 jet just incase i havent got that one in as no idea where the ones that came with it will be after 25 years. Ive defo got the jet tool in the pouch as seen that last time. I take it the jets just screw in and out?
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In reply to Post #23
The jet sizes are: -
"""Jet 45 is for cartridge gas, jet 37 for white gas and unleaded petrol, and Jet 28 for kerosene, diesel oil and similar fuels."""
The jet size is stamped on the jet itself.
Does yours have the two fuel taps on it?
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In reply to Post #22
I dont use the bottle i use gas canisters. Mine definitely dosent do simmering. Im not sure what jet is in as its been in for 25 years 😀 I havent really used it that much in that time though.
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I have used a Primus Omnifuel for years and I have had no issues simmering whatsoever. I have just looked now at reviews of the "Omnifuel" and all reviewers state no issues with simmering. Apart from the odd review stating its not too good for simmering, most reviewers claim it is one of the best features being able to simmer with it.
Basically all I do is, pump it up, open the fuel valve on the bottle full, then open the valve at the burner end and light it, then when it is burning properly with a blue flame, pump it up more and just adjust the heat output with the valve at the burner end.
The key is, to ensure it is well pumped up, and also, yours does have the two control knobs as I also have a multifuel which only has the one knob. Also are you using the right fuel jet on the burner to match the fuel you are using as gas and liquid fuel etc are different, is the jet clear and not partially blocked?
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In reply to Post #18
Cheers everyone and cheers vossy. Those caps are quite pricey mind at £65 without postage. I bought a primus easy fuel stove as it had £40 off so got it for £60. Will use the omni fuel for boiling kettles.
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In reply to Post #19
I like Solos extendable lighter, proper bit of kit, great for lighting the stove with the pan/kettle on it.
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In reply to Post #1
Have a look at the Soto fusion trek, beautifully made with a.really fine adjustment
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In reply to Post #1
Before changing your stove have you had a look at damper caps for your own stove.
My MSR Dragonfly is probably near 30 years old and it was a swine to get a really low simmer on, exact same problem as you. There was a chap in America traded under the name Bernidawg or something very similar (see youtube). He started making 'damper caps' because of the problem we've had and believe me they work, they work very very well, and make the stove far quieter and give it a much greater lower range, almost down to nothing. When I bought my newer Primus Omnilite Ti the 1st thing I got for it was a damper cap.
There are other people making them cheaper now if you have a look around, this link will give you the idea. If you check the vids on YouTube you'll be surprised how much difference these caps make. Link to original cap
LINKY POO™ https://i.materialise.com/en/shop/item/berniedawg-omnidawg-for-primus-omnifuelstove
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I use the mini as well,just remember to make or get a small windshield or the burner uses up fuel fast ,also with a mini ,when the fuel gets low in the burner ,it turns into hyper mode ,the meths will boil and bubble very fast it's because the oxygen cannot get around the small alloy pot holder,like it can on the 27 or 25 sizes ..
27 is best ,reason ,is ,its non marking ,more stable and can be used direct on a groundsheet, you can't do that with 28t mini..
Another idea ,is get a Trangia triangle ,and trangia burner,that way you can build your own mega lightweight system ,using titanium cups to boil or cook on ,and or the superb mini mess kits plus the Triangle allows the gas burner to be used if needed..
All things considered,the whole Trangia system that's including the additional sets like the mini tundra system is very good ..
27 vs 28t....27 wins ,but I love and use em both they are great for different reasons..
Trangia website is definately worth looking at ,get an engraved windshield of carpy green shields all sorts
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In reply to Post #15
It sounds perfect mate & minimal too. I hadn't thought about doing it that way instead. 
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In reply to Post #13
Got a titanium mug to boil water no need for kettle
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Depends on size etc. The Cadac Safari 2 HP will go low. I have a few stoves and always fall back to my safari chef. So versatile can do anything from bbq to cooking to even making pizzas. Folds up to an acceptable size as well in its bag for transport. Honestly no stove comes close.
If you are looking for something smaller the Ridgemonkey quad mini is a decent bit of kit
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In reply to Post #11
The mini set looks really good value & you get the non stick pan too.
I ended up getting the standard 27 because I wanted the Trangia kettle but the mini really does look like a no brainer.
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In reply to Post #1
Bulin T4 will do this, I simmer my boil in the bag rice for 12 minutes no problem, they are cheap and excellent for the money, I'm on my second in 10 years 👍
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In reply to Post #8
I got a trangia mini and use bio great little stove a hell of a lot slower than my jetboil but the jetboil gas is very expensive and is no good in the cold no pressure
I had the larger trangia in the 80s when there was 2 of us never had a problem theres nothing to go wrong so the mini is fine for me on my own I think I paid £28 for it and easy to get bio b & q ect
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One love to Trannies..!
It sounds relevant in today's world...
Ps,don't forget yr Kernow Bushcraft waxed bag ,they excellent on ebay place..
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I can simmer on my multi fuel cooker
It’s knowing how to use it properly to get simmer function
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In reply to Post #5
"Hold your heads high fellow meths ,bio or gas conversion men for the heathens know not what they miss.."
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It's honestly one of the best items of "tackle" I've purchased.
It will last a lifetime as it's so well made & it's clever design means you have everything you need in one compact package - which I really like as I hate carting lots of cr*p around.
The fuel is cheap & readily available + you don't need to worry about it freezing up in the winter.
You might have to wait a couple of extra minutes to boil a kettle but who cares, what's the rush, were fishing at the end of the day, it's 99% patience!
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In reply to Post #5
I am a Trangia convert
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In reply to Post #4
Trangias are the best all round carping stove bar none .. not ridiculous at all,...
The new storm gas conversion is brilliant, it can be simmered very very low ,or in my case I use a simmer ring ..
One thing I hope to see is the guys at Trangia adopt the granite finish on the cookware and add a 27 deeper fry pan ,the same as the 25 size
Hold your heads high fellow meths ,bio or gas conversion men for the heathens know not what they miss..
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I'll probably be ridiculed but consider a Trangia.
There I said it.
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Maybe have a look at your pan?
Most camping style pans are thin walled for weight reduction so the heat radiates quickly through without much control. Proper kitchen pans have a thicker bottom and walls so it’s easier to keep the heat under control even with a stove which is designed to be a bit vicious.
A compromise is to get a set of cheap kitchen pans( Tesco do a set) and take the handles off and get a pan grip for camping pans. Best of both worlds.
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In reply to Post #1
Bulin “
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Anyone recommend a good stove that can go really low and simmer things for 15 mins as my 25 year old faithful primus omni fuel stove is way to powerful and everything just starts boiling straight away which is great for boiling kettles and soup but no good for simmering a curry for 15 mins. Ive tried turning it down but just goes out. Would prefer to stick with a proper brand like msr or primus as found the fishing manufacturers one crap.
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