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In reply to Post #183
Doctor 
I will rephrase it, hard physical graft.
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Not many Doctors or Engineers round my way, but Deliveroo, just eat, uber, amazon, yodel, all the fast food chains, petrol stations, farms, pretty much any low lage/low skill job is done by someone with broken English at best, i assume because of the language barrier most are 1st generation immigrants. All those mega corporations making money off cheap labour sure aren't going to like less immigration. Maybe that's why they lobby the government and give them gifts. Hell, the last government even made the founder of Just Eat our 'Cost of living Tzar'
The whole system is rotten to the core. We can't vote our way out of this.
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In reply to Post #182
I’m sick to the back teeth of what’s going off pal. One big piss take 
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In reply to Post #179
First time I’ve heard a doctor’s job referenced for a lack of hard work. What do you do for a living?
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In reply to Post #181
No, nothing wrong with my bias 😀
More positive things to look forward to - fishing
Those that feel the need to continue enjoy 👍🏼
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In reply to Post #180
And the reason being?
Touching on something that does not suit your bias Jase?
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I think we all need to put the debating aside and go fishing 👍🏼 ✌️
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In reply to Post #131
We have imported the third world’s problems here. These are middle east problems. NOT British problems... NOT UNTILL we imported the third world here.
Never such a true word said
The simple thing is they will never be able to contribute to our society. Their country’s are a reflection of their people and their cultures. Light years behind ours, all these illegals are just littering the streets, they cannot and will not be able to contribute to our society and “fit in”
Let’s face it, the Pakistani community as a whole cannot really integrate into our society, they are creating their own culture, Mosque building etc. In Bradford historically they all worked in the mills, which have now gone, they are taxi drivers, shop or curry house owners as a whole. A lot are getting educated and going into professional positions, dentists, doctors, lawyers, engineers, it’s not hard graft, easy money and that’s why they do it. You won’t find them where there is any hard graft. Where I live it’s pit villages and there are none and that’s the reason why. I spent some time at Huddersfield university and it was like spot the white man, the majority of the classes were Asian, these will be filling all these former mentioned positions in the future. We are on the verge of being white trash in our country!
So regardless of the Pakistani population in the UK, what are all these illegals going to do other than turn to crime and milk our system even more. All these adults at the top knew what they were doing when they opened the flood gates, I just hope it all backfires on them all, and personally. It’s the normal folk living amongst these scum and communities that’s in danger 
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"The current Israeli government believes in Greater Israel, this not just the Land from Palestine/gaza/westbank it also covers syria, Jordan Lebanon and Egypt."
Just look at the Israeli flag, the 2 blue lines represent the rivers Nile and Euphrates with the star of David between. So from Egypt all the way to and including Iraq .
As for the birth of Israel in 1940s as an ancestral home for persecuted Jews..not true , there are pretty much no Israeli people with ancestral ties to the "promised" land, they are all European and Slavic peoples. That's why DNA based genealogy is banned in Israel.
Zionism and Israel goes back further than that.look up the 1917 Balfour declaration. Further back than that the whole ideology was constructed by the Rosthchilds in the mid to late 1800's just as the the potential for vast oil reserves were being discovered in the region. In short Israel was concieved as the western oligarchys attack dog in the middle east and Persian gulf. This was the beginning of the fall of the British empire and the start of the rise of the American empire.
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I feel people don't understand why i think Zionism is completely incompatible with British values, and why it is a threat.
Zionism fundamentally is a political ideology that says Jewish people have the right to a Nation in their ancestral homeland.
I agree with that statement at face value, but what is their Ancestral homeland? According to the bible, the land that God promised to Abraham it's pretty much most of the Middle East. The modern state of Israel was created in 1948 and has been at war trying to expand ever since. The current Israli government believes in Greater Israel, this not just the Land from Palestine/gaza/westbank it also covers syria, Jordan Lebanon and Egypt.
Iran is the only military in the middle east with the capabilities to stop Israel from expanding further, however, the USA is a strong ally of Israel. This is why they want regeime change in Iran.
The USA is about to get dragged into yet another war on behalf of Israel. Yet another war in the middle east that will displace yet more immigrants into Europe, and drive up prices on everything, especially fuel.
Suporting the current state of Israel, does not help the UK in any way, it makes us less safe. Nobody in our government, or regulatory body's should be in support of beliefs that are damaging to the core values of the UK.
So why do SO many of our politicians explicitly support the state of Israel?
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In reply to Post #174
Criticising political records or regulatory philosophy is fair game; focusing on ethnicity, religion, or using guilt-by-association with people like Tony Blair or Peter Mandelson isn’t.
If keir Starmer was raising his kids as Muslims, it would be all over GB news 24h a day, it would be all over social media, and probably mentioned in this thread. "We're a Christian country!!!!"
Yet nobody talks about him raising his kids Jewish.
I agrees what difference does it make what religion he raises his kids, or who he's married to, but you must agree there are double standards at play here.
We don't talk enough about Jewish/Israeli influence in our politics, because people are terrified of being labeled an anti-semite. You can slag off muslims as much as you like though.
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There’s currently no official confirmation of who will be appointed
Regarding her history of cover ups, like a lot of things that get said where is evidence ? YouTube ?
Criticising political records or regulatory philosophy is fair game; focusing on ethnicity, religion, or using guilt-by-association with people like Tony Blair or Peter Mandelson isn’t.
I’m sure Ofcom will do the necessary due diligence
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The front runner to be the next Chair of Ofcom, the person who will decide what is allowed to be shown on the TV, radio and online, is Baroness Hodge. An 81yr old Egyptian Zionist secular Jew.
She has a history of covering up child sexual abuse, including Savilles victims. A member of the Fabian society, member of LFI, she used to work for Tony Blair, and Mandelson, in fact she campaigned with Mandelson in 2024.
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In reply to Post #171
I think you missed, my point which was a reply to a previous post. For the avoidance of doubt, violence towards women and the abuse of children is a male problem. Not culture, not race, not colour...
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In reply to Post #169
I don’t follow the largest ethnicity in the uk is white, if you take that into the correct context they are probably the same.
If you work in child protection you should know ethnicity is not a cause of abuse — it’s influenced by social, economic and interpersonal factors, and abuse occurs in all communities.
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In reply to Post #169
But is that because white British are the worst offenders, or because other entnicities/nationalities haven't reported it as much?
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In reply to Post #133
I work in child protection. The majority of women and children are abused by husbands, fathers, step fathers, brothers, grandfathers and/or family friends.
I also sit on a weekly panel where domestic abuse cases are discussed. The majority of those cases are white British families in a large town in the north west with a significant ethnic population.....
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In reply to Post #164
Just promise me that my algorithm will not turn into FreePalestine videos at every turn afterwards mate
Not a chance....you wouldn't believe who runs Google and YouTube 
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In reply to Post #163
Naa i appreciate your input. I think my way of thinking is completely incompatible with yours though i couldn't care less what anyone else wants to do. I think the country has more than enough money to give everyone a universal basic income. Not everyone wants to be a 'slave to the system' if some people want to doss about and not "succeed" i think they should have that right in life.
If you wanted to live a life above the basic standard, you can put as much effort in as you want, and get as rich as you want. But who is defining success? Is it successful to work 90 hours a week for your life and die in a solid gold coffin, or is it successful to spend 90 hours a week with your friends, family and raising your kids.
Elon Musk is a big fan of UBI, which doesn't really fit his usual politics, he is backing Rupert Lowe. So wonder how that idea will go down.
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In reply to Post #161
Quote...
As for the import of immigrants to get taxes....they'd need jobs, and last time I heard only a very small percentage of them had jobs (14%)
That's right now. But they do produce 12 kids per family, not 1 or at a push 2 like white/black British couples these days.
In my humble opinion it's about the long game for the elites. World domination has always been about numbers.... The Chinese are becoming the new superpower, because of numbers.
That is the model I think they want to replicate. White man across Europe is not doing it in terms of reproducing. The people that are being allowed to come here/Europe en masse, they do have lots of kids. I could be totally wrong, but that's my guess.
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In reply to Post #159
I will add it to my download list on YouTube Sam. Will watch it on the plane. SamBarley gave me the details to download a couple of his podcasts yesterday.
Just promise me that my algorithm will not turn into FreePalestine videos at every turn afterwards mate 
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In reply to Post #162
I hope this doesn't sound 'anti' because I have enjoyed reading your posts on this thread, they have given me a couple of slightly different things to think about.
So in answer to your question: Yes, it would be nice for everyone to earn more and have a better standard of living. All for that.
Thing is, the vast majority of people don't want to put in the effort it takes to be successful. Most want to do as little as possible and point fingers and be jealous of anyone doing well for themselves.
Under Labour the number of dossers has gone up. Why would they work when they can get free handouts?
It seems we are making the same point with reference to these elites (corporations) wanting to be mega rich whilst the other 95% of people are scraping by.
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In reply to Post #161
Instead of several billionaires paying a large proportion of the tax, don't you think it would be better if that wealth was a little more equal? Instead if obscene profits for corporations, we could have higher wages, and in turn, we could all pay more tax AND have more money.
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Socialism is a race to the bottom.
And as an example of billionaires leaving the UK to avoid tax:
Nik Storonksy (Revolut founder)
Estimated tax per year £2.5 to £3.5 billion
Average UK households tax £14k to £18k
So that would be anywhere from 40 to 60 YEARS for 4,000 households to make up that tax loss.
That's one billionaire.
As for the import of immigrants to get taxes....they'd need jobs, and last time I heard only a very small percentage of them had jobs (14%)
That figure may be off, but the underlying story there is that the import of low paid workers isn't going to make the country better off.
My own feeling on 'everything' that's going on, it feels as though we have been through some good times this century and the elites don't like it. It feels to me as though they think we all need to go back to being poorer, with less choice whilst they do whatever they want (and they're rolling in money thanks to back handers and making us all 'slaves' again)
Even that Polanksi retard let slip on TV when talking about immigrants and said something along the lines of "I don't know about you but I don't want to wipe someone's bum". Dropped the ever-so-caring touchy-feely mask there.
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In reply to Post #158
Blair started it.
Are you starting to see the pattern yet?
Tony Blair, who took us into an illigal war, because of lies told by Israel, and now Tony Blair isgetting involved in "rebuilding" gaza. Tony Blair who worked with Mandelson. It's always all the same people, and they all care about Israel more than us.
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In reply to Post #158
Please do me a favour and see what you think of this, it's only 15 mins. Being against Israel doesn't mean you need to support Palestinians, you can hate both of them. It's not a pro palestine video, it's just a report about what started the war.
https://youtu.be/-mxfnya3ZRc?is=pN0Lpl6kItkKpZU2
If you watch this, ask why did my government spread these lies, why does my government continue to support the regime and use our RAF to help them. Why are they giving our individual politicians cash, and why does anyone who speaks out about them get sacked off?
We are occupied. Not as bad as Australia or the US, but it's only time.
Palantir, big company you may have heard of, just won a contract to get ALL of our NHS data. The same company has been using its AI tech in gaza to tell drones who to target, using facial recognition to decide who lives and who dies.
I dont want ANY foreign government to be able to lobby our government and Influence decisions that affect me. I don't want foreign tech companies like Palentir given my details. This should be scary to anyone, not just the "pink hairs"
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In reply to Post #156
I don't think that it is the fault of the immigrants Sam whatsoever. The fault lies with the people who govern us. They want this to happen. Otherwise it would not be happening. It is so easy to stop. They are allowing it, some would say they are encouraging it. All young men. It's because we are not breeding enough. Our population is aging, whilst no one is having kids anymore. This in my opinion is all being done very deliberately. For future tax gains.
The problem is, the people who are coming are not doctors & engineers. This has been a Europe wide agenda. Not just here. Mainly fed by socialist governments across Europe.
Blair started it. At the start of the internet pretty much. The stupid Tories then followed his lead. They are all controlled by others, not us. It's never been the will of the British people. I am to disinterested in it all to know or understand who is behind it all, or why. All I know is that the UK is changing at an incredibly fast pace.
Diversity was a great strength, at one time... But now we need to wake up to the fact that we have an increasing population from third world countries. That brings with it third world problems. Many of whom do not like us, or even our way of life. They are here for monetary reasons. That's not racist, that's fact.
I am sick of hearing about Palestine if you want the honest truth. The pink haired people should go there instead of protesting here. They would be thrown from the nearest high rise roof. That's the reality of the situation. In our society nowadays reality does not seem to matter. PC matters. Words like 'racist' are banded around as weapons to shut people up. We disappeared up our own backsides.
All the left are doing in the UK, are pushing the population towards right wing parties en masse. The complete opposite of what they should be doing. I honestly don't think that Labour will get into power again in our lifetimes. Things are about to change politically in the UK imo.
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In reply to Post #156
I know exactly which ones they went for. Crack cocaine for carp, mice, slugs & snails.
Those electric pest/mice deterrents that I put on here a couple of years ago are the ABSOLUTE bowlocks.
Got better versions. Never seen a rodent since. My missus, her mothers house the other side of world was infested with mice. They keep lots of livestock & the mice wanted the livestocks food. I got her two packs of two & some UK plug adapters. In nine months the mother in law has not seen a single mouse since they left. Her barns had been infested for twenty years.
They are literally the best thing since sliced bread.
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In reply to Post #155
Do you think white English people are being put first in the UK Sam?
Absolutely not. That's been my whole point this whole time.
I think fundamentally we are both somewhat similar in our arguments, but your stance is that Immigrants are causing the issues, and my stance is that rich people and foreign influence is behind the influx of immigrants. I think immigration has been weaponised by a corrupt system, I think immigration is caused by our politicians, who are being paid by lobby groups, and being used as a distraction.
Totally unrelated Mark, but i have a big box of pop ups in the shed, 50 pots or so, loads of them from companies that no longer exist, probably a retirement fund in there lol, anyway, mouse ate the lid of ONE pot. Can guess what that pot was?
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In reply to Post #154
Do you think white English people are being put first in the UK Sam?
We now have openly admitted two tier sentencing & policing. We lock up more white English people for socials posts than China & Russia combined & they dwarf us. Both are communist.
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In reply to Post #153
Zionists are Jews Sam
That's incorrect. Not all Jews are zionists, and not all zionists are Jews. There are LOADS of Christian zionists. Holocaust survivors are out every week protesting against zionism in the UK.
Forget all this left wing right wing thing. Its just there to devide us. Don't dismiss things because you believe they are "left wing"
China is anti zionist. Israel has no control over them, so just goes to prove how well a country can do when it puts its own people first.
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In reply to Post #152
Quote... Have you read a thing I've written? It's not about jews. It's about zionists/Israel. They have control of the people in this country with power. They are all obsessed with Israel, and defending Israel.
It's hard to have a convo with three of you at the same time, whilst trying to work at the same time Sam. That's all.
I respect all three of your opinions. Even if I think that most of it is just diversionary away from the real problems. Zionists are Jews Sam.
Are Zionists making the Muslims do what I wrote in the 'go to China & do it post'?
Of course they are not mate. I have no doubts what you are saying is true. But I also believe that what you said to me... Your left wing social media is showing you constant anti Jew rhetoric. It must be. As ALL left wingers speak the same about the Jews (Zionists).
I don't follow any political figures so my socials is a broad mix really. I see it all. I don't just see right wing stuff. The UK is in big trouble. Burying our heads in the sand will not make this go away.
None of you answered about the 1000+ millionaires who left last year & the swathes that will be leaving this year. Who's going to pay the tax? You do realise it's the top few % who pay 80%+ of it? Is it the Zionists making them all leave too?
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In reply to Post #151
Last great prime minister this country had was Margret Thatcher.
We gave away our manufacturing. We make zero now. We sold all our energy companies to foreign enteties.
Literally margret Thatcher did that. She took us from a country of production to a service based economy.
I'm intrerested in resolving the problems in the UK... Not the middle east.
Yes. So why is Matt Goodwin, a 'patriot', and every other politician so interested in the wellbeing of Israel. Why aren't they putting England first?
Every time I hear that Corbyn fella he is going on about the Jews. C
Yes, every time YOU hear corbyn, is when it's curated to you on your social media or news feed. Are you going out and listening to everything he is saying?
have. But I am a realist. I don't understand the fixation with the Jews regarding the UK's big problems.
Have you read a thing I've written? It's not about jews. It's about zionists/Israel. They have control of the people in this country with power. They are all obsessed with Israel, and defending Israel.
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I don't come from money. I come from as poor as poor can be. This is my family below, that's where I come from. My mother is the youngest in shot. She had seven brothers & eight sisters. I come from real London poverty. I come from London poverty that is not afraid of hard work to better themselves though.
I'm no rich boy. I'm as common as muck. Don't matter how much money I have. But I am a realist. I don't understand the fixation with the Jews regarding the UK's big problems. And we do have very big problems. The last Labour government before this one sold all our gold... At the lowest prices for decades. Gold is now worth an absolute fortune.
I see Labour & Tory as ****s. That's why i have never voted for any of them. Last great prime minister this country had was Margret Thatcher. Three poor boys from the photo below became millionaires (when that meant something) because of Maggie & hard work. Hard work is not rewarded under Labour. Being feckless is. We enabled a whole generation to sit on their arris & get paid. That's a major problem for the UK now. Not just Muslims. PIP and the disability system is killing us.
We all know carpers on the disability who are fine. That's going on through the whole of society in the UK.
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In reply to Post #148
I have been to China. Like many developed countries it is a place of extremes. The areas of modern infrastructure are fantastic. Working in a factory recycling toxic metals for pennies is probably less fantastic.
I wouldn’t be able to access this forum legally in China. That could be interpreted as less progressive than the UK.
I’m not arguing good or bad, left or right. None of my posts have. I’m just trying to give context through a wider lens.
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In reply to Post #148
Yes. Because of Austerity. Public funding has been slashed. Yet in that time billionares in the UK have doubled their net worth.
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Go to China. Don't listen to what you read on the internet. Go there.
Walk into some public toilets. You will see rows of Dyson driers made in the UK which we could never afford. You will see two attendant's cleaning at all times. Go into a public loo in the UK these days you might catch AIDs or something similar.
Walk down their high streets.... You will not see a place that is dying... You will see a place that is absolutely thriving.
Go around the world... It's the Chinese you will meet/see in other countries with the big money these days.
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In reply to Post #141
Mark i respect your opinion, but you are being very close minded. You're just looking at what's in front of you, and not wondering why it happened.
We know Muslims are an issue in the UK. But then why has no government stopped immigration?
Who owns all the social media you use?
This is NOTHING to do with Jews. It's about zionists. Zionists run all the social media you use, GB news, the BBC, murdoch media, GB news etc etc. Every news article in the mainstream is funded, or edited by zionists.
As I said, who does Immigration and all these Muslims comming here benefit?
Yvette Cooper took £215,000 from the Israeli lobby and the illegally declared PA as terrorists. 15 police sent to arrest every old person holding a piece of cardboard, but if your shed got broken into you won't ever see a poloce officer. They don't work for us.
Left/right doesnt exist, they're all controlled by the same people.
Labours last leader was ousted by zionists, and then Keir Starmer suddenly appeared from nowhere, who had ever heard of him? Then suddenly a PM.
Read the epstein files, the pedo stuff is 5% of it, it shows foreign involvment in our government and covers up by the UK press.
Personally i dont want any religious person within 10 miles of government. If you are gullible to believe that nonsence, or have your decisions based on some magic man in the sky you shouldn't be trusted with power. Does that make me left wing?
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In reply to Post #145
My own eyes. You should try opening yours.
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In reply to Post #143
What is your source that the Chinese standard of living is far greater than the UK?
The UK median wage is about £40K a year. Less than 1% of Chinese people earn a salary that is equal to this.
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In reply to Post #142
You were interested enough to come post though.
Not one comment about the big problems the UK faces. It's all okay is it? Really?
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No one wants to respond to this bit below?
"Lets spin this around. White English folk should try going to China where the standard of living is FAR better than ours. Go there illegally. Then tell the Chinese that you want to make China into the UK. That you are bringing all your friends & family... And they need to pay for them. Tell them you will habitat into large groups where the natives are no longer welcome. Tell them you will get white English people voted into positions of power so that you can destroy Chinese traditional way of life. Then tell them that you will all be marching down the high streets chanting anti Chinese sentiments every weekend. Tell them that you expect to be protected by their police whilst doing this. Tell them you expect the Chinese to bend over to accommodate the invasion."
It's all the Jews fault what is happening in the UK? Every time I hear that Corbyn fella he is going on about the Jews. Could someone please explain to me in plain English what the problem is regarding the Jewish people and the left in the UK? Every left leaning voter seems to hate the Jews. I just don't see where it comes from personally. There is sooo much shat going on around the world. But as far as the left are concerned only Gaza & Israel exist you would think.
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I have no interest in political debate on a fishing forum. Im just adding some historical context to the doom mongering.
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In reply to Post #138
Quote... Whilst you're shouting about Muslims for the last 20 years, billions of pounds going out the back door from the uk into pockets of individuals.
I have not been shouting about Muslims for twenty years. Is the north of England and London now full up with Jews, or Muslims? Are there Jews or Muslims marching down our high streets? Could you name the last terrorist incident in the UK involving a Jew? I can't think of any personally. I don't care about the USA, Israel or Gaza mate. I care about the UK.
Between all three of you... Not one of you actually wants to speak about the real problems which the UK faces.
You all voted labour I am guessing?
I am ashamed to admit that I have never voted. That's how non political I am. That will change in the future.
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In reply to Post #137
But what were the living conditions like for the working man while the likes of The East India Company were making The Empire Great?
Don’t let the rhetoric mask the actual history.
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In reply to Post #135
What does racism have to do with what I posted about mate? We are speaking about religion, not race. I am married to a woman from a different race. We are speaking about the problems which the UK faces. Tit for tat resolves zero. Yes we have plenty of nonces. We had one on this very forum who gets let out of jail soon. I'm not interested in Tommy. Or any of the others. Not sure what they have to do with this conversation.
I just don't understand why people on the left instantly bring up Jews constantly when discussing problems in the UK.
Do we have swathes of new Jewish politicians? No. Do we have Jewish rape gangs? No.
I'm intrerested in resolving the problems in the UK... Not the middle east.
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In reply to Post #133
You are looking at a city on fire, shouting at the fire and ignoring the Arsonist.
Who benefits from immigration?
Big buisnes - cheap labour
Hotel owners - massive gov handouts
The israel lobby - demonising Muslims
Government- more tax payers
Big oil - keeps you distracted
Billionares- you aren't looking at them
Whilst you're shouting about Muslims for the last 20 years, billions of pounds going out the back door from the uk into pockets of individuals.
Lobby groups have the power, oil, gas, environmental, foreign etc, they are who your politicians work for.
Why did we go into Iraq? Because of a lie about weapons of mass destruction instigated by Israel. Exactly the same they are doing now to urge the USA to attack Iran.
This left vs right thing is nonsence. And as long as people keep believing these are left vs right problems, we will always have issues.
The way people are ignoring the mandelson scandal is crazy, and steve bannon, plotting to over throw Theresa may. Sex trafficking cover up in the royal family. We have so much foreign influence dictating our government, but everyone seems blind to it, and just keeps wanting to shout at the immigrants.
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In reply to Post #136
Downward spiral definition... A situation in which something continuously decreases or gets worse.
100 years ago we were the empire. We ruled the world. GREAT Britain. That's not the case anymore. We have been on a downward spiral for decades. In the last ten years it has sped up at an alarming rate.
You can sit here all day and pontificate, without really looking at the big problems which the UK faces. We are on a major downward spiral and have been for the last century. We are no longer GREAT Britain. We no longer rule the world or control the empire. That in itself is a major downward spiral.
We gave away our manufacturing. We make zero now. We sold all our energy companies to foreign enteties. The birth of the internet saved us for a while. That's gone now. What is Britain now great at? About all we have left is our financial institutions & the City of London. Property in London is massively foreign owned.
We are seen as a soft touch around the world now. Get out there and find out for yourself.
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“The UK is on one of the biggest downward spirals in mankind's history right now..”
Even if we only focus on England/ the UK I think it’s fair to say this assessment has a fairly narrow viewpoint.
During the two years of plague over 50% of the UK population died.
I don’t think living through the 100 Years War was supposed to be that great for the English working man, same goes for the English Civil War.
If we are looking at religion what about the huge cultural shifts of The Reformation? Protestantism came from abroad, as did Catholicism before that.
If you were around in the early 20th century you had the country on the brink of another civil war, saved by entering WW1. Nearly a million dead in WW1 followed by The Great Depression, then another half a million dead in WW2. A tricky 40 years.
Over the history of mankind I’d say we have it pretty easy right now, regardless of political standpoint.
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In reply to Post #133
In my opinion it isn't solely a UK issue anymore - there are so many interwoven elements that it's hard to gauge where it starts and ends.
Abuse of any female, regardless of where they are from, or where it is done, is abhorrent; I can call out a white skinned grooming gang (Epstein) or a non-white skinned grooming gang (Rotherham) in equal measure, because I have no interest in using it as a political weapon with racism as it's underlying motivator. We don't hear the Yaxley-Lennon mob braying for justice to be done against white abusers and the reason for that is because they don't care about the abuse. If I recall correctly, 40% of those arrested for rioting last summer and setting fire to hotels have a history of domestic violence. That's totally at odds with what they claim to stand for. In reality, they just want to have a few beers and a few lines, find a few victims, and kick off, citing child abuse as a justification for it.
Gotta shoot, I need to try to syphon off more tax. 
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You only need to look at the rape statistics right across Europe since this immigration from the middle east started. Look at all the countries. Up 70%. Up 80%. Up 90%.
We are allowing people whom have very different morals & views about women/girls to us to come here en masse. People whom have a very different culture.... Most of whom openly hate us. Openly hate us because of poxy religion.
The UK is on one of the biggest downward spirals in mankind's history right now. Right before our very eyes. Whilst the world laughs at us. There are specific reasons for all this. Reasons some people simply do not want to look at.
Socialism & open border wishes is behind most of it.
Last year more than a thousand millionaires left the UK. This year there will be far more. Mass exodus. The top few % of earners pay the vast majority of the tax. What will happen for the average working man in the UK when this lunacy has driven most sensible people & high earners from the UK? Anyone who can escape, is escaping. The working man will be absolutely facked. Think you pay a lot of tax now? Wait for what will come when the rich have finished departing.
In the words of Margret Thatcher... The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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In reply to Post #132
But what does anything you just said have to do with the problems going on in the UK mate?
A straight up question? Because this is the stuff that gets rolled out by people with left leaning views the moment anyone tries to speak about the problems in the UK. Stuff about Gaza, Palestine, Epstein, the IDF. What does any of that have to do with little girls getting raped in Manchester, UK, essentially because they are white Christian little girls (Infidels)?
These are OUR little girls being targeted. Nonces are nonces. We have plenty. We don't have gangs of white men raping young Muslim girls, because they are Muslim.
I actually don't understand what any of the stuff in your post has to do with anything I said in mine. Mine was all about the UK. Yours was all about everywhere else except the UK.
I mean that with the greatest respect, and not as some attack. I just get dumbfounded by people on the left of politics who always come up with the same stuff about Jews whilst talking about the problems in the UK.
The Jews in the UK don't blow up buses or trains. They don't try to behead little girls or soldiers. They don't blow up kids at concerts. They are a very well integrated part of UK society. I don't know any Jews. But the ones in London seem perfectly okay. No problems from them whatsoever.
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In reply to Post #131
Agreed about religion being weaponised. It's slowly destroying the world.
I see Tommy short arse is now claiming to be backed by God. Absolute tool, with a trail of muppets behind him lapping it up (along with the lager and the gak). These idiots are very vocal about asian grooming gangs but I don't recall a squeak out of them regarding Epstein, the Royal Family, Trump, or the mass rape and murder of Palestinians in Gaza by the IDF. Luckily, anyone with an iota of brainpower can see through that sh*t.
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In reply to Post #130
That video sort of sums up everything.... I should start by saying I don't give a flying fack about religion. It's all mumbo jumbo to me. Believe what you want.... Just don't force it down my throat on a daily basis.
This is what I do care about.
Headline running across the bottom of the screen... 1000 men being investigated by Manchester police regarding grooming gangs in Manchester... Whilst at the same time, an English speaking muslim is sitting there banging on constantly about the Jews.
We have imported the third worlds problems here. These are middle east problems. NOT British problems... NOT UNTILL we imported the third world here.
This is a Christian based country. It's not Jewish, it's not Muslim... It's Christian.
The Jews have been here forever. I'm a Londoner born & bred. The Jews have always been in London. They fit in. They don't cause big problems. They never have.
Lets spin this around. White English folk should try going to China where the standard of living is FAR better than ours. Go there illegally. Then tell the Chinese that you want to make China into the UK. That you are bringing all your friends & family... And they need to pay for them. Tell them you will habitat into large groups where the natives are no longer welcome. Tell them you will get white English people voted into positions of power so that you can destroy Chinese traditional way of life. Then tell them that you will all be marching down the high streets chanting anti Chinese sentiments every weekend. Tell them that you expect to be protected by their police whilst doing this. Tell them you expect the Chinese to bend over to accommodate the invasion.
See where it gets anyone. You would be laughed off the face of the map. That's how far we have fallen with all this mumbo jumbo PC you gotta love the world bull****. We are self destructing in the UK.
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In reply to Post #128
Here is reforms Matt Goodwin backing up what I've been saying.
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In reply to Post #128
As **** as the tories and Labour are, anything but fuehrer Farage..... l await the pile on.
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Reading some of the posts below, it’s akin to some of the Covid conspiracy crap that used to get sprouted on this forum.
Come May the elections will give a picture of what this country needs.
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In reply to Post #126
So if you hate Muslims you may sympathise with the Jews?
You're allowed to dislike both.
Zionists hate me and you, not just Muslims, they are Jewish Supremacists, gods chosen people. Christians get spat on in Israel. They have destroyed British graves that Muslims have protected.
The hate for israel is because it's a pedophilic death cult that hides behind the Jewish religion. Did you watch the video i posted by algazera? It shows all lies they have used to justify the war, that your tax money is being used to cover up.
I'm not aware of any large Muslim lobby groups that influence our government to the extent Israel does. We have Labour Friends of Israel, the conservatives, the libdems and now reform friends of Israel lobby groups. All giving money to politicians to buy their support.
Uk lawyers for israel are currently trying to re-write history in the British museum
Remember Jeremy Corbyn? One of the few politicians who wasn't bought by israel, and look what happened to him, branded as an anti semite, and kicked out the labour party, by Mandelson, McSweeney and Starmer. And nobody could ever explain what he had done that was anti semetic.
Why is there nobody on the Right who is not bought by Israel? Nick Griffin was the last one, the BNP, and what happened to him? It's an interesting story, the BNP was sunk because Nick Griffin was told to target Muslims and leave Jews alone, he didn't comply....right after this Tommy Robbinson started his group called the English and Jewish Defence league.
“If you would know who controls you see who you may not criticise.”
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In reply to Post #125
is by getting foreign influence out of government.
Agree
I think the Israel thing is simply because Jews and Muslims hate each other. So if you hate Muslims you may sympathise with the Jews?
Personally I just want someone to put a stop to all this illegal immigration, get all this scum off our streets, stop all this radical Islam in our country and out all these Pakistani rape gangs. Sound like a racist don’t I?
That’s phase 1, I want them to look at immigration as a whole, then all the spongers whether they be black, white, yellow or whatever colour.
That’s a good starting point for me
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In reply to Post #124
I appreciate that, but the only way I see us making Britain great, is by getting foreign influence out of government.
Just ask yourself why is Rupert Lowe super fixated on muslim/Pakistani rape gangs? Yet has never once mentioned the Jewish rape gang that our heads of state have been actively involved in.
He hates farage, apparently, so why hasnt he attacked Farage for his connections and dodgy goings on with Steve Bannon? Or his mysteriously funded house in Clacton, or the mountains of Russian influence within reform?
They are all a bunch of grifters trying to make money, they could not give two fuc*s about the country. If they did, they wouldn't be selling you hate all the time. When was the last time one of them said something positive, something they love about England?
They just want you to hate everything, be scared of everything, and pretend they have the answers to make England look like a 1950s shake and vac advert.
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In reply to Post #123
TBH, there are some terrible things going off in some countries around the world. Thank yourself lucky you live in the UK, at the moment it’s still relatively safe, all I’m really interested in is making Britain great again
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In reply to Post #122
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Rupert Lowe MP
@RupertLowe10
Our cowardly Government must find the courage to stand with Israel.
We must support them, however we can.
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Rupert Low is yet another Zionist. Why do ALL of these 'patriots' always support Israel? Keir Starmer and his cabinate are complicit in a genocide, look at the Spy plane Scandal, among other things. Look at Yvette Cooper putting the profits of an Israeli weapons manufacturer before the free speech of British people (channel 4 did a good doc). Why aren't the right wing piling on this. They could have starmer and most the labour party out on their arse tomorrow? Morgan Mcsweeney used to live in an Israeli Kabbutz. Labour Friends of Israel has given money to pretty much all of them.
Epstein was mossad. An Israeli spy. Gislane Maxwells dad was the Israeli spy that stole the USAs nuclear secrets so that Israel could build nukes, that they STILL won't admit they have and won't allow to be inspected. Mandelson himself has passed British secrets to an Israeli spy, why tf isn't Rupert Low jumping on that?
Labour getting war criminal Tony Blair involved, wtaf?
Israel is still holding back an investigation into what happened on October 7th. It took SIX HOURS before anyone tried to stop hammas on October 7th. Israel used the Hannibal Directive and murdered many of its own people on that day. They moved bodies to the music festival. They were warned MULTIPLE times about an imminant attack. Every time they try investigate, Netinyahu gets ill and it gets delayed.
The Israeli Regeme is evil. Be wary of any politicians who supports it, they all know the truth but ignore it. Look at the hold AIPAC has on US politicians.
When Israel continues to displace people from the Middle East, where do you think they will go?
Israel is a terrorist state.
Aljazeera did a good investigation into what happened oct7 LINKY POO™ https://youtu.be/-mxfnya3ZRc?si=kbKUEsatS_J3TtE_
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https://youtu.be/8UoSagw9ALA?si=g1nHliDCI-mxbsuA
We live in hope
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In reply to Post #120
AKA ****s
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In reply to Post #92
Peter Mandelson - Zionist
Morgan McSweeney - Zionist
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Get rid of the fake Admiral ffs, what's up with folk Captain. 2 years on the bounce he's been faking it
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c17x92nzgyzo
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In reply to Post #117
I agree. They need to drop the mental health plea
****ing disgraceful
I think as a parent we all know the score, I would be doing time or ****ing dead, either way I would want an outcome
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In reply to Post #116
Absolute scum, this is attempted murder plain and simple, playing the mental health card should not save him,
Incarceration for life and no less
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86vl5d8w47o
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Another ****
20 year old Afghan attacked AE staff with a crowbar, detained under mental health grounds, WTF I hope they smashed his ****ing face in with the crow bar first ffs 
Uncultured ****s who cannot and never will integrate into our society
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@Keir_Starmer
As @YvetteCooperMP sets out in her letter, the historic tweets by Alaa Abd El-Fattah areabsolutely abhorrent. With the rise of antisemitism, and recent horrific attacks, I know this has added to the distress of many in the Jewish community in the UK. We are taking steps to review the information failures in this case.
Sir Keirs official response. The historic Tweets were not just about jews. Yet Keir made it only about Jews.
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In reply to Post #112
You couldn't write it, all the accolade they were going to give him 
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In reply to Post #112
So we are back to
Who is going to run the show for the benefit of US.
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In reply to Post #110
So the Government, MI5 and MI6 were not aware of his tweets yet everyone on X is ? 🤔
He was imprisoned for social media posts and they were made aware of it.
Reports coming out now that the Egyptian authorities informed the Government of his accumulated racist outbursts before his return.Yet more lies from Starmer, Lamb and Cooper.
They should all be removed from office.
All those lefty lovey celebs campaigning for his release are now mysteriously silent.
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In reply to Post #105
9/11 - You mean the dancing Israeli's 
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Alaa Abd El-Fattah returns to the UK , backed and celebrated by Starmer and co
Conservatives and reform want him stripping of British citizenship. His sister says all his posts online 10 years ago about killing Zionists and white folk were all a lie lol. Starmers gang didn't even do any digging on the **** and were about to recognise him ffs
I have a better idea, deport him and all his family, swap the parachute for rucksacks
We don't want these ****s in our country. They want our lifestyle instead of living in their **** pit but they don't really want to be with us really, do they!
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In reply to Post #108
Originally, yes. So your inferring to a political swing, if so, which one?
Zionists are supporters of Zionism, a political movement that emerged in the late 19th century advocating for a Jewish national homeland in Palestine, the historic Land of Israel, as a refuge from antisemitism and a means for Jewish self-determination, culminating in the founding of the modern State of Israel in 1948.
I'm sure they find that offensive, given the fact they did not have a Homeland before they were given one, maybe that's what all the fuss is about over that way?
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Starmer, Miliband, Lammy, Emma Webb, lizz Truss, Tommy Robbinson and Katie Hopkins. These are the Zionists i have mentioned in comments. Only one of these seven people are recognised as Jewish. So why has the conversation turned from Zionism to Jews?
Suggesting all Jewish people are Zionists is just downright offensive to a large group of Jewish people. Suggesting all zionists are jews is clearly also a lie.
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In reply to Post #106
So from that the holocaust was fake and just a way of funding Israel?
More up to date, is Ariande Grande Jewish?
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In reply to Post #105
I like your analogy 😁
Yep the next big conspiracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Jewish_conspiracy
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In reply to Post #103
Sounds like another conspiracy theory.
Next we'll be told the Jew's took down the Twin Towers and helped to concoct fake moon landings.
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In reply to Post #101
The more we have to support, they will up our taxes eventually to pay for it all, flatten everyone off like communists, you watch
WW3 is around the corner 
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In reply to Post #100
All of this anti migrant propaganda is alway by Zionists or people compromised by Israel.
Really? That is nonsense. Maybe it immigrants, radical islamists, and their impact on our country?
Yeah, it's because of Jews, I can't think of one person I know who would vouch for that
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I think for sure this country needs a new party in charge.
Tory's are the new lib dem and labour on their way out.
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In reply to Post #100
They are also paying for illegal immigrants to be sent to this country and many more, fighting age males lots with training in camps is only for one reason.
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In reply to Post #99
All of this anti migrant propaganda is alway by Zionists or people compromised by Israel.
Look up Emma Webb and who she is. Your last post, Lizz Truss, massive zionist has received money from Israel. Elon Musk, a man who is very clearly compromised by Israel, although not publicly a Zionist, his silence is deafening.
Who else are your other hero's, Tommy Robbinson, Katie Hopkins? The people who are telling you who to hate, ALL have one massive thing in common.
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In reply to Post #98
It's not.This is and it's far too late. Expect the same to filter into every major city in the uk before running into towns and villages like blood through veins. Disgraceful
https://youtu.be/8T5rZLPwoKc?si=2bUvxx09dXNA1CNh
This is what they want because ultimately it lines the adults pockets
We need radical change, and now, it's too late but longer term we may have a chance to reverse the situation
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In reply to Post #97
Watched both videos Chris.
Interesting stuff but they don't suggest that Zionism is the biggest threat to the UK.
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Then watch this, until the end
https://youtu.be/eFI2UyT6hJA?si=WD-LwS5TdY-f7Vyz
Does it all make sense now?
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This sorting out. Worth a watch
https://youtu.be/qjFwgy5MMBk?si=e5syARrlhHP7IKIl
And this lot, Fadians, the adults, corrupt as ****, all with invested interests
I would argue though that politicians are stupid
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In reply to Post #94
Not to me and others I've asked.
Are you saying Israel should be eradicated, If so how should that be done?
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In reply to Post #93
No. It should be painfully obvious to anyone.
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In reply to Post #92
Can you give the reasons why please
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In reply to Post #91
All 3 of these have publicly stated they are Zionists. Zionism is the biggest threat to the UK, and the world.
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In reply to Post #1
Starmer, Miliband and Lammy....
All the time these lunatics are in charge, this country is in big trouble.
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In reply to Post #89
Righto!
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In reply to Post #88
He's not cancelled he left the BBC so free to say whatever he wants now.
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In reply to Post #87
No. I mean the so called champions of free speech (mainly on the right) finally got their wish and managed to cancel him. Seems to me the only people being cancelled are those expressing different points of view to prople of right wing and far right persuasion. Can't recall anyone from those particular churches being silenced.
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In reply to Post #86
Do you mean he's been barred from attending a Jewish memorial service?
What's your view?
I'd like to know whether Linekar was actually contemplating attending.
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Hmmmm..... Gary Lineker?!
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In reply to Post #84
My opinion.
Some people are so left wing that think anyone that leans to the left are right wing and anyone who is right wing are now labelled the far right
It's a way of trying to cancel people.
The reason I started this with......my opinion.
I'm entitled to one and reserve the right to have one without having to justify it to strangers on here.
We've lost a number of members to bans and those who choose to leave.
I don't intend to join them
Happy to listen but not necessarily reply to others with different opinions.
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In reply to Post #9
I'm sorry please forgive my ignorance but Kier Starmer is a Fabian.. he was on the executive committe.. are you honestly saying that the Fabian society who's goal it is to install socialism in Britain through the capture of the education system, health system and political system are right wing?? The Fabians are right wing now are they?
Listening to lefties saying the labour party are tories is like the Democrats in the United States say the two parties changed names when they are talking about the slave trade. Honestly I'm confused
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In reply to Post #74
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DG8oOPoKLeG/?igsh=MXdoMXN6NnJtcHIzNA==
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Standard procedure for said user....
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we've all been here before and it usually ends up with someone being banned or someone gets the hump and leaves the forum.
I've just realised the OP has been banned 
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In reply to Post #78
Agreed sickening, also sickening is regimes that want to completely annihilate Jews.
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In reply to Post #77
Absolutely sickening.
To all those complicit I hope you rot in hell.
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In reply to Post #75
Said 50,000! lives lost during the latest Israel conflict, disgraceful
And the world has just stood by.
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In reply to Post #1
Agree with the first two paragraphs.
Sadly, not the second two (except the Vance speech).
We are going down the toilet fast.
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People Get bent out of shape because putin is having a ground war in the east of the Ukraine yet don't say **** about the complete annihilation of Palestine and its people......give ya heads a wobble ffs....... 
Trump has managed to get a ceasefire on the table in less than 80 days in office but is still the bad guy.......what the **** did the kiddy sniffer and his leftie cronies do in 3yrs.......absolutely feck all! Add to the fact Biden and his son were exposed for shady Ukrainian deals and trump gets the hate for Calling it out on live TV.......
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In reply to Post #73
Threads is owned by Meta. Meta is Facebook.
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In reply to Post #72
Yes we've proved your clueless but many know that and ignore anything you post. Link is not FB.
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In reply to Post #71
I don't have a Meta (Facebook) account so I can't read that link. I guess we've finally proved a point.
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In reply to Post #70
Some more fake stuff but then you think everything is fake, or is it.
https://www.threads.net/@markvezina/post/DG7YJYpMFaS?xmt=AQGzwm_qhWRGQAARlBYJQk9vWHTHLSWgzsflofFq7m999Q
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In reply to Post #68
How would a 2001 census pick up public opinion on an invasion that started in 2014?
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In reply to Post #67
You obviously didn't read the last bit or choose to ignore it. I'm not quoting anything from Facebook either as I only use messenger to keep in touch with friends and family.
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I'm not debating whether the UK should have troops on the ground in the Ukraine. That's another complex matter.
My question to you is where your information is coming from to support that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian's in the borderlands of Russia are happy to be occupied by force. It seems it either came from one Ukrainian living in England, some Russians or some Polish guys, also in England.
I think you actually read that on a screen and now you are repeating it as fact on this forum. This is how propaganda propagates.
The Russians have been masters at controlling the media since the printing press. Putin understood the power of TV to the Russian people and took over the stations. Now it's the internet, through sites like Facebook that target a specific demographic that will believe what they read if it fits their values.
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In reply to Post #65
And a vast amount of men of fighting age that had military training fled Ukraine at the start of the conflict, interpret that any way you like ,in my eyes if their own people won't fight for their country why should we ? 2.6 billion yesterday alone while are country falls apart.
And those figures were from a Ukrainian census in 2001.
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If that statistic is correct, I'd be interested where you got the figure. then 82% are not Russian. That's a very substantial majority of the population that doesn't want their land to be occupied by force.
Also, just because you are ethnically Russian' (there are a few interpretations of what this actually means) does not mean that you want to be ruled by Putin.
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In reply to Post #63
I'm sure you know nearly 18% of the population of Ukraine were ethnic Russian's. Approximately eight and a half million.
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In reply to Post #62
So how do you know those people are happy to be occupied by Russia?
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In reply to Post #61
No Ukraine people working here ,only two russian and lots of polish.
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In reply to Post #56
So you spoke directly to the Ukrainian people in the Donbas Region and they told you they wanted to be occupied by the Russians?
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In reply to Post #59
Agree, let's just hope it's those two who end up trading missiles!
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In reply to Post #58
More than one step further - he is aligning the US with Russia.
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In reply to Post #54
Interesting, and similar to what I have read. If Ukraine folds it's a case of who will be next, the European leaders know it, and now Tump has basically took that one step further, deal with it yourself!
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I think trump will be the first president to be KILLED in office since Kennedy.
Now the question is will it again be an inside job or a foreign entity...
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In reply to Post #55
Spoken to both Russian and Ukrainian along with Polish, we live in a very different world now compared to an era when that agreement was made three decades ago and that trump was no part of. The American economy is broke same as ours but trump is trying to fix it and is not a war monger unlike the idiot he replaced. Good luck to o the UK and UN which was funded to a massive extent by the USA.
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In reply to Post #52
I assume you mean conscription? Is your information first hand from the Russian speaking Ukrainians you speak of, or did you read it on a screen?
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The long destructive shadow of Obama's Russia doctrine.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/11/obama-russia-ukraine-war-putin-2014-crimea-georgia-biden/
Interesting article.
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Agreed RKB.
Ukraine have f**k all to be thankful to the US for. The US gave their word to protect Ukraine in exchange for the nukes in 94. Ukraine was/is owed that protection.
"Thank us.... go on.... THANK US"!
F***ing rats.
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Nothing to do with FB, fact is Ukraine had subscription and all were trained in the military and all those of age to fight should do so before we commit any of our troops . If you think we and the un stand any chance against Russia uuuuummm. Possibly but tens of thousands will die on both sides which is pointless when one man has repeatedly refused a piece deal.
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In reply to Post #50
You have this information from the Russian speaking Ukrainians in these regions? Or do you just spend a lot of time on Facebook?
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In reply to Post #48
People of Crimea and Donbass wanted to be part of Russia and were russian speaking and have been murdered and tortured by Ukrainian people for years as said while the world ignored it. As said second most corrupt country in the world and offered peice on several occasions since it started . Offered a deal by trump that would have ensured peice but again not interested.
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In 1994 under the tri-lateral agreement with the US and Russia to dis-arm its nukes, Ukraine was given assurances/guarantees of security in order to do so; look at how that's played out. Had Ukraine kept its nuclear capability I very much doubt Russia would have even attempted to annex Crimea in 2014, let alone the full illegal invasion and war in 2022. Ironically given that Zelenskyy is seeking 'security assurances' from the US now for the future, I'd be pointing out that the US has already let him down significantly in allowing his country to be invaded and any promises for future security probably have no substance to them.
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In reply to Post #47
"Modern Ukraine was entirely created by Russia or, to be more precise, by Bolshevik, Communist Russia," he said.
The process started right after the 1917 revolution, when Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin and his associates "separated, severed what historically Russian land is" to form the Soviet Republic of Ukraine, he added.
Then, another Soviet leader, Joseph Stalin, transferred to Ukraine some lands that previously belonged to Poland, Romania, and Hungary, giving to Poland as compensation "part of what was traditionally German land," Putin also noted.
Finally, in 1954, one more Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev, took Crimea away from Russia "for some reason" and also gave it to Ukraine.
"In effect, this is how the territory of modern Ukraine was formed," Putin said.
An now he wants it back. They are an independent state and don't want to be part of Russia, similar to the breakaway states, Chechen War? what happened there!
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In reply to Post #46
Disagree with Putin being the real threat, the land Russia has taken was predominantly occupied by russian speaking civilians who want to be russian and have been persecuted by Ukraine and many were murdered while the world did nothing so Putin did. Zelensky was offered peice talks only two weeks into the war but refused and has done so ever since. Why are we funding the second most corrupt country in the world ? Starmer talking about troops on the ground but let's not forget thousands fled Ukraine and as they have all served under subscription they should be returned to fight for thier country before any of our own are sent out there.
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In reply to Post #45
Politics makes my **** itch but the war in Ukraine concerns me
I said last time when Trump was in, he got it so right and so wrong and off he goes again!
The press conference was nothing more than an utter embarrassment, staged and truly dreadful and in front of the world, horrendous
On reflection I can understand them wanting some returns in minerals, why not, they are pumping billions in at the moment, or were.
I can also understand them wanting Europe to stand on its own two feet if I am honest. We need to be united, I believe Putin is a real threat
And, here he goes again, initial stock market crash, 25% import tax for Canada and Mexico and 20% for China.if I was an American citizen I would probably be happy. Opted out of a war and saved a fortune, put a stranglehold on imports which can only be good for US business
But, if anybody could start WW3, it would be this tit
I wish someone would come along and make the UK great again!
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In reply to Post #43
So do all you maha flag shaggers
I wasted my time checking if I'd once made any reference that might make you post that assumption about me, I should've known better, seeing as you reference 'shaggers' kindly feck off.
Fwiw, The minute Trump mentioned mineral rights I thought you'd need boots on the ground to protect them, then a few days later T says no one will mess with us if we're there protecting our rights. Clever way to circumvent NATO military restrictions. Any which way you look at it no one actually gives 2 hoots about Ukraine but it's good to virtue signal. The UN & NATO have stood by and are standing by while atrocious are still being committed around the world but as long as there's a resolution that makes us all feel good, that's ignored by everyone...carry on regardless as if doesn't really affect us 
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In reply to Post #42
So DP
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In reply to Post #42
So do all you maha flag shaggers feel the same now he has just sold Ukriaine down the river at the behest of dear old Vlad.Honestly we have problems I agree but saying that the orange turd or his lickspittle snake oil salesmen Farridge is the answer is just deranged and the showing tonight in the oval office against a Prseident of a country fighting for its very existence is just disgusting beyond belief.
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In reply to Post #41
Yep, that sums it up. Re me, It wasn't even fruity, just not mainstream...lol.
You can't even state facts now without it reflecting on you badly...ho hum.
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In reply to Post #40
I understand that logic. But now I'm more super curious to what you actually typed. It must have been fruity.
So basically we no longer live in a free speech democracy. Some folks have the right to say whatever they want. But the majority must now remain silent. For fear of reprisal literally by the powers that be.
It's getting madder and madder by the day. Not you by the way. It'. Only bad things can come from it. We saved Europe to keep free speech, yet within a century we then start to suppress it among our own people, about the very issues within our own country. Unless you come from certain minority groups.
Forget political correctness. This what you are speaking about here will lead to Reform getting in rapidly in my opinion. Far more than any boats landing on any beaches. The stuff going on now regarding the farmers is also incredible.
What are the odds now on an emergency GA being called sometime soon? They must be tumbling.
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In reply to Post #39
Perhaps fear was the the wrong word M, but if it adds gravitas to my feelings then so be it. 'They' should feel fear, just as those they disagree with are made to, if people voice a opinion, which 'they' don't agree with.
I did type a reply then deleted it, because I was thinking things which I shouldn't be made to think, as I don't believe free speech still exists, if ever it did, and isn't just a illusion to passify the masses, just like democracy.
Eg, my sisters and wife are in reasonable jobs, it wouldn't be hard to find them or their employers via linkedinn. If it was pointed out that their brother/husband has any opinion that was viewed as other than mainstream, it may reflect badly on them, not directly of course, but in whispers, upon high where the mandate is spread from.
And that's enough for me to reframe from voicing a opinion on a public forum.
I walked the dogs today, I normally say hello to everyone I meet, I'm just like that. 1 person just looked away, another looked at me quizically, isn't it easier to smile or say hello.
Great Britain!
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In reply to Post #38
What you scared of, fear of what?
That photo was taken from a Faceache post yesterday on some comedy page where it was getting ripped to bits. It gained 3k likes I think, mainly angry or laughing faces. You should read some of the comments on that post. Nothing you say could come close to some of the stuff being said on there I'd bet.
It's 2025. It's long been accepted for decades now that being gay or of a different gender is completely normal now. So why is all this happening? I understand we cannot offend anyone. Will an elderly gentleman not be completely offended to be asked before an X-Ray if he's with child first? Does that not matter?
I'll be straight right now, If any Doctor asked me if I am pregnant before an important scan, I'd be instantly asking to go private and for a doctor that is clearly qualified. That one just asked me if I'm preggers, when I'm about to have my balls X-Rayed.
Edit... Ah scared of 'they', I see.
'They' have got Dave from accounts on daytime TV next week, he has an extreme french maids outfit fetish with a unique and quite spicy twist. He might even knock one out onscreen if anyone watching are really lucky. That will be a treat. Might solve truancy. Might scare poor old Doris into having a heart attack. But Dave has his personal story that he wants/needs/has to express.
It's hard to even fathom what the actual feck is going on these days. But it's stuff like this that is the reason we are on the most slippery of slopes as a nation it would seem. Political correctness or whatever you want to call it, gone absolutely bonkers. This seems to becoming the normal. People in other countries who formerly had the upmost respect for us as a nation, are watching all this and laughing at us. There's likely a couple of superpowers licking their lips.
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In reply to Post #37
Edit, deleted post, can't comment, fear has won.
Edit 2, for clarity, not of you M, but 'they'.
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If anyone needs to see why our 'Great' Britain is losing so much respect around the world faster than a hot knife through butter, here it is. Mad stuff like this being forced down everyones throats.
We invented likely more than half the great stuff in the world currently over the last couple of hundred years. We saved Europe twice. The world actually loved us and respected us for all that.
Does anyone truly believe that they respect us for this? Or even believe this is going on everywhere else?
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In reply to Post #32
Nigel's in Cornwall tonight, you going?
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In reply to Post #34
Welcome to 21st century Britain
(Left the great of on purpose)
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In reply to Post #24
Manchester police knocking on doors because some granny said the MP needs sacking so you're about right.
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In reply to Post #26
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In reply to Post #31
Lol...
Seriously though Andy is one of the fittest around ,very good cyclist for sure ...
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In reply to Post #30
He turned up in a big **** off extended limo.
But it's ok he planted a small tree to offset his carbon footprint
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In reply to Post #29
Did Andrew Cycle or walk..
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In reply to Post #25
Keep checking your in box Tazi I'm sure anyone who Israeli or Muslim is more than happy to kick off with the last 5 years of planning 👌
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In reply to Post #22
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In reply to Post #22
Might soon be time to move to North Korea..
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In reply to Post #22
Careful or you'll have the Left Wing clowns on the thread calling you racist.
Spot on by the way
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When a government that acts against its own people its elderly , disabled ,puts people in prison for a fb post ,then tries to eradicate the farming community and its future ability to grow food for its country..Cover the landscape with windmills ,Solar Farms and builds willy nilly on green belt land that's irreplaceable to flora and fauna ..because of housing all these replacements being allowed in ...under the biggest ,biggest lie and cover up ever,using the net green zero bs,to get you out of your car..
It's called Tyranny...we now live in a woke tyrannical state ,soon it will become cashless,and another move or nod to a social credit system will come closer..
Years ago I warned of otter predation. I got laughed at ..
I warned many people during covid about how you are being lied to,and how much influence the WEF have over the government and daily lives ....I got laughed at ..
I'm correct ,wake the fcuk....up...!
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Trump and Elon Musk's BRUTAL Secret.
Well worth a watch on Double Down News.
For the ordinary folk your world is well n truly fcuked.
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In reply to Post #19
Agree, and Israel, disgraceful and the super powers and the world just stood by
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In reply to Post #18
Think you may have forgotten about Iran
But those 3 you mentioned are definitely spoiling for a big fight
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America, Russia and Israel are the most dangerous countries on the planet right now.
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In reply to Post #15
That's just more of our biased media coverage in my honest opinion Clicky. Everyone else is bad, we are still Great Britain. That's what they portray. Before I went to Brazil for the first time I was slightly worried because of our media coverage. The reality is so different it defies belief. Yes if you go to the favelas in Sao Paulo or Rio you can find trouble. In the same way if you go visit Brixton or Peckham as a tourist you will find trouble. But in general terms, it's much safer than the UK. Crime in the UK is now glamorised by the masses. Stealing has become more normalised. Over there is carries far greater shame. There are very few firearms like here. But the police walk about with great big shooters. The police are greatly respected there. Like they used to be here. Old people are greatly respected there. Like they used to be here. Children still get a clip round the ear hole there. Without fear of the parents being locked up. Young people have far greater respect because of it. Just like it used to be here. Political correctness has killed us. We have a younger generation now in many parts of the UK with zero respect, but the greatest sense of entitlement.
It's these type of smaller things that are leading to our nation becoming a wild place. The comments I receive about the UK are always about this sharp decline in general morals. That's not because of the British people, but due to the complete break down of our identity. We can't say anything, about anything anymore. Not without being deemed a racist. To hear that Filipino woman speak so openly about the UK's problems was refreshing. She just spoke how it is. When she comes to London she now meets very few white English speaking people. We are not allowed to do that anymore. We will get locked up for saying stuff like that.
It started with that political correctness, now we are set down some path where we got to where we are today. Everything is now about minorities. The sense of entitlement that has created is shocking. If we are all honest, the Tories became like Labour, and Labour became like the tories. It's a very British trait to defend our country, I'm very proud to be British. But if we can't even look at what is really causing the problems, how do they ever get fixed.
The Reform party is not the answer either Framey I agree. We just need more choice in our politics. We just need to be honest about what is causing the sharp decline in our way of life. If we can't do that, nothings going to change and it's only going to get worse. If you look at what our governments have done over the last 20 years, they sold off everything we had. Our energy companies are all foreign owned. They sold all our gold for buttons. The Dartford crossing is foreign owned. Key transport and energy in control of other nations. These things were built with tax payers money, then sold off. Would this have happened fifty years ago? Of course not. Our media pushes that we are still great, yet we don't seem to own much here anymore. That's the stuff that never gets openly spoken about. Because it's our governments who have done the dirty on us. We are now in a situation where most young people in the UK will never own their own home. This is fundamental to society, to the family structure. This stuff is not happening in other countries from what I see, just here.
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Do we need change ? yes
Are reform the answer??
Highly unlikely
all I ever hear from that side of the camp is stop the boats as if that will change everything.
However,
I don't think any there are many other countries that are doing much better than us.
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In reply to Post #14
I wouldn't call Brazil the most safest country to visit either..
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These threads always become left v right, Labour v Conservatives.
All the while we only have two parties that can feasibly win, there will never be any change. They are all as **** as each other.
I had the most incredible conversation with an older Filipino woman in our hotel lobby. Her dog had a Barbour coat on with a Union Jack hanging off it, which started the conversation. She has a half British daughter who lives and works in the city of London. Her daughter pays a fortune in tax, yet her mother has great difficulties staying in the UK now. She has been visiting twice a year for the past twenty years. She was very forthright with her views on our country, and I made her 100% right. She commented how it is now very rare to see white English people when she visits the UK (London). She said this has changed so much over the past ten years. She commented how we were so respected world wide a decade ago, but not anymore. She said political correctness and the crazy liberal views on everything now that is destroying our country and our identity. She commented that it's incredibly sad what is happening to the UK.
She finished by saying that the UK is no longer a viable option to bring up children in her opinion. This was all from a 60-65 year old Filipino woman in the lobby of a 5 star hotel in Manila.
I agreed with everything she said. I hear the same about us when I am in Brazil.
When I was in Brazil at Christmas, it was all over the news out there daily about the savage that virtually beheaded those young girls in Stockport. He was referred to at all times as terrorist scum. When I flew back to the UK, our news channels were pretty much making excuses for him.
We have lost our way so badly.
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No party ever gives a flying fcuk about anyone but themselves.
The world is fcuked - Needs nuking.
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In reply to Post #11
All I can say is a mate of mine told me that given time Labour will be better.
Ok they've only been in power 7 months and in that time I don't expect them to perform miracles but I thought they could at least steady the ship.
I suppose you want me to list all things so you can pick them apart one by one, but I'm not going to, we've all been here before and it usually ends up with someone being banned or someone gets the hump and leaves the forum.
Just for the record I want the present government to do well but in my opinion things are getting worse and I can't see any signs of improvement in the long term.
Let's hope I'm wrong.
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In reply to Post #10
Labour do a worse job of getting it wrong..... OK.
Lesser of 2 evils? 14 years of ****servatives have driven the UK into the ground. Nothing works and it's on them.
Both parties are against proportional representation. Fartarse wasn't- until the last election. But he's changed his mind now as he's sniffing Reform could do well out of the current system.
Point about Corbybin, kinda misses the point that Labour were elected democratically, although I agree the size of the majority doesn't tell the whole story
We are poorer as a country and the real elites like Johnson, Fartarse, Lice, Trump and Musk have somehow persuaded a significant majority they're on YOUR side while making themselves and their chums richer and the world a much less safer place.
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In reply to Post #9
They are all to blame, they all lie to get or retain power.
The reason Labour don't get in often is they do a worse job of getting it wrong than the Tories.
So it's a case of the lesser of two evils.
The two tier voting system doesn't allow anyone else to get a look in.
Labour has a massive majority but got less votes than Corbyn
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In reply to Post #8
There hasn't been anything like a left wing government in this country since the 1960"s and that was centre left. Blair and Starmer are tories with red ties. And consider this. I'm 62 which means that from being 16 years of age I've had ****servative/coalition government's for the majority of that time. Which in turn means a Labour government has been in power for 13 and a half years out of 46. So, tories have been in power for about 70% of that time. Tell me then, who really is to blame for the state the country is in???
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In reply to Post #6
I agree with your reply that you made to post #1
the Left Wing Woke cancer that infects society needs stamping on, drain this country's Lefty swamps, the education system, the NHS, the central government un elected blob, no more money on Woke, diversity, foreign aid and hotels for terrorists landing on our beaches.
Yes the worrying thing is these morons are in the ascendancy.
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In reply to Post #6
it goes back further than that
Don't forget the winter of discontent.
Then before that the 3 day week
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In reply to Post #1
Keep on drinking that Kool Aid..... the worrying thing is these morons are in the ascendancy. And it's got NOTHING to do with wokery but a failure of mainstream politics over the last 40 odd years, starting with Thatcher.
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Brexit not working for you boys? PMSL.
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In reply to Post #1
Have to say, magnificent speech that resonated with a LOT of people. He is right, everybody is sick to the back ****ing teeth of it
Some balls for that 
It's only the woke that won't like the truth, they like to try and shut everyone down expect fellow believers
It's simple, it is not acceptable. And after all of the riots linked to Southport, which I didn't agree with but I can understand why, the suspect was exactly what people were told initially before they tried to sweep it under the carpet as usual, disgraceful.
I'm frum Yorkshire, say it how it is lad or don't ****ing bother
Seriously though, freedom of speech, he is right
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In reply to Post #1
Spot on well said...
And totally remove the WEF, expose the biggest lie of all time ..which is the NET GREEN ZERO agenda ..
Not forgetting a prison system ,like El Salvador has done removing the painted criminals ..so people can lead safer lives...
It's coming ,can't wait...let's hope channel four doing its alphabet people month,is the last of this insulting rubbish..
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In reply to Post #1
Spot on 👍
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A Trump, a J D Vance a Musk and Reform.
It can't be any clearer now that the Left Wing Woke cancer that infects society needs stamping on, drain this country's Lefty swamps, the education system, the NHS, the central government un elected blob, no more money on Woke, diversity, foreign aid and hotels for terrorists landing on our beaches.
The Vance speech in Europe nailed it today, what's going to sweep the US is going to sweep Europe, Germany is realising so will the French, Italy and Spain, the UK will follow.
No one voted for this, it's started, revolution is coming, no more rainbows MBGA
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