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In reply to Post #18
Iv dont this mate, way before sunrise and late into the night, even walked it a lot when not fishing. the best time to see them is when its sexy time and they are in the pads, other than that, who knows. i need to try and make more time and work harder.
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In reply to Post #16
Thats nice of you mate, not sure many on there would do this tbh.
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In reply to Post #17
I was also a member of a similar club, I caught more than my fair share just fishing day/morning sessions. Travelling light, looking, walking and being prepared. On more than one occasion I had fish within minutes when the lake hadn't produced much for days. The main problem at that time was actually getting on the fish as it was pretty sewn up by 'full timers' usually asleep in their bivvys when I was walking around.
OP there's more than one way to skin a cat!
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There’s no accounting for time. Firstly just being there more gets you in tune with the water, you’ve simply got more opportunities to find them. Secondly more time there means you’ve got more actual time with baits in the water. I look at carp fishing like any other hobby. If someone plays one round of golf a week at a club, and someone else plays one round of golf a day at the same club, who’s more likely to get a hole in one. Thirdly, if you can fish mid week and not when it’s busy, not only can you find them but you’ve got more chance of getting in to a swim where they are.
I’ve had a terrible season this year. Caught nothing. But I’ve only done six nights since Jan and only once have I actually felt I was on the fish. All other times I was dropping in to swims cos they were free, or the conditions on the day were terrible etc. I don’t know of any easy valley waters. All the ones I fish seem to range from tricky, moody on the day or granite hard. You just need to keep plugging away. A mate of mine is a great angler. Forty years experience. Doing everything right he still blanked for a year a while back. I doubt you’re doing anything wrong.
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In reply to Post #1
It could be as simple as you're not looking at the right time?
I fished a season on a lake years ago where I was told numerous times that "they never show here", I used to set my alarm for about 3.30am (summertime) every time I was there and almost always got to see the carp put on a show. Meanwhile the other members, bar one, were blissfully unaware tucked up in their bivvies.
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I joined a club that had a rule where you could only do days for the first 2 years. I never caught in that time. As soon as I did nights I caught immediately. Basically I wasn't doing anything wrong. Just not fishing when they were prepared to pick up a bait. As I was taught as a youngster. Put it where they will pick it up, and leave it there until they do.
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I was out for 2 nights from Wednesday to today and I blanked,but a young guy who was doing till tomorrow night came down and I suggested him to go in my swim as I’d put in some balls of ground bait (insect meal) and some hemp and scatter of boilies,and be a shame not to take advantage especially as he’s not caught anything for over a year in this lake.
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In reply to Post #12
I agree mate, its not a long time at all, its the best i can do with the time i have! I think its because its the first time i have blanked for this long.
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In reply to Post #11
I do mate, im ok with the blanks, a little annoying, but wont put me off.
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In reply to Post #10
Thanks mate, will deffo keep going.
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Just noticed the sentence in your original post: -
>>>in around 20 nights spent on the lake, in all weathers and all seasons,<<<<
That does not seem much effort and time put in at all, sounds like your fishing all the seasons but only 20 nights throughout the year.
I fish 3 or 4 days and night per week throughout the year and can go months and even a couple of years on one occasion on the lake that I fish without catching, and in a good year probably only catch a dozen fish, and that is just not me, we all have similar results.
Basically 20 nights is nothing on a hard water and blank on every session.
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Take solace that you can go fishing just to enjoy it. Sounds like this guy feels the need to put himself all over social media just to get some cheap bait and tackle.
If you take your time and keep looking you’ll find them, don’t worry about blanking.
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In reply to Post #9
Time is a great leveler... keep ar it. Take what you've been told on board. The results will come. Let us all know how you get on. 
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In reply to Post #6
you got it! got a bait deal. i have spoken to him, he is nice enough, but just says you will see them and when you do you will catch them lol.
il keep on with it though, im not going to give up, just annoying as i don't get much time on the bank and now keep blanking on this lake!
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In reply to Post #4
Im ok with the Crays, using the plastic baits, and that. i have walked the lake many times, spent ages looking at the lake in each swim, i just see no signs!! no fizzing, no jumping, nothing.
the only reason i lost one was it was very hot and they were all in the pads and boshing around after spawn.
thanks for you reply though, appreciate it.
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In reply to Post #5
Yes he is. doing very well there too.
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In reply to Post #3
Just ask him what he's doing. You've got nothing to loose.. if he's posting his results all over the Socials he's probably tied in with a bait and tackle deal. So it would be in his interest to tell you what he's doing. If anything it might just massage his ego a bit. So he might be a bit more fort coming.
" hope you don't mind me asking mate. I'm really struggling on here at the moment. And I see you've been aving a few. How you going about catching' em. Kettles on, tea??
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In reply to Post #3
Is he on another valley water by any chance?
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In reply to Post #1
Nothing beats walking the lake and getting a feel for it. Chat to other anglers and glean any info you can.
One thing that I would suggest is lap the lake looking for bubbling fish or any other signs. Then drop a rod or max 2 in the swim for an hour or two. Then move on. You'll find a load of spots and get to know the lake better really quickly and you may snag a bonus fish or two.
If you've lost one then you'll be able to find them again.
As for the crays - loads of helpful info online about how to fish in cray-infested lakes. Check out Scott Lloyd's video when he catches the Croc in the Cotswold Water Park. Some great advice on rigs & plastic baits etc.
Hope this helps
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In reply to Post #2
I hear you mate, and im not really one to listen either, its this bloke seems to smash the lake to bits! He posts on socials, so i know he does really well, just pissing me off now!
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"other people tell me they jump for hours"
That is one of those statements that wherever you fish you will hear it said. Usually they add, you should have been here yesterday, a couple of days ago, at the weekend, last week, but then you think to yourself, you was here, but they do not know that and then you realise they are talking rubbish.
So take comments like that with a pinch of salt.
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Hi all,
I'm new here so be kind
I have been fishing Bowyers in the valley for a season and a bit... its breaking me! i had 1 bite (lost in the pads).. i cant get a bit, the Crays are a nightmare.
in around 20 nights spent on the lake, in all weathers and all seasons, i have seen 1-2 fish show. i never see them!! other people tell me they jump for hours, but im yet to see this! does anyone have any advise/info on this place?
thanks in advance and sorry if i have posted in the wrong section.
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