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In reply to Post #34 Alright Nick ...I use the Fox dura lite 2,it's light and comfy ..I take the top 5 season layer of me techlite and either leave it on bedchair or back in original bag,it came in ,not the 40 litre version I had ,what you seen me with
It's a nice system ...
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In reply to Post #36 This is what I have. Went from a wychwood tactical to this and it’s much comfier. As discussed previously, the new version that replaced the benchmark lite, isn’t as light which is a shame.
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In reply to Post #34 If you can find one, the Avid Benchmark light is good and stupid light at about 6.5-7kg. I had one for about 5 years before one of the leg braces snapped clean through. I’d defo get another one if they are available anywhere when my current bed dies.
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In reply to Post #34 As mentioned before jrc x lite level is one of the lightest, I'm six foot and find it ok for length also one of the more comfortable beds I've used.
Designed for brolly use I think so quite low with limited leg adjustment.
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In reply to Post #33 So does anyone know what the lightest available bedchair currently available is? I wanted something light but couldn't find a Wychwood tactical x in stock anywhere and bought a Wychwood Riot Tactical bed which is light but the most uncomfortable and short bedchair I have ever used (for one night only)! I'm not getting any younger & need something a little longer and more comfortable than that! Any ideas? In the meantime, if anyone wants the aforementioned bed let me know Probably ideal for a youngster?
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In reply to Post #32 Think we also did it to ourselves. People want more comfort. I grew up sleeping on the floor when night fishing as a kid. You’d never catch them doing that now.
The amount of singular anglers I see setting up a 2 man for a night is hilarious. Just so they can have the extra space.
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In reply to Post #30 That’s my point. Manufacturers have made gear heavier by using cheaper materials, then claiming a 12kg bivvy is ultralite.
Carp fishing is so far behind in innovation compared to other sports/hobbies it’s embarrassing.
I’m definitely with you on using a brolly. Proper angling.
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In reply to Post #28 It's not about the weight of the load it's about the weight & bulk of the barrow.
One trip with the frame, another with the wheel, handle & bits pain in the butt if the cars half a street away, don't take anything unnecessary but it's too much to carry any distance without extra arms
Get that power barrows are great for taking the kitchen sink & great if you can drive it straight into a van but not everyone has that
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In reply to Post #29 Lightweight is lightweight when it’s relative. Most bedchairs are 10kg+ so anything under is lightweight isn’t it. Same with the current bivvy market.
With the advancement in barrows some kit gets heavier as people don’t mind as the barrow is powered.
Not for me. Give me a brolly and no groundsheet, leave the heavy bivvy for a camper.
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In reply to Post #26 I get what you're saying but light weight bivvy's have already been developed. What we're seeing is design going backwards.
The Aqua Products Aqualite is 3.5kg.
The Aqua Products Armadillo is 5.5kg.
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In reply to Post #27 Not sure of the logic there matey.
If you take 2 loads of heavy stuff and think a lightweight barrow is the answer to a single load what are you currently pushing. I may be missing something somewhere -lightweight bikes are built for relative loads not so you can have a passener
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Why can't someone make a decent lightweight barrow, all those push bikes with alloy frames do ok.
Maybe more expensive but I'd pay the extra if it saved the weight & 2 trips to the car to load the bloody thing as I have to park on the street.
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In reply to Post #25 Lightweight compared to the 20-35kg though that some are. It’s relative to the market
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In reply to Post #24 Yes the whole marketing bivvy’s as “lightweight” and “ultralight” when they’re 7kg to 15kg is an absolute joke.
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It will possibly marketed as lightweight but still be the same weight as most other bedchairs.
Same principle as the shelters over recent years.
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Not sure when it will be available but I believe ESP are working on a bedchair.
Dave Ellyatt has hinted at it.
He removed the elastic on his bedchair and uses cable ties to hold the mattress on.
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I used 4mm paracord to replsce the elastic. Firmer and lighter. 5.5 kg.
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In reply to Post #19 i made wooden blocks for my legs, out worktop. then drew my bedchair feet onto it,then screwed 2x1 timber battens round all 4 edges, so the legs sit inside,therfore they dont slip
if this makes sense ideal for unlevel banks..
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In reply to Post #18 I've got the xlite level bed, light & comfy, only downside for me is short legs on uneven banks.
Hunt the stone is often played
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In reply to Post #1 iv had a jrc xlite levelbed for my warmer months ,combined with a sim,its super light,and every bit as comfy as my mf60 sleep system,
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In reply to Post #12 Great job.
Thanks for sharing.
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Talon white plastic 22mm pipe clip from
b and q.
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In reply to Post #14
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All elastic replaced by 4 mm paracord.
Remove 3 rd leg.
Made new 3rd leg using 22mm pipe fitting / camera adapter and jag bank stick.
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In reply to Post #12 10mm wide cable ties replacing some, or all the elastics ?
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Just completed a quick project on my jrc and got it down to 5.5 kg.
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In reply to Post #1 Like others I opted for the one Gerry recommended, a wychwood one with a sim. I already had the sim so reduced the cost further. I tightened the elastic a little on mine to make it a bit harder, as I had the sim for comfort.
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In reply to Post #8 Also have one of these, very comfortable given the weight but the legs don't have a lot of adjustment for uneven ground, quite often have to seek the help of a friendly stone
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In reply to Post #8 Also got one and much easier to carry than the trakker rlx despite being a very similar weight.
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In reply to Post #1 Jrc xlite flat bed is what I have
Very light and comfortable it's quite low to the ground but that's one reason why I bought it 👍
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In reply to Post #6 I've used a benchmark life for years now, replaced the ropes with cable ties which saves about a kilo.
Sleep system weighs about 8-9kg, I use the heated mattress early spring and a Gardner cover through the winter and it's still only around 12-13kg
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In reply to Post #1 Avid Benchmark Lite? Had mine 4 years now and much prefer it to the Benchmark mk2 I had before it. That was insanely heavy and the weird leg spacings made it a pain to get on the barrow. I'm a side sleeper and prefer the lite as it has a bit of give in it, making it more comfy for side sleeping. I'm only 5'7” and 13st though. The bed on its own weighs 6.5kg from memory.
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In reply to Post #1 Another vote for the Wychwood Tactical X
Super light at 7.5kg
I'm 6,1, 16 stone and a side sleeper and comfort is ok, I used to use a Mountain Equipment Helium 3.8 SIM, but found it too inslating in the warmer months.
Without it its ok for a couple of nights.
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Trakker RLX6, I am about your size and height and done me fine for 3 seasons already.
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I use a trakker rlx superlite there around 7kg I think.
I'm 6ft 2 it's ok.
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In reply to Post #1 Might be a little short (I'm 6'1" and its fine) but for lightweight / flatness and value the Wychwood Tactical X Compact is a good choice (7.5kg) - use mine on the rivers / quick overnighters travelling light etc. Ideally needs a SIM but for 24hrs doable without . .
Tactical X Standard 'was' my previous session bedchair but replaced with SP-CTech which is only marginally more comfy but significantly heavier!
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Hi all.
I have recently sent back my second fox duralite due to issues with the legs. This time I have asked for a refund as the design/manufacturing is obviously poor.
So I'm in the market for a good quality lightweight sleep system or bedchair. I'm 6'3 and 15 stone. The duralite was a squeeze but ok size wise.
Has anyone got any recommendations, tried and tested over a decent period of time ideally.
Cheers.
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