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In reply to Post #50
I'm new to fishing Fluoro this year so put 12lb Kontour on a small water setup and do believe has given me an edge, I definitely feel like I've caught more fish this year.
The water I'm on is getting clearer now the temps dropping too so I do think it will continue to benefit my approach.
I can cast about 80 yards using a 4oz lead but don't normally fish anywhere near that distance, maybe 30/40 yards
One thing I did have happen was that I lost my first few fish on it. I put this down to little/no stretch in the line so I play fish on a slightly lighter clutch to compensate for this.
What Mark said about sensitivity is spot on, it really surprised me to begin with how much feedback I get from semi slack lines it's like you get a warning before the run 👍.
I've still got mono on a set of spools but looking at putting some stronger Fluoro on my pits and have been looking at seaguar options and xline basically because it seems to be so cheap compared to the others.
I have wondered about using tubing with it but decided that defeats the object so I've had about 4ft 25lb as a bit of a leader and to help avoid rig twists which has worked OK for me too
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In reply to Post #50
100% you should. Gardner Mirage is good, X-Line is also good. Ditch the flying back leads, you do not need them whatsoever. Ditch the back leads, you do not need them whatsoever. There's not much point in using either with flouro. I'd go as far as to say you are losing it's best properties by doing so.
Fish a bit more than semi slack, keep peeling off line until the lines are sitting off your tips at around 5pm if you were looking at your tips from the side. This is still so sensitive to any movement at the lead end. Far more so than mono which when fished slack is pretty useless.. The weight of the flouro in the water keeps a tension on the line that easily registers even very small movements. By adding back leads to that you are taking away what it does best Roger. Keep it clean by reeling in through a rag/tissue every time. It's far stronger than mono, just not over short lengths where it suffers from shock.
If you don't fish at range, it's a far better option than mono in my opinion. Especially in the winter when there's no weed.
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So for about the 5th time in 40 years shall I go with flouro and if so which one.
I can’t cast any I’ve tried 90yards.
My lake has a tubing rule
I use flying back leads and traditional back leads
I use a semi slack line.
Is the investment and frustration worth it?
Interested in not just which to use but what edge you think it brings in actual situations
Cheers
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In reply to Post #48
When stretched I was getting around 110 yards on 12ft rods. But wouldn’t want to try any more
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What sort of distances are you 20lb X Line users hitting?
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In reply to Post #46
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In reply to Post #45
UNaffected 
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In reply to Post #42
You can buy 600m tiger line for As low as £74.99 if you shop around and dont forget unless you actually damage it on a snag or something it wont need changing for a few years as its totally unaffected by sunlight, water etc unlike normal mono so it can work out quite cost effective
for instance LINKY POO  
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In reply to Post #42
You can buy 600m tiger line for As low as £75.99 if you shop around and dont forget unless you actually damage it on a snag or something it wont need changing for a few years as its totally affected by sunlight water etc unlike normal mono
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In reply to Post #42
You don't put 600m on each reel,you put backing on and 200m on each reel.I still wouldn't pay that though either
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In reply to Post #39
£104 for a spool of mono f that 300 quid to spool up 3 big pit reels think I’ll stick to gr60 or the likes off
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In reply to Post #40
Any one use ridge monkey flouro coated line
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X line for me never let me down
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my local tackle shop has tiger line 600m for £103.99 anyone used suffix flourocarbon... not the coated mono.
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In reply to Post #37
Even use the 20lb version for my hooklinks....never snapped.
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X Line for me, never had an issue
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In reply to Post #32
not paying any attention to those tests. they use what knot they decide, not the one specified by the manufacturers. flawed tests IMO
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In reply to Post #34
For a fair few years on X-line, and never had issue's..
use the 17 & 20lb versions.
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Hearing good reports about P Line Halo fluro it’s about £60
For 600 meters
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In reply to Post #32
What is better about tiger to the fox you think mate?
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In reply to Post #31
I used it in 16lb had carp to 54lb with no problems decent line same with Gardner Mirage and Tiger line
and IMHO ALL
a lot better than X-Line that that has always snapped below its stated strain ok so it sinks the fastest but at what expense ?
check out the tackle box line tests  LINKY POO
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Anyone got any comparison with fox illusion?
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In reply to Post #1
can't fault 17lb X line tbh. yes it can be a bit frappy at times, but similarly i have also hit casts up to 125 yards with it no problem at all (probably get more if it wasn't for the fact i was using soft rods..)
sinks well, strong as anything and can sling a lead. does it all!
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In reply to Post #23
That’s the Jasper 👍
Exactly the same and cheaper too as it’s aimed at the shore fishing community.
As it was for the carp market
My normal setup seems to be a lot lighter than what is the norm now with 12lb line and size 8 hooks, whereas 18lb+ and size 6 seems to be the norm 🫤. Finding it 12lb is challenging. 15lb is not so bad but still uncommon, 18lb plus is easier.
It’s the same stuff 👍
I got this for a France trip where the lake had minimum 15lb rule. From the note stuffed in the spool wrapper I know it is the sea version as I never bought 15lb in the carp version.
I accept this is not true flouro, and some may not be keen, but it sinks well, behaves once settled down, but having used it and seen its invisibility, I can put up with any of its shortcomings. 👍
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In reply to Post #27
Moved from X line to tiger line around 4/5 years ago and never looked at anything else since - it does everything I want from a fluro and is as tough as old boots, that and technium black mono all bases covered
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In reply to Post #26
At £76 for 600 metres it should be, before Gardner got hold of it a 1000 metre spool was cheaper than that. I really liked the Diawa Super Soft fluro, sadly they don’t make that anymore.
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In reply to Post #20
I agree Tiger line just needs a good stretch and a little time to bed in and its head and shoulders over others IMHO had lots of big fish in snaggy swims with never a worry its just the perfect line 
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In reply to Post #20
I like it for the same reasons but would return to Synchro XT if I had to cast consistently; I believe my results have picked up since using fluro mainline this season; primarily ease of getting the line sunk over multiple undulations but also takes at range and being able to connect / control quicker with the lack of stretch . . .
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In reply to Post #1
Another one for x line, very happy and confident with it at 17 or 20 breaking strain
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In reply to Post #19
Is it the ultima power steel, flouro coated
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In reply to Post #19
Any name for this sea line?
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In reply to Post #20
i am also a fan of x-line 20lbs. takes a few trips to settle down but once it has it is great.
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X-Line is a flourocarbon line, not coated mono. Always has been as far as I’m aware. Can’t see the point in a coated mono, worst of both worlds.
The benefits of flouro over mono for me are the decreased stretch, abrasion resistance and the way it sinks, in that order. If you use a proper flouro like X-line or Tiger and give it time to bed in then it’s not a problem to use. I think a lot of people put it on, panic that it’s a bit more unruly than mono off the spool and strip it off before it beds in.
I’ll use braid with a flouro leader 100% of the time if the rules allow. If they don’t then Xline straight through is the next best thing. Going back to mono feels stodgy and dull with all the stretch. Mono is for nods
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In reply to Post #9
Ultima did Ultima Carp line that was a flouro coated mono that had its devotee’s, myself included.
It was a bit springy when new but was OK when used for a while became manageable and it sank well. It biggest plus was its invisabity. When I saw it side by side with a bog standard mono the difference was amazing.
They stopped making it for the carp market but if you look around they still do a sea fishing line and the blurb on the packaging is exactly the same - flouro coated mono. It is more difficult finding it in the lower breaking strains but a spin off is that it is cheaper as the word carp is not used so avoids carp tax 
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In reply to Post #17
Ive used sinking mono and flourocarbon, and feel the cons, far outweigh the pros.
Normal mono will sink, and aslong as youre not fishing bow tight lines, and let the line sttle before setting your indicators etc, you can get a decent amount on the deck. Any more than about 2-3 meters from the rig end is unnecessary in my opinion.
And the more line in the bottom of the lae, the more bite indication is effected. Youre better off spending a bit of time after casting, letting the line settle, than worrying about changing the mailine. I use a 750mm - 1 metre long unleaded leader and syncro xt, and have no worries at all about the rig end being suspended. Light hangers and slightly slack lines for short to medium range and no issues with the line being pulled up that end either.
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In reply to Post #16
Is XLine a pure fluro or simply a coated one? Thought the original release was a coated mono - has this changed?
I'm using a boat so not being able to cast is not the end of the world - also like the low stretch of fluros especially when boating out at range as this is a massive advantage over mono
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I've used 17lb X Line without any issues, tough as old boots and casts ok as well for Fluoro
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In reply to Post #14
Rig marole FLX for me, used it for years, no problem at all, it's flouro coated so behave much better than pure flouro
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In reply to Post #1
20lb x line for me as well. It won't cast far but nothing sinks like it! Been using it for at least 10 years
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In reply to Post #9
PB control 24lb
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In reply to Post #1
Another vote for X line. Have used the 17lb for some year, sinks like a stone but a bit of a nightmare to cast any distance.
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In reply to Post #9
Good sinking mono is Fox Exocet. Never had any issues with it.
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In reply to Post #1
20lb x line for me as well. It won't cast far but nothing sinks like it! Been using it for at least 10 years
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In reply to Post #7
What good quality sinking mono would you recommend?
Another 20lb X-Line user here.
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In reply to Post #1
I've been using gardner mirage for around a year on a small water. I've used the 14lb version and it's been good. I even use it on small reels and, whilst it does need looking after, its performed brilliantly. Found a palomar knot is the best to use for this line b/s.
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In reply to Post #6
Flouro reel line is more a pain in the neck than its worth. I would go for a good quality sinking mono. The only one is used that was OK was Korda 12lb.
If you have big arbour spools you could get away with some flouro's but its a lot of faff.
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20lb X-Line is still the one for me. Casts fine for a 0.37 line, sinks great, pretty well behaved for a flouro and it’s a decent price. Also tried the Berkeley stuff (CF600?) which was fine for 6 months then went brittle and wouldn’t take a knot. The Korda Kontour shredded too easily in weed. I just stick to Xline now
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In reply to Post #1
Seagaur Invix
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In reply to Post #2
Straight throw with Tiger sees my maximum cast at about 60 yards, brilliant stuff but a casters nightmare, stripped it after 1st session and now only use for leaders, obviously just my experience and noddy casting!
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In reply to Post #1
Well it isn't Korda Kontour in 18lb I'm afraid . . . springy / casts like a pig / needs constant line management - sinks brilliantly however and is reasonable vfm / easy to top up spools by buying 3x 200m's!
Going to try PB Products Ghost Dragonfly in 15/18lb next based on multiple recommendations . . .
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In reply to Post #1
gardner mirage or gardner tiger line
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As title suggest,
Please can I get recommendations for the best fluro mainline?
Fishing a small place so casting at range isn’t necessary.
Cheers
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