 Baitworks Points....
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In reply to Post #38
Grind it up in an ice cube crusher and incorporate it into spod mix. You don’t have to feel like you’ve wasted money then!
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In reply to Post #37
Thanks for the reply. I hear you regards not worrying about the Sticky baits being hard… that’s what I’ve been telling myself. It’s just becoming an itch to scratch by now though!
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In reply to Post #33
Have used all 4 of their baits & found them excellent.
I found Royal Marine the softest, but no problems getting it out in a wet stick (seagulls permitting). If necessary I just spod it out.
I wouldn't worry about the baits you have being hard. I have used air dried baits that are hard as marbles & caught with them
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Thanks guys, good to hear. Did you use Atlantic Heat during the winter and spring? How did you do?
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Always used Atlantic heat in boilies fresh and shelf life and pellets and paste and have scent from hells mixed sizes and colours in a pot so I don’t have to take loads of pots with me.
One thing I don’t have to worry about when I go.
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In reply to Post #33
Ive been using scent from hell hook baits for the past 3 years with a good catch rate.
This year I'm also using Atlantic Heat which has caught me some good fish.
The baits are very soft so you need some hard hook baits to use with them.
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In reply to Post #32
Quite a timely post as I am also looking to try Baitworks.
I've been using Sticky so far this year. I bought in bulk in March, but have never really been happy and it's starting to nag at me. I bought 25kg of Manilla and 25kg of Krill shelf life in mixed sizes, plus a load of matching pellets, liquids and hookbaits. Every bag of boilies I have opened so far have been like bullets. They really are stones and it's impacting my confidence in the bait.
I've got to the point where I can mentally square away the wasted money, so I'm looking at Baitworks who - this thread aside - seemed to have generally good reviews, especially with regards to the softness of the baits.
Interested in people's views, and a suggestion as to which of their range I should go for in the first instance? They seem to suggest all of their baits are suitable for year-round use so I'm interested in people's experiences on how the baits have performed and under what kind-of conditions you favour them.
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Found this post from few years ago was thinking of making my first Baitworks order of Atlantic heat. Quite a few negatives knocking BW but not Found many other negative reviews.
Anybody had any issues with the bait of late. I'm hoping it'll be a good quality bait if I order.
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In reply to Post #29
We call em "a***holes" 
It's a combination of things that can cause it.
Too long in the rollers - Caused by a firmer / dryer paste
bait not binding properly during the forming - Caused by oil coating bigger particles
Now, boilie production, and getting it "cock on" is trial and error and things change, ingredients aren't consistent 12 months of the year no matter how high quality they are, and things like oil and gluten content can shift (slightly, not huge levels) and this will effect the diameter the sausage needs to be. now, in one of their videos, I noticed they'd had made some custom metal nozzles, I get why, there bait is coarse, I myself burn through nozzles so I can easily see it happening to theirs, especially if they roll their paste on the firm side, as boilie dough typically needs to be a lot softer to go through the rollers, slightly "tacky" as that tack grips the blades of the machine and helps pull itself through the rollers.
square finishing, as someone else said, isn't to do with the rollers not being close enough but rather the sausage too small, it goes squared ends, to weird oval, to perfect round, to expanded bumholes depending on the size of the sausage.
Thats why not matter how big you are you need to monitor boilies coming out the machine for defects, you cant tell by naked eye with the nozzle either at this stage you need to use a vernier. and a decent one that reliable does two decimal points of a millimetre. if I roll at 11.27 / 11.39 for 15mm on the boilies Im doing today, the world smiles and the sun shines, if I go over, its headache time lol.
this is a different measurement for each bait as well, and as I say can fluctuate. hence why I feel metal nozzles limit your capability to react to said fluctuations.
Having said that, some of the rolled gear Ive seen from them hasnt been caused by this but rather a lack of care in taking out offcuts and monitoring the machine ( so kick back gets added by mistake ).
Kick back, just for reference, is where a sausage drops onto the rollers before the previous one has the chance to go through, this causes one of them, usually the previous one, to kick up and be pulled over the front roller as opposed to go through the blades, meaning you have virtually an entire sausage make it through.
This isnt a problem in single roller systems that have one circular blade resting in a curves recess bowl blade, but this format of machine doesn't roll anywhere near round bait.
Not saying its right that ts happened to you AT ALL just giving some insight into what may have occurred.
Its strange because there will have been lots of human operated steps after rolling in which the quality should of been checked. its quite possible that mabe some who work there are more relaxed than others about it
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In reply to Post #26
I must be good then as I have caught on custard cream biscuits .. jelly babies , baked beans and a ciagarette filter
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In reply to Post #28
not oval, but circular with the middle bid uncompressed so you could almost see through the boilies
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In reply to Post #27
Oval? That sounds like nozzle too big. With the amount they roll the nozzle should be right, the mix may have been soft so it expanded after it was extruded. Consistency off.
If they were a bit square, too big a gap between the rollers. Depends on the machine they use.
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In reply to Post #25
snap., my baitworks delivery contained many un formed balls, as though they were rolled on rollers too big, thus not compressed the balls enough. Good bait, caught a few last year, but mainly on alternative hookbaits over their bait
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In reply to Post #19
Gaz - I would of thought he wouldn't be associated with naff bait ??
A good angler/angling will catch on any bait, boilie or otherwise 
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In reply to Post #24
It's funny, all of us pick up the miss rolls, but I don't know a single company owner that themselves fishes with round bait, it's like the chefs piece of a meat cut lol
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Never had a problem with bw when I used it for 5 years all be it the odd end of the boilie sausage was in the bag now and then but ways found the boilies to be good quality and had plenty usaing all of there range
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In reply to Post #22
Was looking at bait works last year for something different to try glad I didn't go ahead with buying some,I went with DNA and happy so far with the bait, just ordered 10kilo of the bug at show prices so giving this a try this year as I tried the slk last year.
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In reply to Post #20
Bait companies targets arent "old" carp anglers that know a thing or two about bait for some time now... There is thousands of "newcomers" and wannabes in this sport... They dont care, they buy what gets more likes and responses on fb and insta... They dont care how some old bait used to look.. they are after just released new bait that did wonders in "testing" and next year they will be after new one again...
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In reply to Post #19
And Simon Scott. Nuff said.
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In reply to Post #19
Everyone has a price
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Hasn't Gaz Fareham just joined bait works from sticky ??
And also joined esp from TA ...
I would of thought he wouldn't be associated with naff bait ??
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In reply to Post #15
Any bait that's very red is had dye in it now, Robin red isn't red. Any bait that contains it, and is red, contains dye I promise you. Maybe in addition to Robin red but still
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In reply to Post #16
They just don't seem to be ‘that kind of guy' to me. Most carp anglers are abysmal and are always quick to blame anything other than their own laziness for poor results. I'm no fanboy and have no connection whatsoever with the company, but I have had very good results on their bait as have others that I know. I'm really surprised by some of the comments here. Not a dig at anyone btw but I will happily be ordering bait from Baitworks in a few weeks time.
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In reply to Post #15
In my experience people do some very strange and unexpected things when it comes to money.
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In reply to Post #9
I've mentioned this before and certain people didn't like it.. But... Over 10 years ago, I picked up a batch of Monster Red directly from Mark at his old unit. First time I'd tried it, but the bait had an amazing taste and smell. Quite unique and I was impressed. Using it was strange, it seemed to either work very very well on some lakes, and be useless on others. But overall i liked it.
Fast forward about 6 years. Based on my recommendation, a friend bought a load for a campaign. The bait he got (apart from being red) bore little resemblance to what I'd purchased years before. The garlicy rich spicy cream taste had gone, and it was now just a hot chilli taste. Red dye used, blatantly obvious it wasn't RR. The smell wasn't the same, nothing like as rich. However, when my friend (very good experienced angler) used it, the results were terrible, couldn't buy a bite on it..
Maybe it is due to some ingredients becoming unavailable, and Mark seems a decent fellow, and I can't comment on the other baits, but something is not what it once was....
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In reply to Post #13
Yeah it's true Mozzi we always hear the negatives
And as I stated below this is only what people tell me down the phone
I haven't seen the products. When I worked at Blake's many of the customers there were former baitworks users
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In reply to Post #8
Do you not find though, that more often than not we will be the ones to hear peoples opinion?
there is aways a " I stopped using so and so because ", I find it quite interesting. I've had people come from brands that I guarantee you you'll think extremely highly of same as I do, but on the flip side there are people who almost militantly defend brands that we know produce extremely sub par products.
There is bait being sold for £2.50 per kilo at NAS this year, Im sure we'll start hearing about those baits soon 
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In reply to Post #4
I saw a photo of some baits and it seems they're not "picking it" which is the process after rolling in which you intercept misrolls.
I don't use the bait and haven't but if consistency is an issue I think the first thing should be to ring, I for one would certainly want to know if an error had occurred, however it doesn't seem to be the case as its quite widespread.
There is one thing I can say about bait works and that is, when people like it, then they really like it, when they don't, they really don't.
There doesn't seem to be an "its alright" opinion ?
I know he hired a general manager but I'd find it hard to believe mark wouldnt be involved in QC still.
odd goings on the last couple of years.
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In reply to Post #8
That's pretty damning but is not in line with my own experiences which have been positive.
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I only use their Scent From Hell hookbaits. Never had any issues with consistency or buoyancy.
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In reply to Post #6
The bait I got was a bit like a cheap copy of what a mate had been using a few seasons before. Didn't have anywhere near the quality of B5.
The pots of various hook baits were terrible, the only ones that were any good were the hard hookers, they actually looked like the bait my mate had used in the past.
All the liquids went manky, kept just as the B5 ones were and they never skipped a beat.
Overall I got the feeling that maybe some ingredients had been swapped for a cheaper equivalent but I don't know .
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In reply to Post #6
The common themes, are poorly rolled baits, poor hookbaits, and the biggest one is the people who buy large amounts in January sales and suffer poor results. You have to remember that it is very easy to complain about one brand to another and I also understand that the anglers often look to blame something when bites don't happen (and the bait is the first one) But this is so predominant and recurring in the last year that I can predict the brands when the person on the phone says that they have had poor results in the last year.
It goes a lot deeper and some of the customers comments are so accurate and matching that it must be an issue for many. I'd like to say again that this is not my own comments as I'm always very careful in this industry not to go round making up nonsense. But I can literally guarantee that I will have the same conversation more than once in the next week. There must be some reason why it's being reproduced so much. One bloke moaning is often a case that he just didn't get on with a bait for some reason, but when 3 calls in a row say the same things there must be issues. Has it changed hands or something? I don't follow other brands so I'm completely out of the loop with what's going on and often learn things here on the forum.
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In reply to Post #1
I agree the new point system is pants 1 pence for every pound you spend I think, I've used the baits for a couple of seasons now, always done well in spring and terrible in summer, not sure if it's the baits fault or mine lol
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In reply to Post #5
I used their bait for the last couple of years.....I have been very impressed, and have used high quality bait for many years.
Why grievances have you heard from people, I'm very surprised by your post.
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In reply to Post #4
Working in the bait game, you get to see and hear about all of the brands that produce good and bad products. In all of my time working in my previous role and since starting my own brand I have to say that baitworks is mentioned the most and not in a positive way. I haven't seen any of their products for a while but I would say 90 percent of customers who ring me looking for a new bait are complaining about baitworks. For the reasons stated below. For such a big brand I find it odd that there is so much negativity. I'm not saying this to have a dig as I couldn't care less what others do but they clearly have issues as I have the same conversations day after day.
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In reply to Post #2
Had a 100kg dabble 18 months ago after a long time on B5.
Must say I was not impressed, freezer bait very inconsistently rolled and a lot of ****ty bits in the bags. Liquids and pots of hook baits etc were the worst I've seen in years.
Back along DF and Korda were pushing them in their videos and you'd see them about a fair bit, they've dropped off the social media cliff over the last two years, a fast disappearing brand if you ask me.
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In reply to Post #1
Yeah its absolutely garbage now a friend went to do his the other day and its nothing compared to what it was before they updated the website
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In reply to Post #1
Not impressed myself by the loss of points, and my results on their food baits last year dropped off. Having a change this year after 5 years using their baits. No doubt I'll be back on it again at some point as had some great results over the years.
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Notice Baitworks have now changed their points reward system....I don't use their stuff now but remembered I had points stacked up from an order a while back so thought i would get some pellets.
Now on their new website the points equate to a monetary discount...I have 861 points which gives a "credit" of £8.61 to use....previously you used to be able to use points towards things and it worked out a lot better than that, I remember looking back in October and my points would have got me 5K of boilies...
Hardly worth having...
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