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NickGordon

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#10 12 May 2021 at 9.12pm

In reply to Post #1
Long ago I did some experiments with leadcore, I am very happy to endorse it being banned on any, in fact any leader should be off limits if there are weed or snags.
No fixed rigs, no problem, you can fish a run ring with a tight line (bolt rig), or totally free running with a slack line.

As for you must use tubing, if someone believes naked mainline can lift scales, then be happy to use running leads on tubing (it does work).

Simple answer is to stay within rules on both lakes, fish a length of tubing slightly longer than your rigs, or if you fish rigs less than a foot, use a foot or 300mm of tubing.

Joe101

Posts: 1085

#9 11 May 2021 at 5.35pm

It's annoying, and sometimes you want to fish a heli etc. But if the water has got decent fish and you're after catching them, just crack on with it and play by the rules.

Not many people use a running rig, so you might find the fish don't know how to deal with it, and you'll probably have some good results.

The-Heff

Posts: 3356

#8 11 May 2021 at 4.46pm

In reply to Post #7
Most daft rules exist because there are too many muppets fishing. Even with the amount of info out there, people are still doing stupid things. The rules have to cater for the lowest denominator.

I was flicking through instagram stories the other day, and neil spooner was answering questions. One such question, about korda safe zone leaders, was �can i connect these to my mainline using quick release clip�.

Totally agree about the naked set up rules though, no sense whatsover. Fishing zigs, floater fishing etc is all good, but if your fishing on the bottom you must have 18 meters of tubing.

If i ever go to day ticket lakes, i expect to see stupid rules. Some places you wouldnt expect to have stupid rules do however, yately sandhurst for example, has some pearlers

DaveToland

Posts: 7266

#7 11 May 2021 at 1.55pm

Daft rules, lakes like this do everyone's head in.
No fixed leads, must be running.... so what about semi fixed? Which is what most people use.
A fixed lead is essentially a lead that is either tied on, or permanently fixed on in some way so it can never come off, which literally nobody has used for about 30 years.
A semi fixed lead is one where it can come off either on the take, or when it gets snagged - as per a lead clip, or a helicopter setup, where the lead can essentially come off if the main line breaks. You can also use something called a C-clip, or a heli-safe which makes a helicopter rig eject the lead like a lead clip would (on the take, or if it got snagged).
There's also ways of tieing up an inline lead so it can come off, but of course those rules are so ambiguous you can't tell.

Best bet would be to speak to a bailif and ask them. Look into the above things I've mentioned, tie up a few, and then show them to the bailif and ask which if any are allowed. If it really is a case of only running leads, then firstly that's stupid, but secondly, you can still catch fish with running leads.

Also, you can use other materials as "leaders" - flurocarbon, for example. It doesn't have to be an expensive shop bought thing made by Korda.

What on earth is a naked rig? Presumably they mean you must have a leader, or a tubing... does that apply to floater fishing as well? Does that mean you can use 8lb line, with a 10lb fluro leader? Which is no different to main line straight through. Daft rules, unfortunately some lakes have em.

OatcakeFred

Posts: 1428

#6 9 May 2021 at 2.26pm

In reply to Post #4
Don't use Safe Zone leaders so I'm not 100% certain, but I'm sure I've seen the Korda guys using them on a running rig. Google it or look on youtube, I'm sure you'll find it.

zulu321

Posts: 11

#5 9 May 2021 at 1.42pm

In reply to Post #3
Thank you. Most of the lakes around me have similar rules and trying to figure out what I need. Looks like I can't use safe zone leader anymore as it's semi fixed lead rather than running lead?

zulu321

Posts: 11

#4 9 May 2021 at 1.38pm

In reply to Post #2
Thanks but in my understanding I can't use korda safe zone leader as it's not running lead?

Golden-Paws

Posts: 247

#3 9 May 2021 at 12.58pm

In reply to Post #1
Unfortunately it means that the waters you fish are run by a jobsworth type of Committee who don't have a clue what they are doing or why!

I have used Korda Safezone leaders for many years and have not have any issues, such as lifting of scales or any other damage. I did use tubing at first but it just seems so blatant and I'm sure the fish start to recognize where it ends as a danger spot.

Lead core does have a bit of a reputation and to honest, I've never used it as I prefer the Safezone.

Running rigs are a way of getting around fish being tethered if a lead clip is pushed on too hard. Unfortunately some Committees just impose blanket bans on anything rather relying on common sense.

I fished one water near to me once that had a lot of silly rules but decided it wasn't worth the hassle and haven't been back since. You've just to weigh up whether you want to fish like that or go somewhere more peaceful.

OatcakeFred

Posts: 1428

#2 9 May 2021 at 12.56pm

In reply to Post #1
Regarding the first venue, you can use both tubing (at least 12") or lead free leaders. So, leadcore leaders are not allowed. Think Ken Townley did a really good post or article on here about the dangers of leadcore, which is why a lot of places ban it. The Korda safe zone are lead free so you should be OK. Think there are plenty of lead free leaders out there also.

The second venue, no leaders whatsoever, so get threading that rig tubing!!

Hope this helps.

zulu321

Posts: 11

#1 9 May 2021 at 11.46am

Hello,

I'm still new to carp fishing and struggling to understand some of the fishery rules. Until now I was using korda safe zone leader but fishery recently changed rules to following :

Leaders and tubing are a must leaders must be lead free and tubing must be 12 inches long
No naked rigs
No fixed leads they must be running

Also other lake I found has in the rules : "No leadcore or leaders of any description."

Could you try to explain what it actually means please? Obviously don't want to break any rules on lake but confused how to fish.

Thanks


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