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In reply to Post #5
I myself have used this very rig to great effect in lengths from 7" to 12" and it works for me.
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In reply to Post #21
Exactly the setup I use. Great combo 
I’ve personally never stripped any coating. I know there is a recent youtube video which suggests making a tiny break in the coating helps with hooking properties. This may well be true, I’m just simply speaking from experience of my own fishing
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In reply to Post #23
I strip back a small section about 2cms behind the hook I prefer the movement for the hook, in my opinion this gets you bites quicker than a standard German with coated braid right through
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In reply to Post #22
Do you strip back the coating or fish coated hooklink to the hook
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In reply to Post #21
I actually found I get much better hook holds on a German rig with a wide gape hook and a bit of shrink tube or a kicker, never really got along with a curve shank hook for my Germans
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In reply to Post #20
Exactly. I notice that too many people position the hook bead too close to the bend of the hook, whereas with the bead closer to the eye, a nice curve shank hook will drop into a prone position much more effectively. I’m using Ridgemonkey Apex medium curves and find that the bead dead opposite the hook point is perfect.
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I have recently noticed that the hook bead position can play a big part in how the hook turns downwards once the bait is picked up. I have always used a hook kicker on my German rigs too. Again I have found the positioning of this to be important. Before you cast out lift the bait with your thumb and finger and check the hook drops down into a hooking position. If not, try adjusting the position of the bead/kicker until it does so!
Fantastic rig that has served me well over the years. Use with confidence
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In reply to Post #18
Of the rig or the fish?
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In reply to Post #5
Any pictures pal
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In reply to Post #5
exactly how i use it. great rig
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In reply to Post #15
D rig kicker is a lot easier
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In reply to Post #14
If you want separation just tie a hair on? Rig ring with a 3 cm loop or something..........
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In reply to Post #12
Yeah I think looking at them side by side I would favour the slip d over the German I just like some seperation
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In reply to Post #11
 you cant tell some people
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Personally find the slip d a much better rig
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In reply to Post #10
I’ve settled on using a Korda d rig kicker,Spinner swivel & 25lb boom with size 4 mugga using the D rig kicker gives a better angle for me
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In reply to Post #8
Do you find the angle of the eye on the mugga closes the gape too much? or are you happy with it as is?
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In reply to Post #8
Just done one with a size 4 mugga & esp semi stiff 8-9 inch approx
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In reply to Post #7
Standard mate. Never used the turbo as never had the need.
Buy some size 4 muggas 
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In reply to Post #5
Standard German Over Turbo ?
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In reply to Post #5
Tied 2 up the first as you describe same components,the other with a size 6 esp trig Hamer and a Korda kicker...have to say the Korda kicker one sits a lot better for me but I can’t argue with the results people have on your set up mate,I’m gonna fish them side by side next week...little bag of chops on each one see what happens
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In reply to Post #4
ESP tungsten semi stiff, size 4 mugga, swivel on the shank stopped by the knotless knot one end and a hook bead opposite the barb. Big dollop of putty about 1 to 11/2 inches from the hook and any wafter from 12 to 18mm. 2 inch loop at the other end of the hooklink
No shrik tube, no 'D's, nothing more and nothing less. Fanstastic wafter rig that i have caught hundreds of carp on to over 65lb in the last few years. Dont over complicate it
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In reply to Post #3
How is the best way to set it up ? Use a swivel with the hook ? D rig kicker maybe ? Or just straight whipped to the hook maybe some shrink tube ?
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In reply to Post #1
If you lay the rig down flat out and then use your finger and thumb to pick the bait up (mimicking a carp sucking up the bait) you will see that the hook turns easily so the point has a very good chance of penetrating the bottom lip.
Aided by the putty or shot around an inch or so below the hook.
My hook of choice is a wide gape.
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In reply to Post #1
Loads of fish have fell victim to micro-swivels and bait screws on the hook wouldnt worry about... If you want some distance maybe look at some d rig kickers to push the bait further away?
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How are people finding this just tied some up worries me that there isn’t much distance from bait to hook,like hair rigs have that separation. ?
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