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In reply to Post #562
I agree, that any book you read from a high profile angler these days, has probably already been published in some form or other previously, especially from someone like TH who makes his living from angling.
It's not a new thing though - even 'In Pursuit' suffered from it, because all the early Yateley chapters in the book, had already been published in Rob Maylins Big Carp magazine in the early 90's.
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I enjoyed it - who wouldn't enjoy the writings of Terry and read about his adventures however, (might take some flack here), it felt like i was reading regurgitated material and stories. I suppose social media, magazine writings and ESP videos had already compromised a lot of these stories and i felt that i knew the ending before starting each chapter, i just felt a little bit (only a small bit) of magic has been lost when reading books nowadays and to be honest i thought i would never say that about a TH book.
I remember reading "in pursuit" and each page was captivating as you went through the story making up assumptions on what is going to happen next - you just don't get that nowadays as it's already out there.
Don't get me wrong, the book will stand front and centre on the old bookcase and be regularly thumbed.
I look forward to the all species book that TH will hopefully publish, i reckon he can recapture the magic (ala Yates) telling stories that nobody knows the ending of.
Be lucky.
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Received my reprint edition last week. Perfectly well packaged. Read the first 3 chapters and no obvious print issues. More importantly, I’m enjoying it!
I agree about the crazy prices that some books go for-kind of wish I’d looked after some of my first editions better. But then again, I buy to read and enjoy, not as an investment.
That said, I might flog my Subsurface 1 if only to help stock the freezer for the year ahead.
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In reply to Post #559
Not just carp books where the market is hotting up either, it’s the same with all species at the moment, for certain books. A mate of mine sold his whole collection a couple of years ago when the market was on its knees and he is feeling pretty sick about it now! It’s definitely a case of picking the right books though and print run is obviously the main factor which has pushed up prices for Waddle, Merry Olde, Alan Tomkins etc.
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In reply to Post #558
I have a spare Horton Chronicles, defo time for that to go by the looks of it.
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In reply to Post #557
Even the more recent ones are going for silly money, Savay and Horton Chronicles over £100
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In reply to Post #555
Yes the book prices have shot yo again in recent months, partly because of the resurgence in collecting and partly due to the drought in recent books. There are collectors out there at the moment who will buy multiple copies of, for example, Waiting for Waddle, Merry Olde Dance etc, and sit on them as an investment.
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In reply to Post #549
There is a 1st edition up at the moment.
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In reply to Post #551
Good profit to be made in carp books, especially the ones with a small print run,
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In reply to Post #550
I know I was bidding and maxed out at 110
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In reply to Post #551
Green gate is no longer available buddy.
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In reply to Post #550
So you can buy this online people are selling eBay for more than they paid?
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In reply to Post #549
Went for £112 and was a 2nd edition .
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In reply to Post #548
Only one I can see is a first edition that went for 200 on 27th jan.
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In reply to Post #512
Does anybody know how much Beyond The Green Gate went for on eBay early yesterday evening? I forgot to look before the bid time expired.
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In reply to Post #544
Great read so far, maybe 1st few pages a litlle bit off but than it just sucks you in.
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BEWARE, for those ho[ing to buy a 1st edition, on the bay at the moment there are sellers advertising these books as new and unread and collectable, yet they dont tell the buyer that its a 2021 second edition which is available from Calm for £35 plus delivery.
Although sellers are doing nothing wrong, they are not given all the information, on the bay right now there are bids of over £50 for these with 2 or 3 days to go!!
It always pays to read description and ask the seller, especially if it does not state its a 1st edition.
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In reply to Post #541
I’m re-reading it at the minute. Great book
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In reply to Post #541
That's my next book to start reading
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In reply to Post #541
Yup, still on the mkf ticket I believe.
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In reply to Post #540
to not open new thread... just reading holmess forces of nature chapter conningbrook... is that water still fishable? what happened to it on the end?
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In reply to Post #539
Yeah carp books in particular are terrible for it. I guess ultimately the authors are anglers as opposed to writers. But I agree it doesnt hurt to hit the spell check once in a while 
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In reply to Post #538
I've read books with numerous shocking spelling errors and God knows what, and seen subtitled videos with the spelling of a 6 year old. With spellcheck there's no excuse. Didn't spoil the content of the book though but it did wind me up LOL
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In reply to Post #536
I agree that calm are shambolic, and I agree that they need to be told.
But I cant be bothered to labour my point regards the read itself for a third time.
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In reply to Post #536
Let’s get real. A couple of faded words makes zero difference to the read of the book. Hardy worth crying about. If you had pages missing or paragraphs hard to read then by all means spit your dummy out. But over a couple of words, which incidentally are still readable? Doesn’t exactly warrant this level of upset does it 
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In reply to Post #530
Regardless of what your purchasing and what it costs your paying for a product which should be free of any faults or defects
It's upto you wether you accept it or not
Calm need to improve the quality of product and service after this book release though. The only way to do that is by their customers highlighting the errors in the book.
Maybe next time they won't rush a release so much
Or be like Yonny
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In reply to Post #533
Didn't say I skipped the chapter to not read said i will go back to it just don't feel like reading it currently because Thames is the least appealing to me... is that better 😂
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In reply to Post #533
Like being a Liverpool fan
Skipping chapters is just plain ridiculous, there’s far more detail in those chapters than the YouTube vids!
I really enjoyed the Ellis chapter, what a bit of angling that was.
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And these guys that skipped chapters because they'd seen the ESP vids. That's like being a liverpool fan, reading Stevie Gs autobiography, and skipping the champions league chapter because you watched them win it.
It's all about the story. If you just want facts you might as well read an encyclopedia.
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In reply to Post #531
Quite. Mine has 3 cigarette type burn holes in it. Couldn't give a monkeys. Still an enjoyable read from someone who shares my take on the sport.
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In reply to Post #530
Totally agree Yonny, some of my favourite books were bought from the charity shop and have other peoples tea/baked bean/god knows splashed on them. Makes no difference whatsoever to the story within.
Each to their own, some people put astroturf under their reels so they don’t get dirty!
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In reply to Post #524
We're not talking about a photocopy though are we. We're talking about 3 faded words from nearly 500 pages.
His first book was miles worse and its generally considered one of the best carp books ever written. My point is it doesn't spoil the read itself.
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In reply to Post #528
Exactly
No printing, pain in the chuff distribution, no running out of stock.
He would make a quid or 2 as well as he'd sell the same storys twice, certainly to me anyway  &
If somebody knows him give him a nudge, lockdown project  *
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In reply to Post #527
Him reading his books on audio would be amazing. He’s such a strong story teller and carp anglers have all got time on our hands to listen whilst fishing.
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In reply to Post #526
Terry Hearn on audible would be a flyer I'm sure.
Although I've got quite a carp book library I for one prefer to listen to the spoken word these days.
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The quality of mine isn't the best however I take my books fishing with me so they will get battered anyway, think Terry should get some audio books 👍
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In reply to Post #524
Well said...
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In reply to Post #513
Of course the quality of the book matters. Would you pay £40 for a photocopied version with scanned photos. Jeez get a grip!!!
It's a very good book. Totally understand people's comments, but it's better than most books since Still Searching 🤣🤣🤣
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In reply to Post #521
enjoying the book, taking my time to digest each chapter tbh, as though its a treat to find 30 mins of quiet to read and enjoy. My slight gripe is the print quality and possibly the quality of paper as some pages have a slight 'rough' feel to them?
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In reply to Post #521
Got mine. Loved the first two, it’s just a book , enjoy it for what it is . Just got to get mine now sent to bloody slovakia
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In reply to Post #520
Agree, Terry should stop those books being sent out if he had any power to do so as company obviously doesnt care about their customers at all. Their care for customer in non existent.
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In reply to Post #519
As far as bad printing is concerned I really couldn't care less though
If I was the author, and a potential customer, the new book after 13 years in the making, and 2 previous books being laid out and printed correctly, I would be well p*ssed off.
Schoolboy printing errors 
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In reply to Post #511
'he doesn't big himself up at all, just tells the story as he remembers it' - I think that memory is what left him a little bit while writing his third book. It just has that 'collected feel' to it in some chapters, much more than his first two books. Its like he was writing it while scanning through his old notes and slides (which he admits to do in the foreword btw). His first two books were much more lively and compelling imo. As far as bad printing is concerned I really couldn't care less though
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In reply to Post #516
I'll most definatley go back to that chapter at some point I'm sure
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In reply to Post #513
I agree that the print doesn't impact the read in terms of content, it just continues to irk me as it shouldn't have happened. I don't think the vids spoil the read as such as I agree that I have read many a book that is made into a film/TV show and the book is far superior as much gets missed on video
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In reply to Post #515
you might be suprised,how many times do people say that a book is so much better than a film or a film didnt do the book justice.
I think the written word on emotions, feelings,disappointment, sadness and excitement can be captured so much better when a writer is writing and re living the moment in their head as it all comes back to them.
I agree that what esp put out was good,but its defintely wort reading about too...just incase
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I'm halfway through after finally getting mine delivered after Xmas. I'm really liking it, have skipped the Thames chapter though as there were obviously two videos about that and didn't think much more could be said about it
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In reply to Post #513
Haven’t seen this book yet but plenty of Still Searching had been covered in the angling press prior to it’s release, times have moved on with internet content and videos, and also with people’s memories.
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In reply to Post #512
I keep seeing comments about the vids. That is a perception thing. The book should be taken at face value. I agree that having seen the films the read is less exciting, but the book is no less brilliant for it imo.
Green gate is a great, great read but not as good as through the mist imo.
Edit: as for the print quality, that has no relevance to the read itself. If that ruins it for you, you're not reading it properly imo. It's the story itself that should be rated.
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In reply to Post #508
Through the Green Gate - Now that is a superb book
As for the new Hearn book, it is a good read (which is the main thing) but I agree with the comments regarding seeing the ESP videos. Not sure there is a way around that though as he has to keep his sponsers happy inbetween books
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In reply to Post #508
It's not bad, just not great. The biggest issue is the print quality, most pages have words missing or faded, which is an issue with the publisher not the author. One of the things I do like about the book is that Terry continues to tell it how it is, he doesn't big himself up at all, just tells the story as he remembers it
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In reply to Post #509
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In reply to Post #508
As long as you haven’t seen the vids or read about the captures in magazine articles it is well worth getting.
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In reply to Post #507
I have to say that after reading the reviews i'm not that fussed with this one, thought the other 2 were excellent, currently looking for a copy of through the green gates as that looks like one hell of a read.
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In reply to Post #506
I hear 1000 copies are being signed this time too 
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I see the shambles that are Calm Productions are releasing a second run of “Through the Mist” later this month.
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Having just finished it I must say I thoroughly enjoyed it, especially the earlier chapters on the Big S. Only thing I would say is if you have seen the YouTube clips then the last two chapters are an anticlimax. Only thing that spoilt it really.
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In reply to Post #500
Whoops 🤣
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In reply to Post #499
Mine too tim...really good chapter.
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In reply to Post #501
Terry penning
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In reply to Post #500
Adam Hearn wasnt it?
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In reply to Post #497
Who wrote rolling in the mist?
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In reply to Post #484
Haven’t read Pennings book yet, but just finished Terry’s latest. I decided to read it a chapter at a time, to allow each water to seep in, as it were.
I really liked it, particularly the way he described his approach to each challenge. Always a sucker for a good story on waters that have not been done to death in other writings, and found the chapters that he had already done for ESP gave something extra.
Slippery Seal was my personal favorite, lovely cunning old fish!
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In reply to Post #497
Have to say , glad I got it , reading it in stages not in order . The esp videos have eaten into the desire to read some chapters , not because I know the story rather that Tel telling it makes it better .
I skipped strait to big S , somewhere I should have fished , but smoking mirrors about who was a bailiff etc see me chucked off . The main reason I was looking at it was that I stocked a few really nice looking fish into it many years before Tel fished it .
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In reply to Post #493
I finished 'through the mist' last night,
my wife who stayed up until 03.30 on the launch night to get it for me asked "well was it worth all the hype and effort ?"
I of course replied " yeh great" ,
not really though, found it fairly hard going, and unlike his first two easy to put down. As others have said, his videos which I love, meant I knew most of the stories already.
However just started Adam Pennings book and that seems very good so far 👌
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In reply to Post #495
Fair point, I’ve avoided them ever since they sacked Eamonn Holmes.
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In reply to Post #494
I've heard good things about Oz's book, from experience if he writes a second dont bother buying itv😂😂
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In reply to Post #492
I finally got around to reading a copy, thanks to a mate
My thoughts are that if I had not seen the videos and read the articles then this would be up there with his other two. Unfortunately I already knew the stories, or at least most of them.
Good point earlier about this and Dave Lane’s last book. I never even finished Dave’s last book, found it incredibly dull. I think the grit and subsidence of their earlier books and lifestyles made for more interesting reading.
Maybe it’s me but I haven’t really enjoyed a carp book for ten years or so.
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In reply to Post #490
Got to agree with you on the pictures being dark but my copy hasnt got the print problems , it has got smudges of blue ink on some of the pages though. Its well written ( unlike my posts 😂😂  but i think the markets been flooded with these type of books now and they're all pretty much the same. Getting a bit boring, i got to the burghfield chapter and couldnt be bothered to read it so stuck it back on the book shelf with the other 40 or so books...
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In reply to Post #490
I must be lucky. My copy only has very very minor print issues. A bit of faded text twice in the whole book.
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made my eyes bleed trying to read it, not sure if anyone else has the same, wording on all left hand pages to far over towards the spine meaning I virtually have to snap the book in half to read it. gave up looking at the photos aswell,all to dark.
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In reply to Post #488
They also both fish for a living now, whereas the early books were about the pleasure and scraping by in the process. It’s bound to have an effect on the stories.
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In reply to Post #476
Daves last book is quite abit off his last two aswell, not just Terry's,
I think they probaly forgotten what they went on in the captures because so many yrs has past since their last book.
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In reply to Post #486
Great book shame no mention of pingewood, didn't manage to see the angling times when he was writing in there about his time on pingewood.
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In reply to Post #482
I messaged them through email and all I got was you have been sent a full refund, no explanation nothing
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In reply to Post #484
It is warm/cold for me as well but as others said knowing about captures before hand seeing them on web, his Christmas videos etc does spoil a lot but I guess that is the nature of the beast now days. It has been to long since his last book and it seams everything was crammed in to much... It looks like he is rushing and jumping to much here and there...
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In reply to Post #481
Finally got mine on New Years Eve, but then I do live a bit further away than most.
I ordered 3 books - 2 from Calm Productions; Through the Mist & Rolling in the Deep - and also Subsurface IV
The postage to Australia for the 2 from Calm doubled the cost of each book (36 quid each!!!), whereas the Subsurface postage was slightly cheaper at 20 quid.
As has been mentioned many times already, the 2 books from Calm each came in a jiffy bag and arrived damaged, whereas the Subsurface book was well packed in cardboard and arrived completely in tact.
Content-wise, I'm more impressed with Adam Penning's book than Terry's. I think its because the videos have already spoilt a number of the stories so there is no mystery in them. although there are a few interesting bits. Adams is much more of a life story and that appeals more.
Subsurface IV is a different beast altogether, and I'm well impressed, despite what others have said about the lack of words. A quick flick through the pages makes me want to get back out on the bank of my syndicate, but I fear that is more than a year off now. Think I'll be getting a few more books before wetting a line ...
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In reply to Post #481
Are people still waiting for copies?
Got a fiver in my Xmas Lucky Dip, so wouldn´t mind a copy
 
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In reply to Post #481
I waited until Xmas Eve and them got my money back, sent them six or seven emails/messages and not one response.
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In reply to Post #480
Are people still waiting for copies?
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In reply to Post #479
It felt rushed, that’s my only comment. Loved the book
But chapters felt condensed and rushed and didn’t explore the full depth of his time spent in the bank.
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In reply to Post #477
Ditto. A few chapters in and thought I would find putting it down at night hard based on some comments but so far not found anything overly inspiring. Not bad, but equally nothing special, so far. Kind of looking forward to finishing this and starting Oz's book which I got for Xmas. Also really want to get Micky Grays books as they sound great, with Micky being named dropped quite a lot by Tel in this book
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In reply to Post #476
Agree, not a patch on his first or second, for me though both his and micky's first are two of the best I've read.
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In reply to Post #476
I must admit, I'm a couple of chapters in and so far it's all very samey. I'm not feeling it yet however I'm sure I will soon, might give it another whirl after a break..... or we get locked down properly again and books become my only escape!
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In reply to Post #474
Thats what they reckon which is why they wont restock
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In reply to Post #473
What was the cause of the deaths, heard it may have been down to the refuse tip near bye ?
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In reply to Post #472
They all died, 16 or so big carp a few smaller ones, big perch like 5lb plus, big pike and lots of jacks. The suprising thing were the amount of big eels in there but we think a lot of these survived. Dont think they are going to restock.
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In reply to Post #471
Did they all die, or are they restocking ?
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In reply to Post #470
Linear, got offered a ticket this year
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In reply to Post #457
Who was running big S before the fish died ?
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In reply to Post #468
I read it chapter a day to make it last a little longer (pathetic as hell I know) but one thing is clear boy do you guys have some nice waters or is terry just a master of finding them (quiet, not a lot of anglers around etc)...
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In reply to Post #446
Mine arrived today, North Carolina. No damage, signed, ordered on 2 Dec. Thought it had got lost, but now. Looking forward to reading it in our cold spell here
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In reply to Post #466
Yes Ivy (L) and Ellis I found the best bits, though I'd have much rather preferred Pinge than the Northwyke chapter which was a bit pointless. Excellent book though.
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In reply to Post #465
Agree, defo my fave chapter 👍
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In reply to Post #464
Pingewood was covered quite comprehensively in his diary piece in angling times at the time tbf, still would of been nice to read it again though.....i forgive him the ivy pool chapter makes up for it 
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In reply to Post #463
He has missed quite a chunk of his angling I've seen from the book.
Pingewood where the brute and Jockey lived and dintons where swan.
Thought they would of been in there tbh
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Maybe something to do with half the country being in lock down lol
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In reply to Post #461
"No Christmas eve vid this year from Tell ?" - perhaps Calm Productions were in charge of its release as well !
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No Christmas eve vid this year from Tell ?
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In reply to Post #451
Mine arrived via my secret santa who blew the budget to get it for me... no doubt a favour will be asked for in return!
I think it's brilliant - so well written. Some of the stories are familiar from his ESP videos and other things but am thoroughly enjoying it.
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In reply to Post #458
Make the lost of them while they are there.
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In reply to Post #457
Wow.
Another strange twist of fate, and nature, big volume of water. More special carp gone.
Big S now assigned to the written archives of history.
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In reply to Post #456
Oxygen crash in the summer, total wipeout unfortunately.
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In reply to Post #454
Let me guess, ottered ?
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Figure this out mine stil hasn’t arrived but luckily my mrs who didn’t no I ordered one, ordered one for me for Xmas so I’ve got one now just not the one I ordered lol
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In reply to Post #453
All gone now unfortunately 😕
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In reply to Post #452
I did find it highly unusual that every fish I’ve ever seen out of the big S was a stunner, almost hand selected.
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In reply to Post #451
Went strait to the bid S chapter , somewhere I got chucked off once , but had I known the score would have chanced my arm again . The reason ? , because I put some fish in there , scaley lovely young fish from the lake at the back. It was due to be filled in , and I had permission to fish it , I caught half a dozen fish and it seemed silly to put them back , so in the big S they went . A non starter these days , but over 30 years ago things were slightly different
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In reply to Post #448
I’m now 150 pages in, it’s up there with his other two IMO.
Well worth the wait
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In reply to Post #449
Publishers are a law unto themselves.
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In reply to Post #448
Yes. Read first chapter last night. Usual high quality. Enjoyed his first two and enjoying this so far. Had a flick through rest of book and will be reading over next few days. Shame release and sales of book had negative experiences for some people. Know a couple of lads who tried to order when website crashed then missed out because Calm Productions had re-opened website without announcing it like they said they would. Hopefully they will get one in the re-print in January.
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In reply to Post #447
Well? Is it any good?
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Ordered 8th December (when website was meant to be down- just happened to check). Shipped on 12th. Just arrived today. Thankfully in perfect condition as have seen a few on Facebook damaged. Not surprising given it was just packed in a bit of bubble wrap and a jiffy bag.
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In reply to Post #439
Ordered on the 2nd dec, but still not received mine yet. I'm overseas though, so might be held up in transit or whatever somewhere.
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In reply to Post #444
I believe a second print is planned for January 2021 but with covid who knows if this will be possible.
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Does anyone know if there is a second print run planned?
I kept checking the website but missed out
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In reply to Post #442
Good for you 🙄
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Got mine on the 17th. Signed
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In reply to Post #439
I never got mine I emailed calm last week and without a reply I got a full refund this morning for it without a answer, complete joke this is. At least I got my money back but ridiculous that you don’t even get W answer or explanation
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In reply to Post #439
I've still not got mine
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Anybody else still not got theirs? I've cancelled it with the bank now an absolute joke
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It seems I’ve been lucky, ordered on the 7th and came Friday. Mint. Haven’t noticed poor print quality on a quick flick through either.
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In reply to Post #436
Mine arrived today . Having read all the horror stories about damage I set up a ‘soft landing’ for it 🤣 don’t know whether it worked or I was just lucky as only had one minor knock on the spine . Roll on Christmas Day 👍
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In reply to Post #435
My copy arrived today, ordered on 2nd December. No damage so that’s another bonus. I actually emailed them yesterday to say that it hadn’t arrived & they replied within the hour. They must have held copies back as they told me that if it hadn’t arrived by the weekend to let them know & they would drop a copy off to me as they lived in the same area.
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In reply to Post #434
A Fool and His Eel is another work of art mate.
You'll love Oz's book. One of those that makes you want to drop everything and go fishing.
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In reply to Post #430
Flick of the Tale is great. Got Ozs book for Christmas so looking forward to reading that. I really enjoyed a Fool and His Eel as was about more than just carp fishing
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In reply to Post #423
Disappointed to receive my book damaged with the hardcase outer corner bent over. Sadly it seems I’m not the only one.
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In reply to Post #430
Got to agree with laneys 2nd 👍superb read, id have to have casting at the sun up there as well.
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In reply to Post #429
Oz Holness and probably Laneys 2nd
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In reply to Post #426
Which other 2 books would make your top 5 yonny?
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In reply to Post #426
14 years have passed but they’ve kept the same style for this book. At least that’s consistent. Hence why it seems outdated, it’s because it is I guess.
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In reply to Post #418
Theres one on coch-Y-bonddu books for £100👍 put angle books in google search and it will take you to the fishing section. Its a good site to value of your books.
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In reply to Post #424
My subsurface 4 showed up same day too. Work of art. But Terry's books have never been about that (for me anyway). The printing in his first book was shocking and some of the photo reproductions in the second leave a lot to be desired. In fact I chuckled at the print in this new one as it took me back to the first. It doesnt matter. It's all about the read, and all three of Terry's are in my top 5 I reckon.
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In reply to Post #424
Received two one signed and one not (not to resell btw). The signed one came a few days late by Royal Mail and the non-signed one came via APC. Both of them where put through the letterbox which is not ideal as its a large drop, but luckily the both books are still mint.
The whole experience was shocking. I know people who have received two signed books when ordered them together, people who ordered them before people who received signed copies yet there's weren't. Deffo a company to avoid
Also forgot to the mention the none signed ones also have a lot of faded words on the ink. Seems their quality control is bad
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I have a friend who is a carp book collector. I was working in his house this weekend when he happened to have just received Terry’s book and Subsurface 4. I have to say from a purely design and feel point of view, Terry’s was very underwhelming. I don’t think Calm Productions have really done him justice at all. It’s got a cramped feel to it, the whole thing looks shoe horned in. The layout is far too boxy. Simple half page photo, top or bottom of the page with text crammed in above/ underneath. Very disappointing. Doesn’t have a feel of a designed book, more an exercise of just fitting it all in. If it had the layout and feel of the latest subsurface or the bcsg books it would be amazing. As it is, although I’m sure it’s a brilliant read, it looks and feels like just another carp book. Shame as it could have been spectacular. A missed opportunity to do something very special.
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In reply to Post #410
mine has some damage to the spine on the top
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In reply to Post #419
Thanks Yonny. I can tell that you know your stuff so your recommendation is of value
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In reply to Post #419
Mine turned up after only a week or so and in mint condition which seems like a rarity having flicked through here. Have also noticed the dodgy print on the left hand page. Nothing that I’m worried about, but I’d be a bit pissed if I was Terry.
Content so far has been great, strong first chapters. Got to agree with what someone else said that I’m not overly excited to read a lot of the chapters as they’ve been largely covered on some form of media before. Wasing, Burghfield, Tunnels & Little Grey for example.
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Missed out on a first edition due to moving house & no reliable internet connection, but looks like I didn't miss out on the "good experience" from the Calm website! Will have to hope I can get one of the second edition prints in the New Year as not going to be paying inflated prices.
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In reply to Post #417
@midlandman. You'll love it mate. I'm a bit of a collector of carp books, I have a bookcase full, but there are only a small handful I go back to read again. This is one of them, 100%.
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In reply to Post #417
Received Terrys book today in Belgium, damaged as well, not to bad but enough to make my angry a little bit. Ordered some kids book few days a go and it came properly packed and corners protected. p.s Did anyone maybe see Mike Willmotts Carp life (first one) for sale somewhere? how much do they go for if anyone knows?
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In reply to Post #415
That’s great to hear.
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In reply to Post #412
Weird isn't it - the pics are fine, it's only the words that are odd.
The content though is up there (if not better) than his first two
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In reply to Post #414
It's brilliant mate. I'm only half way through and it's right up there with his first 2 imo.
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In reply to Post #413
Anyone have any more reviews on the content? I know it’s not long been out, just considering whether it’s worth the hassle of trying to order one.
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I would send the book back if damaged in any way , and ask for a refund.
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In reply to Post #411
Yes mine has that
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Anyone else noticed the same character/word 3/4 down on the left hand page is poorly printed throughout?
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In reply to Post #408
Postie gave mine to the neighbours as it wouldn’t go through our letterbox
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In reply to Post #392
If you just want to read it its on kindle 👍(Dave lanes book not Terry Hearns)
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In reply to Post #407
Mine arrived today
Perfect condition
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In reply to Post #406
I must have been lucky mine turned up mint, all these damaged ones aint good though. 👎
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In reply to Post #405
Mine has been delivered today ,corners and spine damaged . I buy books to read and collect , I knew this would not be a collectors item because it would have a large print , but even so it should arrive in undamaged condition .
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In reply to Post #404
mine turned up yesterday..... took a week and a day.... I can live with that.
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In reply to Post #394
ta - think id rather have a copy of that than tel's new book to be honest - prefer the older ones, just a bit more interesting
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In reply to Post #402
They probably are, just the wrong or insufficient materials lol.
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In reply to Post #400
The website also says books will be carefully packaged 😂😂🤷🏻♂️
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In reply to Post #400
The irony that all you had to do is read
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In reply to Post #399
I appreciate there is a bit of anger here but I think I'm right in saying they posted the books early last week and the website states 14 day delivery so , to date nobody is outside that commitment.
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I got my other copy yesterday. Basically a week after I ordered the other copy but this copy was ordered first?
The way this whole thing has been handled from the start I honestly believe Calm Productions are just winging it and sending orders out in no particular order
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In reply to Post #397
I feel like the ones that haven't got the book by now aren't getting it surely
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Ordered on the 2nd still nothing for me either it’s ridiculous now, I’m like the rest if it’s not here by Friday I’m calling the bank
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In reply to Post #395
I ordered a book from calm a few years ago in nov it arrived in jan . It was supposed to arrived in early December as it was a xmass present. They where poor ( undersatetment ) to deal with then and sounds like they still are.
I never ordered from them again or ever will.
Total disregard for their customers.
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In reply to Post #390
Same, I am giving it until Friday then calling the bank
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In reply to Post #392
“The book will cost £30 plus £5 P&P (Royal mail are due to increase their fees once again in January and the price of the boxes has gone through the roof, apparently there is now a carboard shortage as well)
All copies will be signed but I cannot personalize them I'm afraid...”
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In reply to Post #385
No, the words in Dave's book are the same, but the pictures and format are different. Can't see the point of buying it if you have the original.
£30 plus postage I recall.
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In reply to Post #388
any idea how much he's knocking them out for? always fancied reading that one but not for stupid money
cheers, merv
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In reply to Post #390
Your get nicked for harassment
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In reply to Post #389
I ordered mine on 2-12-20 as well .Money taken loads of conformation e-mails . I msg or e-mail them at least twice a day .
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In reply to Post #388
I’ve just emailed them. Still no sign of my copy, ordered on the 2nd & order confirmation received but no sign of the book. I’m not expecting a response from them
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In reply to Post #385
Obsession with Carp remastered is his "new" one. His Patreon subscribers can pre order now, then it goes on general presale from 28th December as I understand it.
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In reply to Post #386
Nope,.... Nada.
Print 50k books and avoid this circus.
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In reply to Post #385
Has anyone had a reply to e-mails ,phone calls or messenger from Calm ,because they are not replying too me .
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In reply to Post #372
Is the Dave Lane book really new? I can only find a "Remastered" version of "Obsession With Carp" with a pre order from Dec 28th.
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In reply to Post #379
and will pay OTT for the privilege
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It was £410 but now it's back down to £82. There is one on for £360. Mental!
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In reply to Post #381
Jeez that looks battered! I’ve got 30 yr old books in better Nick than that.
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In reply to Post #377
Looks a few years old with the battered corners 😳
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In reply to Post #375
If you buy directly from Dave it will probably be signed and posted in a box.
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In reply to Post #378
Actually I have already answered my question...it appears that a LOT of people want to read about those lakes!
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In reply to Post #365
I get that, and assumed the same. I even agree entirely with that principle, but I am disappointed nonetheless.....who really wants to read any more about Wasing, Spitfire or that James’ fish.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264972017118
WTF?
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In reply to Post #375
He definitely signed his copies of Fine Lines if you got them from him direct
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In reply to Post #374
I think he is
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In reply to Post #373
If he's posting them himself he might as well sign them at the same time.
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In reply to Post #372
Dave probably saw the release & postage disaster from Calm and thought, I'll do it myself
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In reply to Post #361
Dave lanes taking orders for his book as from today, doing all the packaging and posting himself. 👍
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In reply to Post #370
Unsigned copy went for £254 if the buyer pays.
7 times over RRP  WOW
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In reply to Post #366
Unsigned copy went for £254 if the buyer pays.
Over 30 books sold so far most unsigned for around the 100 mark
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In reply to Post #367
I’m hoping mine will turn up soon then, I ordered on the 2nd mine still isn’t here. I’ve tried calling calm productions but not answer all the time
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In reply to Post #367
Ordered mine on the 1st, not signed even though some who ordered on the 2nd have got signed copies. Corners damaged but I want it to read otherwise I would have been extremely disappointed with how it’s turned up.
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In reply to Post #366
My book arrived thos morning, slightly bashed corners, but bought as a reading book, not to sell, so not particularly fussed, but poor all the same.
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signed copy just gone for 215 on ebay
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In reply to Post #316
I know there’s a few Tel enthusiasts that like to try and follow the same path of lakes and fish - they might struggle emulating the majority of these now
From a writers perspective, waiting a decade or more, before you publish your long awaited book, would stop the sheep following in his footsteps as all those known big target fish are dead, so no point clogging up those potential waters, club tickets.
Keeping sponsors happy and previous water members as well.
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In reply to Post #362
Thanks mate.
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In reply to Post #362
£144 for a signed copy now  on Ebay with 37bids
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In reply to Post #360
Received mine a few days ago and I went straight to the ‘Tunnels’ chapter as it’s a lake I fished and loved. I wondered if there would be anything we didn’t see in the film, but aside from the odd tale regarding the horses (which I experienced myself so it wasn’t totally out the blue!) it was basically the film in text. Literally word for word in some of it.
Typical Tel tale but it did feel a bit rushed, but maybe that’s because he was writing about something people had already watched.
Other than that all I’ve read is the intro, which was nicely written.
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Ordered on the 2nd, it turned up yesterday... usual story no tracking info, a dozen confirmation emails, no reply to messages or emails, no answering the phone but it did at least arrive. Very very minor damage to one corner but at least I can read it.
Mr Lane has gone quiet about the release of his book over the last couple of weeks, I hope we don't have a repeat performance!
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In reply to Post #359
I still haven’t heard if the book is any good or not
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In reply to Post #339
there are loads on ebay, even an un-signed one with a starting bid of 230quid  shocking
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In reply to Post #357
Will people go to the time, trouble, and cost to return a minor damaged 1st edition for a second print edition. The latter may also turn up with similar issues.
Distance selling regulations exist but I bet millions of items at comparatively small cost are simply kept by unsatisfied customers. Sad but true, and I bet most of us have been guilty of it.
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In reply to Post #356
They have said a re print will be done at the end of Jan. loads of people moaning about books arriving damaged. When they finally get their heads out of the sand and start answering people’s calls, emails, messages and posts I can see them having to refund a lot of people for missing books and damaged books that can’t be replaced as there are no more books left
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Don't know the time scale for reprinting, the Web site has said sold out for a couple of days.
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In reply to Post #354
My conspiracy theory is the books were never tracked so many of the signed one could go missing.
If you've not received your book it's because it was a signed one. In a couple of weeks time you'll get an apology an unsigned one will be delivered promptly.
Only kidding I hope you all get them soon
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This hasn’t got anything to do with Royal Mail delays. I’m 99% sure it’s down to Calm messing it all up which they have done from the very beginning
The 2 copies I ordered went to 2 different addresses with near identical post codes one ending DQ the other UQ and the houses are not that far apart. The book I ordered first I’m still waiting for and the book I ordered second was delivered on Wednesday morning after being posted on the Monday
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In reply to Post #352
Fair enough mate just wondered why everyone else is getting them but a few others haven’t had there’s, I’ll wait a bit longer then thank you bud
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In reply to Post #351
These are 2nd class, potentially a whole different ball game.
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In reply to Post #350
I agree I’ve ordered a lot of parcels since this and they have been delivered by Royal Mail since, in fact I ordered 3 parcels last Monday was delivered 1st class Royal Mail on Wednesday
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In reply to Post #349
I’ve ordered things after the 2nd that have been delivered by Royal Mail. I’ve no idea if it’s even been dispatched
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In reply to Post #347
It comes by Royal mail and they have a back log
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In reply to Post #347
Snap, no email saying dispatched or anything.
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In reply to Post #346
Ordered mine on the 2nd, confirmation email received but no sign of the book
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In reply to Post #345
Mine too, very well packaged. No issues.
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Mine arrived yesterday so hang on everyone!!
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In reply to Post #335
I left the UK in1996, when there was still a level of mystery. Having moved here (North Carolina), I remain almost overwhelmed about the level of unknown potential, mystery, in the (big) waters I have shortlisted for serious attention here. Realistic targets in this state are Mid Thirties, the holy grail is a 40.
I will love reading what Terry has been up to when the book arrives.......
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In reply to Post #342
Exactly the same mate no tracking number no nothing, I had a email on the 3rd saying it was shipped but no information other than that
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In reply to Post #341
Yeah will probably do the same. Could of got lost in lost, no way of knowing without any feckin tracking is there.
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In reply to Post #338
Exactly the same as me even the same day bud, I’ve tried to contact calm productions but no answer so I’ll give it to Monday/ Tuesday and I’ll get hold of the bank for the money back
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In reply to Post #338
Ordered mine on 1st and still nothing 
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ones sold for 254 one ebay tonight...not sure if that's a genuine price or all the haters have inflated it lol
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Anyone still not got theirs? Ordered on 2nd and money taken but still not here?
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In reply to Post #336
**** me this is difficult, that's exactly what I'm saying  
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In reply to Post #335
I think the fact you think that all of that is true proves my point. There is a whole world of angling outside the internet, social media and print.
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In reply to Post #326
I'd say the reverse and you're out of touch or missing the point.
The new fish? Yep there are plenty around and doing big weights they come with all their stocking details and the pictures of both sides with dates, no mystery, nothing unknown. Totally manufactured and very plastic in my view compared to the past.
There aren't even any unknown waters anymore with the advent of Google Earth etc. I'm sure there are a few whoppers out there in some of the big reservoirs and I bet there are a few trying for them, that's exciting.
Stuff like the Burghfield Common is boring, in some respects the stuff that Lane and Hearn write about is boring, known waters and known fish, the thing that would really spike peoples interest is that unknown uncaught whopper from some windswept inland sea, the type of catch that's lost on todays pop up angler because if it aint on Faceache it doesn't exist.
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In reply to Post #333
Nope even came with a little Insert page
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In reply to Post #332
Read it when your sober, it may not be the pages that were messed u.
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In reply to Post #321
I have Nashy book the demon eye that I think had all the page numbers all messed up.
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In reply to Post #330
Also bear in mind that Terry tends to target known fish. He's not really one to go chasing myths, ghosts or fish that don't get caught (Mere excepted to an extent).
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In reply to Post #324
What interesting stuff has he left out then?
There won't be stacks of unknown fish / venues because 1. They don't really exist anymore or not to the extent of filling a book about them and 2. he has sponsers to keep happy so most of his captures are published by ESP one way or another
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In reply to Post #328
All the fish in Kent and Essex are wronguns 😂
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In reply to Post #327
New is a relative point with age. The fish that were ‘new’ when Bazil was ‘old’ twenty years ago are the same age now. Many are just off the circuit of YouTube and book whoring.
And Two Tone was a wrongun
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In reply to Post #326
That’s the point - it used to be about the “mystery” of either relatively unknown “history” fish and/or hard venues, whereas now most of the fish are younger known fish, albeit from a decent looking fast growing strain.
Just think how old Bazil, Mary, Heather, the Park Lake fish, two tone, etc were compared to some of the newer fish
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In reply to Post #325
If you think it’s still the same big fish in the same ponds you’re out of touch. Most of said bigguns are goners now but there are plenty of new good strain fish out there.
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In reply to Post #324
That's because the whole game is stale, nothing ground breaking for a while now, not even sure if there's anything left to break new ground, just the same fish but bigger in the same old ponds.
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In reply to Post #311
I’m disappointed with what I have gathered so far as Terry seems to have played it very safe with the waters covered, indeed he has already covered most of these captures in some form elsewhere. From what I gather he has left the interesting stuff out.
Yes, I will buy it though, cos it’s Terry.
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In reply to Post #313
Mine only arrived yesterday
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In reply to Post #316
Im not from the area and never going to fish there as struggle to find the time to fish just down the road from me with family and work commitments, i just like to know where rather than them be unnamed
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In reply to Post #320
A 1st edition with a unique flaw that would make it worth even more
Next time you touch it better use gloves
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In reply to Post #319
I must have thumbed past it twice then!!
Either that or they forgot to put one in my copy, which lets be honest doesn’t seem beyond the realms of possibility
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In reply to Post #318
There is a chapter list
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In reply to Post #317
Not that I saw. My copy arrived earlier and I had a quick thumb through.
No contents page which is a bit weird
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In reply to Post #316
Is pingewood in there??
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Didn’t think it was a secret that it was the Ellis. Tels referred to it by name in videos before and I thought it was fairly common knowledge if you’re from vaguely round the area.
Both the big mirrors gone now, as is the ‘Ivy Pool’ mirror, lost that in the summer. And the Tunnels fish all died as well.
I know there’s a few Tel enthusiasts that like to try and follow the same path of lakes and fish - they might struggle emulating the majority of these now 😂
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In reply to Post #314
Ellis
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is anyone allowed to know which water is next to sheepcoat? This big pit as it was refered to in mickey greys book
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In reply to Post #312
Ordered mine on 2nd. Confirmation email received, money taken but still no book
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In reply to Post #311
I agree that print quality is not the best, which is a bit of a surprise given that hey knew how popular it would be.
In terms of content not read it yet, but covers Burghfield, Northwycke, Spitfire Pool, Ashmead, Wasing, the Thames plus a few others so a good variety of venues. I don't doubt for a second that it will be a good read
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I thought the reproduction quality of the new book was pretty poor in places, some of the pictures are printed so dark and text is blurred on a few pages.
Having only read the Ivy pool chapter thus far, which was a good tale to be fair. Although, much of the book has been spoken about to a lesser extent in the past, more or less.
I'm putting mine on ebay tonight he he.
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In reply to Post #309
Is the book any good? What waters are covered?
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In reply to Post #308
Not important to me but fair enough
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In reply to Post #305
Because I am a fan of print and i like to keep the books i read..
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In reply to Post #306
Yes does sound like it was Royal Mail that caused the delay
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In reply to Post #300
It was the round inked one over the top of the postage label, always assumed that this was when it went through the sorting office
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In reply to Post #304
What's wrong with a photocopy can't you get someone to do that for you?
I used to get books from the library and take them into work to photocopy.
Not been to a library for a while do they no longer keep fishing books?, they used to be able to transfer them from branch to branch.
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Last few copies of Darrell's book to sell on ebay went for;
£169.99 (or best offer)
£128.00
£125.00
£44.00
£50.00
£86.00
£97.00
£102.00
Subsurface 1 recently sold for £88.00 & £56.00
Darrell's is one I really want to read but I can't bring myself to pay stupid money for it.... ....hopefully there will be another re-print at some point
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In reply to Post #302
Be quick, it's in reprint I believe.
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In reply to Post #295
Bloody hell. I’ve got the first Subsurface somewhere. I think it’s stored under my ottoman bed 😂 I’m never going to read it so if anyone’s reading this and wants it, I’ll take £60 before it goes on e bay 😂
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Phoned calm at 9.30am today and answer phone still says the site is down.
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In reply to Post #298
Was that an inked postmark that Royal Mail do when they receive the item or a Business postmark that the company prints from their own machine? Maybe Calm prepared the item ready for postage on the 7th but did not hand it to Royal Mail for a day or two?
Glad I can't be bothered to read fishing books anymore seems such a kerfuffle.
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In reply to Post #297
I'd pay triple that and have in the past for a leather bound copy but not heard of leather copies of these being available.
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Mine arrived yesterday, without any damage thankfully. The postage mark on it was from the 7th but didnt arrive till the 10th so its not all Calms fault as it was royal mail 1st class so guess its also the postal delays
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In reply to Post #295
Anyone who willing to pay that price for a fishing book wants there head examined.
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Ordered mine Monday when the site re-opened. Had a confirmation email but no shipping email and no book as yet. Fingers crossed.
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In reply to Post #294
It is very much believable... The first Sub-Surface book and Darrel Pecks one regularly go for £75 plus...
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Do you guys genuinely know anyone that would be willing to pay over £100 for the book on eBay? Seems crazy to me and I do wonder whether a lot of the bidding is fake on there which then encourages people to pay over the odds.
I haven’t used eBay for ages but seem to remember you can cancel the sale completely after the auction ends and just give an excuse of ‘item being damaged’ - I’m thinking if they get a mate to bid initially and they don’t get get any genuine bids after that point.
It just seems unbelievable to me...
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Misses got nothing when she ordered mine at 5.30am on the 2nd of December she tried the first night but it crashed on her, when she did manage to place the order online she had no confirmation email no shipping message nothing, it turned up yesterday.
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In reply to Post #290
There is no tracking on the book. It’s just chucked in a Jiffy bag and sent in the post with Royal Mail. Seen loads of people complaining about bashed up books. I’m waiting for another copy to be delivered that was ordered before the one I received 🤷🏻♂️. Ordered one for me first and one for someone else (delivered to their address) they got their copy but I’ve not got mine yet, but they were nice enough to let me have their copy just incase the other one doesn’t make an appearance
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In reply to Post #290
Same as me mate mine was paid for and taken out the account, got a confirmation email and even a shipped email but still haven’t received anything I’m starting to doubt it but if that’s the case I want my money back
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In reply to Post #289
I got a shipping confirmation and order completed e mail 5 days before they even shipped, I’ve got no tracking information and would have thought I’d have seen my copy by now considering they started shipping at the start of the week.
Completely in the dark. I don’t crave signed books or collectors items, I just want the thing I’ve paid for 😂
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In reply to Post #288
I haven’t got a clue if I am actually getting a copy or not
Looks like my order is still processing since the 7th
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In reply to Post #283
Nah, I was joking mate, hence the wink! I have got 2 copies but neither are signed.
And to other comments the second copy is for my mate who doesn't do 'tinternet.
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In reply to Post #286
Way of the world these days I’m afraid. You snooze you lose and people will always be there to make money.
Look at most things new out like kids toys (LOL Dolls etc) new games consoles, books etc there is never enough to cover demand and companies probably manufacture on the cautious side so not to be left with stock which in turn cause a bit of a frenzy and people see an opportunity to grab as much as they can knowing they can make a few quid. Then once the initial frenzy dies down and stocks are replenished everyone can get what they want (unless it’s a limited edition obviously)
Mental that people are happy to pay 2-3+ times the price for this book when there is going to be more available in a few weeks or so 🤷🏻♂️
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In reply to Post #285
The scalping on eBay I don’t agree on at all, more fool the idiots that buy them at over inflated prices creating a market for it.
Can’t personally see point in keeping one unread when there are people that wanted one that didn’t manage to get one.
Just my personal opinion though
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In reply to Post #284
Could be any reason why people buy 2 copies
A gift for someone
Sell on eBay
Keep a pristine copy for the collection. Know a couple of people that buy 2 copies of a book, one to read and one to go into the collection and I don’t think this is to uncommon either 😂
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Why’s everyone needing two books? Bit greedy IMO hardly like you need both is it
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In reply to Post #280
you have received 2 signed copies? So much for their "even if you buy multiple copies you will only receive one signed copy" policy. Just received 8 emails ( for 1 order ) that my 2 books have been shipped, no tracking information whatsoever and they have to make it to the Netherlands, hope they invested in some cardboard packaging for the international orders. Never had issues with them in the past, but this release has been handled very poorly.
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In reply to Post #279
I did say not too unhappy as book will read the same. That said if I pay for any goods that arrive in poor condition I will be unhappy. The author in this case is completely irrelevant as I buy books to read, not for resale value but getting a brand new book in slightly damaged condition is a bit frustrating
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In reply to Post #278
I’ve had books from them in the past with the corners bashed in. They’ll pack it and send it to you in the cheapest way possible.
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My 2 copies arrived today....both signed....one is going straight on E-Bay....
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In reply to Post #278
In a hundred years time the fact that the corners are bent over will probably make them priceless.
For God's sake it's bloody fishing.
Let's get some perspective. Terry Hearn is a Damn good fisherman.
He's not Saint Paul on the road to Damascus. Or is he?
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In reply to Post #274
Same with mine. Clearly been dropped on it's edge with the corners having been crushed. Almost certainly down to the poor packaging. That said, got the book and it does not change how it reads, so not too unhappy
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Still not got mine. Had a note to say a parcel was in the red bin and got excited. Turned out to be the missus boots order 
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mines turned up today,not signed but in perfect condition.
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In reply to Post #273
Just gets better and better this, glad I couldn't order, they didn't reply to my e-mail so I thought stuff them 
Feel sorry for those of you getting damaged books 
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In reply to Post #273
yes mines damaged, looks like it has been dropped on its side and dented the hard cover front and back.was wrapped in bubble wrap then put inside a plastic bag. looked like it had been wrapped by a 3 year old..
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In reply to Post #270
Seen a few have turned up battered. Looks like Calm Productions sent the books out in jiffy bags, which therefore no protection on the edges or corners. Just more evidence that the company are total rubbish.
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In reply to Post #271
Guess it just comes when it comes then!
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In reply to Post #270
Nothing mowgli just turned up not signed for
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Question to those that have received theirs - did you get tracking information?
I got an e mail on the to say it’s shipped and another to say it’s completed, but nothing has been delivered and there’s no tracking info, just a line that says ‘not delivered yet’
Just wondered what confirmations you’ve had!?
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In reply to Post #255
Ah, my confirmation was at 11.31pm on1 Dec,, order # 9662. There is hope then ( though I really don’t care about the signature, and my US born wife says if I die first my carp library just goes in the tip.🤔🤔🤔 ).
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In reply to Post #267
Mine arrived. Dont think its signed. Guessing those that are its on the inside front cover?.
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Mine's not turned up yet, hopefully soon
Still can't believe the madness, wonder how the traffic compared to normal numbers
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In reply to Post #262
5,000 is the correct number
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In reply to Post #264
shhhhhh, put in safe place, that thing is worth bloody millions!! Ask Del&Rodney if you dont believe me!
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In reply to Post #259
Got mine today signed, it says " all the best uncle Jim" ???????????
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so those who have got their book, whats it like? is it a good read.from what little you may have read so far..
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In reply to Post #261
5,000 I gather is correct for the first run.
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In reply to Post #258
Saw a few people say there was 5000 printed in the first run but that could just be pure speculation
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In reply to Post #255
Mine was 9552 recieved today signed 👍
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In reply to Post #255
I ordered mine around that sort of time as well but my book wasn’t signed unfortunately. Reckon I must of just missed out
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Wow... Calm seriously underestimated the demand didn't they. 28k plus hits on there site when it went live. Be interesting to find out how many they printed.. And there was me thinking the book market was dead.
Let's hope me mrs got her arse in gear on the link I sent her and got me a copy for me birthday or for Christmas. 
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In reply to Post #256
Hopefully you be one of those who got the book signed
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In reply to Post #255
Thanks mate. I have got 9210, but my order was a couple of hours later so perhaps the number doesn't tell much about the book being signed.
Edit: Mine was ordered just before 3pm so earlier.
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In reply to Post #254
I managed to order the book around 11.30pm on the 1st December, the order id is coming up as 9595
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In reply to Post #253
What was your order number?
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In reply to Post #252
Got my book today, and it is signed
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In reply to Post #251
Same, calm are posting stuff with people getting their books like they've done a good job and handled it well 😂🙄
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In reply to Post #250
Still waiting for mine
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In reply to Post #249
Got mine today - Royal Mail delivered.
Pretty sure the Jan reprint would be second edition.
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In reply to Post #248
That's my thinking too mate.
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In reply to Post #239
not sure, but I would guess it's a 2nd edition then. But I could also be wrong
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In reply to Post #246
They said the signed copies went within minutes of them going live even though they wasn’t intending to let them go live at the time so I highly doubt anyone I no will have a signed one
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who delivered it please , royal mail dpd etc??
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In reply to Post #241
Got mine also today
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In reply to Post #242
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In reply to Post #241
Send it back, go on be the first. If its signed complain someone been scribbling in it.
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In reply to Post #239
Now sold out as per Calm productions latest fb Post.
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Saw on FB that a re-print is due end of Jan.
Does anyone know if that would go down as a re-print of the 1st edition or would it be a 2nd edition?
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In reply to Post #234
I’ve seen a few people on Facebook apparently got there copy now
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In reply to Post #236
Ho Ho Ho
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All being delivered by Terry himself on Christmas day.
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In reply to Post #233
I Couldn’t agree more,..... Sent an inquiry about my order. Still awaiting response.
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Just seen someones Instagram has a physical copy?
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Now it’s listed as sold out!
Who knows whether this is true or whether they are trying to hold back orders to catch up with postage.
What a shambles Calm have made of this launch.
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Ordered it last night. Fingers crossed it arrives at some point in the next week or so.
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I've not had a dispatch email yet
Just confirmation and money has been taken
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I might be a load of ol shyte read yet ....if it turns up...
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Anyone know if calm use a courier or they come via Royal Mail?
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In reply to Post #227
Ive had 3 emails saying shipped but they said to ignore them
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In reply to Post #226
I've just logged onto my email,ive had no other emails other than the 3 I got last week,
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In reply to Post #225
Aren't these meant to be getting posted out this week or has that been c0cked up too?
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In reply to Post #224
Yes I thought that but they are not advertised as signed
There are 3 on eBay now
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In reply to Post #223
God knows maybe they think they might get a signed one?
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so you can go onto the Calm Prod site and create an account or just buy one and check out as a guest.
either way you pay £39.95
So why are idiots bidding over £75 on ebay for them ?
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In reply to Post #219
I did that the week before I ordered my book anyway, I assumed you had to have a account to order the book but seems not lol
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In reply to Post #220
I checked out as guest and got confirmation email
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In reply to Post #219
Let me check out as a quest, taken money from card but no confirmation of order email, let’s hope it goes smoothly 🙈🙈🙈
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In reply to Post #218
The website is back up and working now but you have to create and verify an account before you can check out
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A lot of fishing books have an initial run of 250-450 copies, very few have a print of 1000 +. Carp fishing demands a bigger print but writing books is no way to earn a living unless you are titivating bored housewives.
Amazon will publish your books and each copy sold is printed to order at big printer outfits. That way you get next to nothing for your work but your book is available and, should it become very desirable, a hard copy launch option can be taken up and you may claw back a few bob.
Let's face it, books are often just an ego trip and the money is a bonus.
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In reply to Post #214
There are a number of ways that books can be published:
You can fund the production yourself, doing everything yourself - you then get to keep the full sale price, less tax. Very few take this option.
You can enter into the sorts of deals described, where a publisher fronts the cost of production, and the author gets a share of the purchase price, usually small ( 5% - 10% ? ).
There is also the method used by Chris Yates a few years ago to fund his book The Lost Diary. Chris advertised what the book was going to include, and people paid upfront the cost of a copy of the book. Once a certain number were pledged (which were enough to cover the cost of production) the book was printed and copies distributed.
Popular authors can also command an advance to cover the cost of any research required in the production of the book, which again gets recovered by the publisher from the purchase price. This tends to only occur with top selling authors who will be selling shed loads of books. Despite the popularity of angling, its still a niche market with generally small readership.
Thousands of Terrys' books will be sold, possibly tens of thousands, and i'm guessing that might earn him tens of thousands of pounds ?
Who knows ...
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In reply to Post #215
I don’t remember all the details but Darrell Peck said that his deal was no money from the first x copies sold, then got paid an amount for the next quota, then a higher amount for the next quota..
It sounded like a smart way for the publisher to ensure that they cover costs for a poor seller and then splitting the profits of it is successful.
No idea if this is how most deals are done though. I assume that once someone has a couple of successful books they can drive a better deal.
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In reply to Post #214
I think it was Micky gray who said he had to front a huge amount of money to get the books done. I wonder how it works too.
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In reply to Post #210
I do wonder how many copies that will be sold ? And how much he makes out of it?
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In reply to Post #212
Agreed
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In reply to Post #207
Calm have always been *****.
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In reply to Post #207
I am sure he is referring to Calm Production Angling books, not the general book industry
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In reply to Post #209
Biggest book launch in years? Your deluded if you believe that, even last years best seller sold over a million copies but I'm sure Tel would be delighted with 10% of that.
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In reply to Post #208
Did you struggle like this to get your copy of Fifty Shades of Grey
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In reply to Post #207
on the biggest book launch in years not even close.
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Gotta laugh at it, just about everything that could go wrong has..... on the biggest book launch in years.
How ironic to be the IT technicians at Calm Productions over the last week
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In reply to Post #199
Your basket doesn’t mean anything until you place the order.
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Not received my shipped email yet  got confirmation email though
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In reply to Post #203
they posted on FB about it. something to do with phantom baskets and orders. Sounds more like people that have timed out the failing website and orders getting "stuck" at various points. They've closed the webshop so they can delete them all and opening again soon for orders.
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Website message is that the store is currently closed.
Haven’t read the entire thread but are they limiting the numbers of books available?
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Received 4 emails this morning at 02.18 two of which state that my order is now complete and two stating that it has been shipped! Curiouser and curiouser.
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In reply to Post #200
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That'll teach Calm Productions to sell a book by some bloke about catching things that eat their own **** while using a bait boat
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I managed to get to the checkout on Wednesday morning but could not pay before the whole thing went t1ts up.
If i go to the Calm website it still sits in my basket but the webshop is closed - any idea if this will remain there when it re-opens or if i'll be back in the "bun fight" with everyone else?
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I got a confirmation email yesterday, now got another and also an email stating books been shipped..calm have already stated today they aren't shipping until Monday. bloody strange..
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In reply to Post #193
They put a picture of him signing it inside the front cover 
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In reply to Post #195
Funny ain't it, I enjoyed the first one so much so that I read it in one sitting but the second took me a few weeks of picking it up and putting it down, the misses managed to order a copy for me of the latest one for a Christmas pressie, if it's not signed I'm not bothered so long as it turns up as she hasn't had a confirmation email at all but paypal has confirmed the payment for the order.
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In reply to Post #190
I disagree. I found his second book a much more enjoyable read. Maybe that both Terry and his angling had matured somewhat but I related much more to him and his fishing at that point than in his 1st book
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In reply to Post #184
bit more to it than that writing and earning out of a book..
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In reply to Post #192
So there is
So my last question is how will anyone know if the signed copy they have bought is genuine?
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In reply to Post #187
There is two on the Bay now. One clearly stating that he "bought it around midnight and not sure whether it will be signed or not". £80.
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In reply to Post #184
Calm Productions sell other books too, so the difference in order numbers doesn't relate directly to the number of TH books sold
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In reply to Post #189
His first is a classic. Makes you want to go fishing for impossible fish straight away. Inspirational.
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In reply to Post #187
£35 plus £4.95 postage I think
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In reply to Post #186
Same 😂 I’ve got all 3 now and ain’t read a word in any of them 🙈 I will start though
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What's the RRP of this book?
People have mentioned ebay but I can't see any on there?
And lastly what's to stop people forging the signature?
Thanks
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In reply to Post #185
I can't even read.... I only got it because I have he's other 2
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In reply to Post #184
I dont think I'm going to buy it. It's pitched at the very top end of hardback fishing books for price and it seems far too much trouble.
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In reply to Post #154
My order was 2000 and something if yours is 12k and he's sold that many books that's 420k. booooom nice little pay day. well deserved a champion of our sport. hope the tills keep chinging...
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In reply to Post #174
I think you'll be made to swallow those words..may be wrong though
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Ordered mine at 6.30 am today still no confirmation email but money taken let's see what happens and no screenactment shot let the fun begin
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In reply to Post #180
Inks still wet.
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In reply to Post #179
They addressed this on their Facebook page and said to just ignore it as books won’t be shipped until earliest the 7th december.
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In reply to Post #178
I paid 35 quid for international postage - could almost have picked them up cheaper. Got three emails - one for each book saying that it had been shipped and one saying that my order was completed. Strange since Terrys book wasn't going to be shipped until the 7th.
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In reply to Post #175
did you pay 1 shipping cost because terry isn't released till Monday?
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In reply to Post #176
its why I get my books mostly from the shows and get author to sign them to rich from....who ever..got many that are worth lots to a few id expect but worth feck all with my name in it. end of the day when I'm 6 ft under my daughters can bin or read them..
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In reply to Post #174
I do think greed is a motivation with a lot of folks. Carp book + signature = ££.
I'm afraid those days have gone. I am guessing the 1st edition print run of these will be substantial. Its not like Phil Thompson's days lol
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Just recieved an email from Calmproductions saying that they have shipped my books. Ordered Adam Pennings book along with Terrys. I'm sure a signed book will make me catch more fish, but I will still consider reading it it's not signed.
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In reply to Post #173
not books from terry that have a large print run..
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In reply to Post #170
Personally, I really cant see the fascination with NEEDING a signed copy - its the same book, which is mainly for reading?
Re-sale value I would imagine, some books command a lot of money.
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Another clown on the Bay selling an imaginary copy. 10% to RSPCA. 2 bids £52 so far.
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I got 1 copy into my basket at 12.14 am launch night but the site went wonky after I clicked pay for cart..tried again this morn and payed in seconds using guest..one email conformation..god knows what I've got signed or unsigned..not that I'm bothered...lets hope their courier service is good, cause I've had trouble with very late deliveries on other books with calm..
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In reply to Post #157
Absolutely ridiculous some of the comments on there. Great way to waste 5 minutes
Personally, I really cant see the fascination with NEEDING a signed copy - its the same book, which is mainly for reading?! Its all quite amusing.
Managed to order 2 copies (as with some of my other books, one to keep and a reading copy that gets chucked in the rucksack etc) this morning. only the 7 confirmation emails and couldn't give a hoot if one was signed.
Whats also amusing is the amount of people who have been messaging the ESP social media pages asking what they can do about it one bloke even messaged asking if he sent his book in could they forward it to Terry to be signed.
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In reply to Post #168
He is ok he didn't win the book in a raffle
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In reply to Post #166
Oi you'll have the ethics police after you, surprised he hasn't chipped in already
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In reply to Post #150
I very much doubt it mate according the there post on Facebook, all the signed copies where gone yesterday within minutes of going live which a lot of people didn’t even realise it went live so missed out
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In reply to Post #162
Sorry no swapping but have a look at my ebay listings
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By the amount of negative posts on social media. Youd of thought a lot people worlds had come crashing down around them..
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Only one email confirmation for me also
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just the 3 emails for me,probably means I'll get a copy of still searching
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In reply to Post #161
You likely got a signed one in that case
Wanna swap for my none signed one?
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I managed to get through yesterday after hours of trying. Got the email confirmation at 14.48 - and only one email.
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In reply to Post #152
No email either 😕
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In reply to Post #158
Indeed, a few tears involved
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In reply to Post #157
Yes Yonny there are some unhappy souls out there
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The online store has now been closed. You couldn't make it up
Reading through the comments on the latest post from Calm is good for a giggle.
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In reply to Post #152
Check your junk box I had 10 emails sent at 07.25 today confirming the same order!!
Michael
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In reply to Post #153
Don’t think anyone that has ordered after the initial crash will be getting a signed copy as Calm have suggested the signed copies went in a couple of mins before the crash
It crashed before any were sold (before midnight). I think what they're saying is all 500 went immediately when they went live for testing the fixes.
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In reply to Post #150
It’s a good point! Again, doesn’t bother me as I’ve got no intention of selling that or any of the other books I have. I can see the sentiment in a personalised message maybe, but don’t see the fuss in a book with an autograph in.
My order number was 12000 and something - my assumption is that that was the copy I will be getting, and therefore people with order numbers 000500 and lower will be getting an autograph
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In reply to Post #152
I had 8 confirmation emails 5-10 mins after I ordered about 11.30 last night
Don’t think anyone that has ordered after the initial crash will be getting a signed copy as Calm have suggested the signed copies went in a couple of mins before the crash
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Still no email....maybe it was because I ordered 2 copies....😂
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In reply to Post #143
Not just any old book though Joe, but yes it does seem a lot of fuss
My biggest regret was lending out my signed copy of A Quest for Carp by Jack Hilton and not getting it back
I hate to think what its worth now
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Does anyone actually know whether they got a book within the first 500? I’ve had the confirmation email but not sure if it’s signed. Not to fussed either way just interested to know if others know.
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In reply to Post #147
11 confirmation emails for me...so far!
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In reply to Post #146
If the shows go ahead...
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In reply to Post #141
All this grief over a few pages of paper
Just buy it in March and get the fella to sign it at one of the shows. Problem solved.
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In reply to Post #143
Hang on, it is a book a man has written his name in!
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In reply to Post #143
Absolutely agree
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All this over a feckin book 🤣
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In reply to Post #134
I actually called in the shop the other day and asked the old boy if he had Fly Fishing by J R Hartley and he really perked up...
I only got four confirmation emails. Seriously lets hope Calm Productions prepare themselves adequately for Terry's next book in 2034. I get the feeling they won't though.
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In reply to Post #140
only got 7 
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In reply to Post #137
I have just received 30 confirmation emails... thats a bit worrying...
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In reply to Post #138
I fully expect the site to crash again now that has been published
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In reply to Post #136
makes you wonder how many they have sold
I'm guessing quite a few
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Still not had a single confirmation email.... ...feeling left out now...
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In reply to Post #135
Statement from Calm:
As you are aware, the site is up and running, all be it very slowly, but safe, Every time we fixed a issue, and went live to run tests, people were gaining access, and placing orders.
It wasn't our intention to stay live at all, as promised yesterday, but once one issue was sorted, and we could look at all the data, it turned out that all the 500 signed copies had infract all gone within a few minutes of us going live yesterday.
So, rightly or wrongly, I decided to keep the site live so that everyone who was waiting to place an order could do.
Everyone who has received a order confirmation email these orders are all ready to be processed and a shipment date added, Please remember, NO ORDERS ARE SHIPPED UNTIL MONDAY 7th DECEMBER. so if you do receive another email stating shipment date added, it will NOT be leaving till Monday at the earliest.
We understand people maybe still having issues getting on, and we are looking into this and are making changes as the day goes on.
Also, having seen many people on social media claiming they have a copy, no one, has a copy yet.... none are leaving us till Monday.
Once again, apologies for the issues, we ran tests and have ran bigger campaigns in the past, but, we had issues, and have done our best to rectify these.
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In reply to Post #133
my thoughts exactly Yonny
Piss ups and brewery's spring to mind
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As I purchased my copy I imagined a vast book shop full of bowing shelves and dusty floors. Behind the counter is an ancient old fella with a shuffling gait and short term memory loss who politely sets off, full of good intention but a foggy head, to fetch each individual order.
Should he manage to retrieve the correct book, he sets about writing your receipt with a scratchy quill and counts out your change, very slowly, in small coinage.
This is the future people, the shops are all shutting and this is what life is going to be from now on,
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In reply to Post #132
They are taking money off people so they're giving themselves an even bigger issue if they're not accepting all these orders.
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In reply to Post #128
I hope so but according to the calm productions page yesterday it said no orders will be taken and a new release date will be announced soon and it won’t be at short notice either so I wouldn’t count my chickens just yet
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In reply to Post #114
Just had 6 confirmation emails come through for the same order...... Calm Productions IT has gone potty
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In reply to Post #129
just ordered mine (I think!) - proper old school website - cracking up the whole way through!
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In reply to Post #128
We think so... but who knows lol.
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Still no updates on the Calm Prods FB page
so have we actually been able to order ?
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In reply to Post #122
A Glastonbury ticket would have been easier to order... Anyway, hallelujah!!! I've finally managed to buy one. Let's hope it's another classic.
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In reply to Post #125
Finally managed to order a copy, over an hour, as the website was so slow. 36 emails requesting password reset though....
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I’ve 8 emails so seems like I was lucky lol
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In reply to Post #121
Yup, just had 13 e-mails through lol.
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I managed to get one but looking at the comments on there Facebook page from last night no chance mine being one of the 500, bit wrong for all of us that stayed up trying to get on the night
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Do you get a free Glastonbury ticket with this book or something?!
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In reply to Post #119
Just got the same. 20 copies of the same email. All with the same order number and 1 item on each so clearly their systems are far from fixed
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I managed to order 1 this morning too. 6.15 am only got the 1 confirmation email. See what happens 🤞
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In reply to Post #117
I received confirmation email 20 times
for a horrible moment I thought i'd ordered 20 books but all order numbers the same
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In reply to Post #117
I ordered a copy this morning, I've had 13 emails confirming the order!
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In reply to Post #116
I managed to order mine this morning, no issues. The email confirmation went into my junk folder so check that if you haven’t had your email confirmation yet
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In reply to Post #115
I managed to get one this morning, keep trying mate.
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I've been trying for the last hour without any joy. It's the second day now. Calm Productions are a joke. Surely they must have had an inkling that the book might prove to be popular. Amateurs.
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In reply to Post #111
Mine went straight through to my junk box. Have a check.
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In reply to Post #112
Cheers both. Done the same but with the issues they had wanted to check it wasn't isolated to me. Money taken and order confirmed on their website so fingers crossed
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In reply to Post #109
I got no email too, took a screenshot of order number so fingers crossed!!
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In reply to Post #109
Not had an email yet so taken screenshots of the order confirmation 👍
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Ordered mine too, what a fiasco that has been. I hope that TH moved to another company next time as a result, serves them right if so.
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In reply to Post #108
Just placed an order as well so hope it goes through. Did you get a confirmation email as I have ordered and got the order number etc but nothing came through on email?
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Site still appears to be working fine.... just ordered 2 copies absolutely no problems at all....
Thought they said they were not going to take any orders until they announced the problem was fixed.... .......maybe the IT guys didn't get the memo....
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Just ordered one. Hope all goes well. 🤞
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Same and went through very quickly.
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In reply to Post #103
Just ordered my copy no problems. 👍
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In reply to Post #96
I agree.
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In reply to Post #100
i have managed to get a order in, no idea if i will be one of the 500 signed books i get tho
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In reply to Post #100
Heads up, folks. Regardless of Calms latest FB post, I just had a purchase transaction complete (slowly)..
So have at it!
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Hmmmmm looks like calm productions have been to the same course on distribution as Sony.
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In reply to Post #98
Did mine as well, agree that's how it should be maybe with the exception of very limited leather bounds.
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In reply to Post #97
It’s sad people will pay extra for this creating a market for flippers if people aren’t buying the eBay copies then it stops people wanting to flip items. If you people want it signed I’m sure you could get Terry to sign it at a show, he did my copy of in pursuit which was a nice touch.
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In reply to Post #96
The body coach signed over 3500 for one of his book releases, i suppose limiting signed copies helps those flippers on eBay etc to make a few ££££
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I can’t see the problem with Terry signing all the books, there are selling it for £40 including postage at the end of the day.
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In reply to Post #93
I took it to £3900 😂😂 seller has removed the listing 😂
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In reply to Post #93
100% just bidding them up lol
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£4,100 😂😂
Bet the person selling can’t believe their luck
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In reply to Post #91
Any more
£1800 lmfao
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In reply to Post #88
£1020 bid at the moment
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In reply to Post #88
£1020 now haha
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Should all keep bumping it up with no intention to buy it to teach people like this a lesson. Regardless if it’s signed or not I’m sure there’s enough copies to go round.
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£820 now
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still there on £122 with 5 bids..only have to click on bid history to see the bumping it up. 
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In reply to Post #84
Looks like its been removed, I expect he got some grief
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In reply to Post #84
Hahaha
Must be where he gets his casters from
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In reply to Post #78
one on eBay now,,with a bid,,books not even posted yet
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Be honest
Who didn’t expect something like this to happen..
and why complain on the esp Facebook page like a fair few have it’s not like it’s their fault is it?
Only 500 books to be sold with a signature and everyone wants that doesn’t they duh even my 5 year old grandson could have probably seen this outcome.....
I just went to bed
lol even told the mrs to leave it until after the rush has finished and just get him to sign it at a show if she’s that worried about it.
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In reply to Post #63
FB Update around an hour ago
“UPDATE:
Due to unforseen issues, the Website will not be taking any orders today.
We are working around the clock to sort this issue.
There will be an update later tonight or in the morning.
The website will not go live again, until we have made an announcement on social media platforms giving everyone the chance to see this new order time.
We will NOT post an Update, then go live instantly.
The New order time will also not be midnight.
Again we apologise.”
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In reply to Post #80
to be fair it isn't the number of signed copies that is the issue really
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In reply to Post #79
Utter shambles! 500 signed copies where he could sign 5 x times that..pre xmas too. Joke!
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In reply to Post #74
or the best. the hype is building
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Just wait a couple of days there be plenty on EBay
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2020, the year that just keeps giving
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In reply to Post #74
Oh I dunno, I reckon my Mrs might disagree
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In reply to Post #73
Yeah seen that buddy hopefully it will sorted, I don’t even care about a signed copy I just want the book lol
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In reply to Post #73
Well that has to go down as the worst release of anything ever
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In reply to Post #72
They've put a comment on their Facebook page. Doesn't really say much though other than no orders will be taken today!
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A few people managed to get one at about 4am this morning, on Facebook a hand full of people are saying that they got it. My friend managed to get one aswell about 4.30am he has shown me the email confirmation. Everytime I tried it just kept crashing so gave up not going to bother now lol
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In reply to Post #70
Got one in my basket before it crashed this morning
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In reply to Post #69
It’s not like they have had all year to prepare, and expect demand for it
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In reply to Post #68
Proper shambles innit
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In reply to Post #65
It’s like they didn’t expect tens of thousands of carp anglers to try and get their hands on the 500 signed copies.
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In reply to Post #66
Nope.
I’m sure the conversation with their IT support will be anything BUT calm this morning.
7 hours after one of their most eagerly awaitied new releases, still offline.
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Has anyone managed to get one ? Server doesn’t seem up to the traffic lol
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Sounds like the same problems I've had getting gig tickets online. To many people trying to access online at once. And when you do get on all sold out. How's that happen...
Dont worry boys i hear a second print run is already in the pipeline.
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In reply to Post #62
Fingers crossed we all don't have to wait days to order
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In reply to Post #62
Maybe the trilogy should be currently renamed as below...
In pursuit of the server
Still searching ...for a server fix
Threw the server
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In reply to Post #60
They need to sell some copies before there’s an issue with delivery
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In reply to Post #59
Should be available online by Xmas 2021 !!
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There was issues with delivery and damaged packages for Still Searching back in the day, if my memory serves me correct. The RMC forum at the time was awash with unhappy customers.
Let's hope for everyone that doesn't happen again.
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Stayed up for nothing by the looks of it 😂
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In reply to Post #57
Loads of advertisement for bugger all sales!!
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In reply to Post #52
At least the pre-release advertising worked.... even if the server to buy it doesn't
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In reply to Post #52
At least the pre-release advertising worked.... even if the server to buy it doesn't
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In reply to Post #50
Darn it, I suspect this will not be resolved tonight...
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Crap preparation by the publishing company, what more can you say. If the first 500 weren’t signed would this have made the difference?
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Did not expect this to happen! Going to be a long day at work tomorrow 😴
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Never did I think I wouldn’t be able to buy a book about fishing because of the sheer amount of hero worship
Lost for words if I’m honest
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In reply to Post #50
Yeahp crashed a goodun!
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In reply to Post #44
Maybe for sale, maybe not.... five minutes to midnight and the website looks unhappy....
Server Error 502 - Web server received an invalid response while acting as a gateway or proxy server.
There is a problem with the page you are looking for, and it cannot be displayed. When the Web server (while acting as a gateway or proxy) contacted the upstream content server, it received an invalid response from the content server.
Midnight
Service Unavailable
HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.
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In reply to Post #37
The Big S,
the estate lake, and maybe the 'other' lake with only 2 fish in it.
Nutty Lane
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In reply to Post #47
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In reply to Post #46
Fair enough.. why the need to post the fact..
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In reply to Post #45
I won't not interested what someone else catches
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In reply to Post #44
I’ll be getting one but doubt I’ll get one at midnight I’ll just order one tomorrow morning
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on sale tonight at midnight
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In reply to Post #42
There will be a whole chapter on bait boats don’t you worry
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In reply to Post #41
No but bound to be loads on sandwich toasters, power packs, the best line, bait boats etc.......... Or maybe not.
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do think there will be anything about water bottles ?
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James's fish Northwyke.
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In reply to Post #38
Charity babyface....one page chapter
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In reply to Post #37
Burghfield, casters fish, Thames, tunnels....
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In reply to Post #36
Got me thinking about the chapters in the book and the amount of known big fish he has had since his last one.
Anyone care to name them?
Jockey pingewood
Brute
Choco Stoneacres
Wood common Spitfire pool.
Chertsey mirror Chertsey
Unknown mirror Staines the one Si Hartop had.
Parrot Wasing.
And no doubt another shed load of other big fish making up the numbers.
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In reply to Post #35
Thanks
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In reply to Post #34
Calm products. But as already been mentioned not until the 1st December.
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Where can you pre order it from ?
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In reply to Post #32
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In reply to Post #31
Yup, it'd be a short chapter
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In reply to Post #26
agree on Chertsey.
regarding choco, i dont think (from memory - which is not always correct!) there wasnt much to say - found an inlet pipe starting up, saw a few fish in the area and dropped a couple of baits close in and off it went with choco (and another good one from memory).
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In reply to Post #28
The jockey and all the rest of them! having fished there in the past, i hope there is that in there
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In reply to Post #28
I hope so buddy
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In reply to Post #27
Wasn't there the jockey from pingewood too?
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In reply to Post #26
Ah cool
I remember an interview a few years ago when first mentioned the 3rd book. He said because of the time since the 2nd one there was too much to cover so he was just going to cover the best captures.
Makes sense really.
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In reply to Post #25
If you look throughout the various vids and promo shots released so far you'll spot your chapters on Burghfield, Wasing, The Little Grey etc.
I saw a mag article on his Chertsey campaign but would like to see that in detail. The Choco capture would be good to read about too.
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In reply to Post #19
How have some people seen some of the chapters?
And what are they?
It doesn't suprise me the video captures are in the book though
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In reply to Post #8
Geeza you can’t even order till the 1st lol
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In reply to Post #21
Gaz spoke about it on the Nash podcast
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In reply to Post #19
I think you'll find there will be a fair bit on the two little CV pits he spent a lot of time on, don't think much of that is public knowledge yet, but might be wrong.
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In reply to Post #19
I agree Mark, of the chapters I've seen they all seem to be waters that are covered elsewhere in one way or another. I'm hoping there's a couple of surprises in there.
In other news, Subsurface have just announced they have a new book out next Sunday. They kept that quiet.
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In reply to Post #19
Not that I blame him mind!
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Probably the first carp book which I have looked forward to in some years. A bit disappointed at the chapters though...he is focussing in the captures which we already know a lot about and holding the interesting stuff back.
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THE most eagerly awaited book in many many years
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In reply to Post #16
Found it mate 👍
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It mentioned signing the first 500 in the video description
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In reply to Post #14
I agree I never seen anything to do with that either
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In reply to Post #10
I want it now though 😂
Where was the signing of the book mentioned?
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In reply to Post #12
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In reply to Post #8
First 500. And you cant preorder until the 1st dec buddy.
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In reply to Post #8
First 500 not fifty
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In reply to Post #7
First fifty will be signed, too late if you haven't ordered yet.
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Preorder 1st December from calm productions. Dispatched 7th December.
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In reply to Post #5
Ring them and ask.
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In reply to Post #4
Suppose to be from the publishers Mpress what I heard but like I say can't find anything
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In reply to Post #1
Should be quite soon. I'm told it is with the publishers now.
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In reply to Post #2
Was mentioned on the esp YouTube page a couple of videos ago
Will probably be too late for Xmas this year I reckon as most of them are ready to be issued now for the Xmas rush
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In reply to Post #1
It was originally due for winter 2018 but keeps getting pushed back. I know it's due soon but I think we'd know if it was coming before xmas.
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Does anyone know when Terry Hearns new book is out I went to last years Carp Society show and there was talk about it coming out this year ie this month but can't see anything online
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