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In reply to Post #79
Ive been using a gardner duvet compact bag for 3 years. The compact fits nicely on my trakker levelite els.
The standard size must be enormous and would do a very big bedchair.
I find its warm enough until temps dip below 5 degrees. Then i simply add a bedchair cover and its warm as toast even in minus temps.
Great versatile bag, only slight niggle is the zips snag a lot.
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I paid nearer 100 quid for my carp duvet compact and that does me in all but extreme cold delights,I bought the sleeping bag cover for 59.99 and throw than on when it's really cold and I've never once been cold withbthat combination....I didn't realise the carp duvet had gone up that much in price.
I had the original ventec,by far the warmest bag I've used but sold it as way too bulky
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In reply to Post #77
The original ventec was the warmest bag I have ever used,it was massive to pack away though.The Gardner bag is now close to £200 I paid that for my dpm fortis bag
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In reply to Post #76
Paid £120 for mine, cheapest I could find the Fortis at the time was £220, how anyone can say the original ventec isn't a much warmer bag I don't understand as many used to say they found it too warm. The latest ventec has been re sized .
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In reply to Post #74
The price of these bags now make it not worth the money imo,you can get the snugpak fortis for similar money if you shop around
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In reply to Post #74
I agree with Jon
Had my duvet compact awhile now and used it on some pretty cold nights.
I find it better than the Ventec 5 season, the Fox bag is too big so you get big air gaps around you that seem to take ages to heat up.
I’m 6’4” and medium build so not small by any means, the Ventec must be worse for smaller people as the air gaps will be even bigger.
I use the compact duvet with the matching cover and have never been cold.
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In reply to Post #71
I've had one for the last couple of years.
Having removed the lower 'shoulder baffle' that was a complete pain in the ... shoulder, I like it.
The material's good - you don't get tied up in knots if you move about. The zips are fine - never had one get caught on the lining. Size is fine (I'm 6ft 3 and not as slim as I used to be - 'compact' model).
I've used it with a decent cover and hot water bottle on nights that have got down to -2 or 3 and been perfectly comfy.
Maybe not the best available, but a good value for money sleeping bag.
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In reply to Post #72
I was saying that to my mate as I'm looking for something warmer. I wouldn't say it's a 5 season bag
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In reply to Post #71
I've got the Gardner as well but don't think it will be warm enough for me once the frosts come, maybe wrong but time will tell.
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In reply to Post #69
I've got the Gardner bag and don't really rate it tbh.
But I'll agree with the post below 👇 definitely check out the fox one in XL
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In reply to Post #69
Fox ventec 5 season XL.
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In reply to Post #68
Hello guys. Just wanted to resurrect this post.
As i cant use sleep systems, i find them way to restricted arround the feet i bought a Fortis Techlite at full money.
What an absolute wate of money. The lining, although smooth is that baggy it wraps arround your feet tangling you up like your worst tangle and makes the whloe experience awful. The the lack of central securing strap means the bag twists all over the place as the lining wraps its self all over you. The there are the zips, is cut in suc a way there is little difference in length from the top leaf and bottom meaning you can not zip it to the top, the second you try and free your self from being swallowed by the lining the zips fly open. I had such a bad time with it i had to come home after 1 night. A quick email to fotis along woth some videos the agreed it was not correct and sent them off to snugpack. I got a respoce today to say snugpack say its fine so there is nothing they can do! Waste of 260!
I was then looking at the gardner bag but i dont think its uo to the job for me in winter. I sleep under a brolly in any weather.
Also qhile i sleep on a standard size bed i am 6ft3 and 22 stone, 55 inch chest and size 13 feet so i do need a bag with good room, preferably smooth lining.
I had a bag that was awesom in winter, i just couldnt rember what it was until today, a Wichwool Morpheus Ultra 7 but they dint make them any more.
Any other bags i should be looking at?
I like the look of the JRC 3d TX with its 3d sides it looks like it has plenty of room alothough it will be big on the chair.
I hate winter fir this very reason
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In reply to Post #67
I contacted Gardner back in June, they were waiting for confirmation of delivery, there best guess at the time was late July but clearly stock has not arrived.
They advised they would post on there Facebook page when stock has arrived.
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In reply to Post #66
Anyone seen any in stock anywhere or know when they are coming back in?
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In reply to Post #65
Billy Clarke have the compact in stock if that’s what your after. I paid £124 + tax for some reason and had mine at £144 or there about.
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In reply to Post #64
Ah shame , just what I was after.....but with the prices now so high there are far more ,and possibly better, alternatives to choose from
Yeah they look legit but strangely they are still showing as in stock
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In reply to Post #62
Sorry meant to update this. They emailed to say they was out of stock and issued a refund. Company seems legit though
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In reply to Post #62
I knew you were a bit dubious but did they come through at that price.....?
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In reply to Post #61
Yeah, they also have the plus one showing in stock at £125
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In reply to Post #60
Is it the compact? A few places had the full size one when I got my compact.
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In reply to Post #48
I came across gardnertackle24, which is run by apollo angling. They are showing stock for £115. Ive just ordered one so will see what happens. May be too good to be true and they are infact out of stock but worth a punt anyway. Paypal is taken so the protection is there
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In reply to Post #58
So do I but fortunately I'm only going fishing  lol
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In reply to Post #57
I'd need viagra to keep going for a five day session.
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In reply to Post #54
Off for a five day session in a fortnight.
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In reply to Post #42
I have the compact on a trakker levelite and I’m 6’4”
In the winter I use the DPM cover as well and find it warm enough, especially with a SIM underneath
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In reply to Post #54
Anyone know what the compact duvet is like compared to the one with the standard solar sp c tech sleep system. Size and room for a fatty wise please
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In reply to Post #53
There's life in us old buggers yet. Lol 😄
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In reply to Post #52
57 years ago. Not many still alive to make that connection. Let alone old enough.  one or two still ticking.
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In reply to Post #50
John Lennon fan if you're too young to get the reference I apologise, and you have my sympathy.
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In reply to Post #49
I've had a 365 and never found it warm enough when temps got below zero but for warmth the fox ventec was a far warmer bag and the warmest I've ever used. I'm hoping the duvet with the korda cover will be good for all but the extreme cold which is has been rare the last few years.
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In reply to Post #49
I dont think you are allowed to throw a Spaniard these days 
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Don't want to throw a Spaniard in the works. However if you are going to use it in the depths of winter I would go for the trakker 365. The Gardner will be ok in summer and autumn. Not in the really cold weather. Also I found it a bit restrictive unless you are on the slim side. I like to use my bag with the side open relying on the overhang to keep draughts out and the warmth in. The Gardner compact did not do this for me.
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#46 apollo angling at Marsh Farm but think it was the last one.
#47 very good fit, hoping with the removable top layer and the korda cover it will be good all year round.
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In reply to Post #45
How is the fit on that bed mate? Same size as the solar bed i have and i need to source a cooler bag
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In reply to Post #45
Hello mate where you get the bag for £120
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In reply to Post #42
I've just bought a compact today after phoning around managed to find one at the old price £120 instead of £189. Was lucky to get it as I was really looking for the solar ch08 bedchair which they had in stock at £199 so very happy to have got both, also bought the korda bedchair cover which is very nice with a soft waterproof outer fabric and zip in micro fleece.
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In reply to Post #43
lol Thanks Chris
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In reply to Post #42
I'm 6' 1" and the compact is more than big enough and swallows a large (standard) bedchair - would only go for the plus if you're Andre the giant / massively lardy or use a wideboy . . .
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In reply to Post #41
I see there is a newer version out of this now the plus model.
I'm not quite sure which one would be best for me, Does anyone know the difference between all the models?
I'm 6'2 and it would be going on a Trakker RLX Flat-6 Superlight Bed if it helps
Cheers
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Can anyone help with what size stuff bag to buy that the Compact will fit in? I’ve tried keeping it on the bed chair but with SIM as well its all too cumbersome!
Cheers guys
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In reply to Post #39
Just give the inside a good look over as the stitching on mine was absolutely terrible, all the seems coming apart.
I had to re sticth alot down at the foot end 
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In reply to Post #38
Just picked up a snugpak techlite yesterday and very pleased with the quality, this one has a drawcord and small flap to stop the pillow sliding off the top of the bed but still no middle strap but I don’t think this will bother me.
If the pillow still buggers off I might try putting it between the bag and the bed and see how that works, but on the up side I’ve managed to buy something fishing related that doesn’t come from China.
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In reply to Post #37
I know what your saying,I had a gardner bag on order but its been put back til after Christmas due to everything going on.The gardner bag has few nice touches but I think it looks a bit like cheap materials have been used.I don't mind the extra cost of the snugpak as I know its a quality bag as I owned one before.The only things I did not like was no strap in middle to secure to the bed and no flap at the top to stop the pillow vanishing in the night
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In reply to Post #36
Its less than half the price bradders so the Sunpak would have to bloody amazing to warrant the price tag in comparison
but i agree it would be good to hear from someone who has had experience of both
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Is this bag better than the snugpak fortis bag,has anyone used both to compare
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In reply to Post #31
Compacts won't be in stock til new year
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In reply to Post #33
Yes so i hear, Thinking Anglers having a total overhaul, I believe Oz is there as well and Adam Penning
they had a cash injection from Sticky baits
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In reply to Post #32
I see lewis has jumped ships to thinking anglers,always thought he was the drive behind gardner and find his videos quite funny
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In reply to Post #31
don't think there are any available, seem to be out of stock everywhere
I'll ask Lewis Read about stock for you
update Out of stock at Gardner should be back in a few weeks.
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In reply to Post #28
Should have added I’m after the compact.
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In reply to Post #27
Compact mate
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In reply to Post #26
Johnson ross have the standard in stock 😊
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In reply to Post #26
Fishing tackle to go on ebay £117, Total fishing tackle £119, Hooked tackle ebay £119, Invicta angling claiming to have them but I would avoid them like the plague. 
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In reply to Post #26
You looking for the Standard or Compact ?
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Hi sorry to thread hijack,
Can’t find any of these online currently, do we know if they’re discontinued or if they’re just all sold out due to more Anglers this year?
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In reply to Post #24
Used mine for the first time this weekend and couldn't fault it
Massive and very warm
Would definitely recommend
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I had the original Gardner Carp Duvet bag about 20 years ago.
It was a big bag, loads of room in it and used hollowfill fibre in the top and bottom halves but had no inner sections at all. It was British Army DPM which was unusual for fishing gear at the time. I don’t remember it strapping to the bedchair in anyway. The ‘system’ ( if you could call it that) was the bag, matching pillow, and unlined waterproof cover and a waterproof slip on welly wipe. It came with a big sausage bag to pack it in. Sold it now but still have pillow,cover and bag which I still use 20 years on.
It was very warm, didn’t use it with a fleece cover at all through winter. Wasn’t waterproof hence the cover which was just thrown over with no attaching points. So my question is - have they improved it much other than being waterproof?
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In reply to Post #22
Thanks anyway it looked good on youtube😂
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In reply to Post #21
Sorry I thought that was a typo 
That bag doesn't look great does it
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In reply to Post #20
Mines the crash version thought I crash the thread lol
Maybe the duvet version has a strap and the crash is designed to
crash in the floor👍🏻
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In reply to Post #19
Mine has hoods top and bottom, and a big strap in the middle 
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In reply to Post #18
I’ve just bought the crash version , how the hell do I keep it on the bed?
The top bit folds over the head rest and has toggles to tighten the top part of the bag
These don’t seem to keep it in place
At the bottom it has two loops , not sure what these do?
I’ve now cable tied the loops to the frame and used the bottom zips as another anchor points
For another two ties
The zips are a bit crap also🙁
Wouldn’t a few bits of cord or similar along its length be of more use , considering Gardner
don’t make beds and their sleeping bags would need to fit any scenario
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In reply to Post #17
I leave them on the bed
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In reply to Post #16
The only trouble I've had with mine is trying to get it back in the bag.
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After seeing gerrys post about the gardner sleeping bag cover I took the plunge and bought one, oh my lord,its taken warmth to the next level..ive left the inner leaf out and thrown the cover over...now I usually feel the cold in winter but this is next level warmth with this combination.
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In reply to Post #12
No mate not guilty  that bit didn't annoy me, and like the other poster mentioned it seemed to help keep the pillow in place. I can't see the toggles on the bottom lasting long with me, only done one night in it and I kept wrapping my feet in the loose bit.
The zips feel good to me so far
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In reply to Post #13
I had a tailer take the baffle out and stitch it up...causing my shoulders to ache,other than that its a great bag
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In reply to Post #11
The fanny flap at the top is a poorly executed attempt at a heat retention baffle taken from 'proper' sleeping bag designs.
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In reply to Post #10
Me too. Just occurred to ask the question. How ridiculous is that just to have one section? I found it cold with the section in last winter and had to have a cover on top which sorted it out.
Yeah, those toggles are pony, same as the s hit zip. Cheapskates couldn't even put in a decent YKK in the thing. At some point I'll get the drycleaners down the road to sort the zip out.
duggs, am I confusing you with someone else or did you cut out that moronic baffle at the shoulder line. What is that effort all about 
I'm wondering that these guys who come up with these things never think to look at something, say like a military or expedition bag and scale it to a bedchair. I think that instead, they brainstorm in the office and someone goes "sleeping bag", go all Homer Simpson, sometime later voilà...s hit bag.
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In reply to Post #1
Definitely the compact version, this would fit most bedchairs fine. I've got mine on a tactical one perfectly.
Used it for 4 nights and it's brilliant, the top single leaf keeps the heat in well and you have enough room to move around in it.
Only thing I found a bit odd was the duffle flap running across the top end of your bag (where your neck would be when laying down)
I don't know what it's for but it holds my pillow in perfectly!! I would imagine this would cause discomfort without a pillow
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In reply to Post #9
Yes, just a single leaf that fixes to the upper with some crap looking toggles. I was expecting an 'inner bag' tbh
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Did you all get one extra internal layer or two pieces?
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I used mine for first time last weekend, i have a compact on a Trakker levelite, I'm 6'4" and found it perfect
so well happy.
I do think an additional cover will be needed if it gets really cold
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In reply to Post #4
Yes mate very warm I didn't even use my bedchair cover with it through last winter... Just the bag...
Plus I never zip one side up incase I get a run 😁
For the money it is very good, warm, waterproof outer, and easy to move around in...
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In reply to Post #5
thanks mate.
it looks good and its got a lot of good reviews.
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In reply to Post #4
I used mine for the first time last weekend and it was great. It was very warm and comfortable well worth the money. Mine was the compact version.
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In reply to Post #3
is it nice and warm mate?
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I have the standard bag on a standard chair and there is a bit of overhang... So yes a compact will fit better
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In reply to Post #1
Compact.
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looking at picking this bag up for this winter.
i know its well reviewed on here but id like some more recent views on it.
do i need the compact or the wide for a standard bedchair?
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