|
|
Apologies DP damn mousepad.....
|
|
|
In reply to Post #17 Hi Vossy. I didn't actually say a couple of days UV equated to being clued up.Quite the opposite in fact. I was expressing concern at the float/feeder fraternity who as a rule flit between venues on a weekly basis thus exposing their nets etc to a Potentially higher risk of exposure to disease. unlike most of us who tend to use one maybe two venues per year or at least have a greater understanding of Bio Security. I agree that in an ideal world nets/slings etc would be venue specific.However reality is somewhat different! At the end of the day, I think the average club would find it hard to swallow the financial burden ( Unlike a syndicate with a higher level of income) of supplying wet gear that stays on site..shortsighted I agree but an unfortunate reality, Apart from wear and tear there would be the possible issue of theft..both from members and people getting in on the sly leading to replacement costs.
Although far from ideal,drying nets with some level of UV exposure between sessions for a few days has to be better than nothing at all. Personally my nets etc are soaked whilst setting up,then drip away. Once home,they're rinsed off and left outside to air dry. Not sterile but certainly sanitised..
Andy
|
|
|
In reply to Post #17 Hi Vossy. I didn't actually say a couple of days UV equated to being clued up.Quite the opposite in fact. I was expressing concern at the float/feeder fraternity who as a rule flit between venues on a weekly basis thus exposing their nets etc to a Potentially higher risk of exposure to disease. unlike most of us who tend to use one maybe two venues per year or at least have a greater understanding of Bio Security. I agree that in an ideal world nets/slings etc would be venue specific.However reality is somewhat different! At the end of the day, I think the average club would find it hard to swallow the financial burden ( Unlike a syndicate with a higher level of income) of supplying wet gear that stays on site..shortsighted I agree but an unfortunate reality, Apart from wear and tear there would be the possible issue of theft..both from members and people getting in on the sly leading to replacement costs.
Although far from ideal,drying nets with some level of UV exposure between sessions for a few days has to be better than nothing at all. Personally my nets etc are soaked whilst setting up,then drip away. Once home,they're rinsed off and left outside to air dry. Not sterile but certainly sanitised..
Andy
|
|
|
In reply to Post #16 I'm not being at all funny with you Andy but if your idea of 'clued up' is what you say it is, 'dry and a few days U.K uv' then were in troble.
EDIT, only way to ensure minimised transference is to have fishery only nets/slings/mats....note minimised, never 100% just best practice.
The difference between sanitised and sterilised is massive.
|
|
|
My local venue has installed dip tanks over the last couple of years. Each now has a trail cam covering it/usage, minus cctv advice signs . Got zero issues using them personally as i'd like to think most of the carping lads on there have enough nouse to at least let nets dry or be exposed to UV for a few days between sessions. Its the less clued up members members and the feeder/float brigade who hop between waters that pose more risk IMO.. Out of interest whats a recognised dip tank agent? The one we use appears to make a real mess of any alloy components that come into contact and it smells a bit chlorinated......
|
|
|
In reply to Post #14 Same again but the water I fish you have to take the lid off and put it back on so no dilution with rain water.
Dry nets whilst better are no guarantee of safety, spores can survive indefinately even in dry conditions.
I'd like to see evidence of dip efficiency as to my knowledge (and work experience) to get rid of spores you need physcial and chemical actions. In Pharmacy we used to use alcohol dips until it was realised spores could survive and transfer in the alcohol bath
|
|
|
In reply to Post #13 Same here. I've always thought it was a pointless exercise ,as the liquid never gets changed. and just gets topped upped by rainwater, so must continually being diluted. However rules are rules. I always make sure my nets are thoroughly dried anyway, so I'm sure they're safe.
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1 Just in & out is what my current club requires.
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1 surely that depends on what disinfectant is being used?
|
|
|
In reply to Post #7 Completely agree mate, if it’s the rules then just do it I don’t u first and certain people refusing to do it. Instant ban on my syndicate if you don’t do it for long enough and rightly so.
|
|
|
In reply to Post #5 Too right, if it looks like it hasn't been changed in months and has it's own ecosystem, then I will not dip my net in it then place my net into the lake.
Some rules just cause harm. No braided mainlines when Pike fishing, flimsy netcords of 42'' landing nets when there is weed/pads in the margins, no wading on the same waters so some people pull backwards on tethered fish etc etc.
|
|
|
In reply to Post #5 Spot on
Also a major flaw in the point, the UV strength for 6+ of months of a U.K year wont be sufficient to kill the spores/virus/fungus/bacteria, desication the same too
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1 We have just set up a dip tank on our syndicate.
We ask that members must use it if they have fished anywhere else on their last trip.
Wrt dip times, I'm ok for them to give all their fish handling gear a good dip then load onto their barrow and go to their swim so they nets and mats etc will have plenty of time to absorb the Bio VX disinfectant.
|
|
|
In reply to Post #6 A few have started doing it. Good idea for both fish safety and the angler, less crap to carry too
|
|
|
A very well run lake near me tells you to leave your nets, slings, cradles even buckets used for putting water on the fish in a dip tank and leave it for at least 15 minutes a quick dip is pointless and does nothing. They have cctv pointed at the tank to watch if you do it or do it long enough, if not you get banned. They definitely check I’ve known a few occasions where people have been given lifetime bans for not doing it
|
|
|
In reply to Post #3 Are you saying that you don't dip your nets/mat even when required to by a fishery?
Surely it's not your decision to make as to whether their dip is effective?
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1 I was fishing a water that had dips. Give your net a good dip, shake it off and place it back in the sleeve to soak and leave it there until you are set up.
It surprises me though, if I had a fishery there’s no way I would be letting people bring their own nets slings and mats, not with some of the **** that’s around today. A water I used to fish got KHV a few years ago now, terrible news
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1 I haven't dipped a net in over 20 years because it's a pointless exercise.
Sunlight will do more to kill nasties than a tank of solution which probably hasn't been changed in years.
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1 For most things to work nets etc need to be saoked for at least 30 mins, not just a quick dip like most places require. Although if they are bone dry beforehand the likelihood of transferring disese is minimal
|
|
|
When dipping nets ,slings, cradles or mats in a dip tank ,
how long do you leave them in for or just in and out
|
|