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In reply to Post #132
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In reply to Post #130
Are you camo Clive in that fox video?
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In reply to Post #130
Yeah ok Andy McNab you crack on son
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In reply to Post #126
Lol. No.
There are reasons why you'd have to go SAS stylee and not been seen as CaRpS can be a smart foe and stealth is the key on occasions [looks at gilly suit and smiles to oneself].
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In reply to Post #128
It's usually the scruffy looking bloke with all the battered gear that’s catching them all .....
I do my best 
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In reply to Post #126
Your right Noj. It’s not about pleasure or even catching carp, can’t be when you see how some perform. it’s about having all the gear, finely tuned, precise, polished, neatly aligned in his “swim” and looking like a bad arsed carper 
It’s usually the scruffy looking bloke with all the battered gear that’s catching them all 
Saying that though, carp fishing can be bought in a box nowadays, you can give a complete idiot a decent bag of bait and he will catch, even if he does not know why, and that’s the difference 
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In reply to Post #126
Don't see the term " specimen angler " much these days, wonder why.
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In reply to Post #125
Amuses me that carp fishing doesn’t come under the pleasure angling banner.
What with all the spod/marker/boat/bag ‘work’, sitting about with wet wooly sleeves, general bell ends and need to carry on like an sas operative the last thing you’d describe it as is pleasurable 
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Its peg if you are match fishing and a swim if you are just general coarse angler I like to do spot of float fishing for tench so I am classed as a match man now even though the last match I fished was sea event over 30 years ago
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In reply to Post #121
nor share a peg
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In reply to Post #122
Ah, that's double, triple top secret mate. Need to know basis, and you don't need to know... 
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In reply to Post #120
Wheres that then?
pm if preferred 
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In reply to Post #120
Problem being she don’t want to bang you
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In reply to Post #119
Got naked lesbian swimmers on my venue. Would bang one of them mind, the other one, not so much...
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In reply to Post #115
When it's ajar, anyway just got back for brunch and some clown is having a swim with her dagg in my peg, am I OK to burn her clothes that are in my peg?
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In reply to Post #112
Several different reasons on here. Post 95 is the simplest answer without involving any dodgy Eastern European antics.
It seemed to go over everyones head so perhaps I need to add a smiley thingy.
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In reply to Post #116
Better get googling
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In reply to Post #115
 
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In reply to Post #114
It's all to do with photic and aphotic zones
When is a door not a door?
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...and when does a lake become a pond?
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In reply to Post #112
Yep. Because lakeside and riverbank were already taken.
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In reply to Post #1
Do you even know why they are called pegs.
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In reply to Post #107
Even if I was gay,you would be safe I would still have standards 
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In reply to Post #104
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In reply to Post #104
Should that be "Rock up" to your swim, pitch, peg etc??
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In reply to Post #106
Oh yeah, I'm a bit fresher this morning, makes more sense
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In reply to Post #105
Watch out for him. He’s a bit of a weird one at times 
Plus, I’ve heard he prefers blokes
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In reply to Post #105
If he looks in the mirror he will see a fanny 
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In reply to Post #103
I normally get your jokes but I don't get that one 
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Also remember you don’t turn up to a swim, peg you roll up to it.
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In reply to Post #100
Go look in the mirror
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Can't believe this has reached 100 posts.
So the bloke wants a rant yet so many people want to discuss and take it seriously.
It's just someone having a rant
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In reply to Post #92
You say 'used to get sneered at' ..... nice to know some things dont change huh?
peg/plot/pitch/swim/ number/name?.....at the end of the day it looks like you're the only one actually concerned with what you deem to be the correct terminolgy for whats basically a SPACE in which to erect your shelter...or are you still 80's style hardcore and insist on slumming it just because you can?
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In reply to Post #98
We all like a bit of fanny
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In reply to Post #1
It's where i set up and cast out a bait or two.........it may just be in between a load of stinging nettles. Who gives a....... ......
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In reply to Post #96
Job done
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In reply to Post #93
Swim to get wet, peg to dry your kit, spot to fish on and Robert's your father's brother.
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In reply to Post #94
Doesn't it depend if the lake is "pegged" with wooden stakes or similar to identify the swims numerically?
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In reply to Post #1
It's not a swim or a peg, its just somewhere close to the car park
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In reply to Post #92
Interesting what you say about the 80's. Around me it was all predominately match, i used to do a bit, i also used to carp fish but that was done with one rod whilst fishing for anything that swims on the other. Then progressing to two rods, and then 3
Match fishing its pegs and death at the draw bag 
Carp fishing seems to be more "swim" orientated
Personally, i dont give a ****
Its not a spot, thats for sure, thats what the carp feed on. If you were to fish from a spot you would be sat out in the lake piss wet through
Agree on the carp match thing, deffo not my cup of tea, i have fished a couple for the experience but as a whole pressure and carp fishing do not go hand in hand for me, i go to relax, i can put myself under enough pressure finding the fish and getting on them or moving, i can have a nap then
Thats the one for me. Fish for your self, nobody else
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In reply to Post #82
I'd go for the beginning of the 90's, but hey, it's splitting hairs.
Carp fishing back in the 80's had something different about it and was in a way separate with its own language and ethos to general course fishing which obviously goes way back before then. I used to get sneered at by the match guys in school in the early 80's for my carp antics. Maybe it was something to do with being the only one of two people specifically fishing for carp at school excluding all else. We were different, we wore ex army kit, slept under low slung nu brollies...hunting down waters that had never been fished for before for large carp... trailblazing for others to follow in our footsteps in our own, insignificant way. We may not have been the best anglers or the first to do similar, not by a long chalk, but we were doing our own thing on our own terms and not following the heard.
And then... ...then came the noddy
I was honestly mortified when I heard about the early carp matches and competitions; which still rocks me to my core till this day. Times they certainly do change and nothing stands still eternally. Everything is in constant flux. Change is guaranteed, unending and inevitable. I suppose that a huge part of the reason that I find the whole match thing so alien is that I'm not that much of a competitive person when it comes to angling; I'm just trying to catch for me and not trying to impress anyone with what I catch in the slightest. I literally don't care.
I'd be foolish thinking my world view is the only world view, that aside, a swim is a swim and not a peg. Even Jesus said that...
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90 posts and 1773 views in just over 24 hours, it’s a flyer of a thread
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What a load of ******** this thread is 
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Not taking the piss or out but I use a peg to hang my clothes on the line and as said a swim is what I do in water so **** of back to mum's nets you little bitch 😊
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In reply to Post #87
Does keep me entertained
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In reply to Post #86
And they're brilliant to read
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In reply to Post #85
Oh he will, he's got form for it
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In reply to Post #84
He hasn't completely gone off into meltdown mode.
Yet.
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In reply to Post #1
Can't see how you made it to 33 posts without being banned tbh
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In reply to Post #67
Don't think there is another branch of angling that can or will do a bigger disservice to carp angling and coarse angling in general than modern carp angling (since end of 80s).
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Forget swim, peg etc.
We need to address drags being called clutches, ‘spod work’ and disharmony between those fishing for small farmed stock fish and errr big farmed stock fish
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In reply to Post #78
Bunch of c**ts?
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In reply to Post #78
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So what's it called if it's a carp match.
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who fishes lakes with pre defined swims these days... its all about poking your rods through the bushes
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In reply to Post #73
Probably will be if he can draw a bad peg and make the most of the swim already.
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In reply to Post #74
Obviously affects people differently
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furloughed much anyone?
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In reply to Post #72
No probs 
Told them about some waters local to them that are well worth a shout. One of the guys I think is quite a top rod when it comes to match fishing and would more than likely be very successful when it comes to catching carp.
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In reply to Post #67
Ahhh ok, thanks mate.
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In reply to Post #70
I really don't know what you're talking about. Cryptic much?
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In reply to Post #67
Have you got a mind for it to play on?
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In reply to Post #67
They are pegs though. A swim is something you do to travel a distance in water.
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In reply to Post #57
It's be playing on my mind for sometime now and brought to the forefront of my mind as there's a few match guys at the place I work getting into carp fishing with me having to correct the language... ..."not a peg mate, it's a swim," with them badgering me for knowledge of waters and guest tickets - not happening as there's a no guests rule were I fish, so tough luck noddance, shuffle off to your pool that's crammed full of pasties with their faces smashed in.
I've not got anything against match anglers per se, just that the mentality that they bring with them in certain circumstances has been a big disservice to carp angling generally. What they've brought to the table has changed things in many ways, some for the good and others, not so much.
I appreciate that their tactics are highly effective and that they as anglers can be highly efficient, which can be highly enlightening and pretty impressive to watch, but calling a swim a peg when there's clearly no number where I'm fishing just ain't the one chief.
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It's a bit of fun for gods sake...if you've got nothing positive and all that
Moron...person who's bored and starts a thread where people have a laugh.
(insert your own) person who's bored and just has a moan for the sake of it.
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There was a Troll who came on here about 8 or 9 years ago.
Started a thread about casting 180 yards with a cheap set up. Got a few bites straight away.
Then started up numerous threads causing mayhem. Within a week he had really brought the forum to a halt with 90% of posts being replies to his increasingly ***** threads.
He then overstepped the mark by taking the piss out of a young lad asking basic questions and calling him names and giving him a hard time in general. It turned ou the young lad had a particularly bad illness and just getting out there fishing was an act of bravery and defiance in the face of his illness. I remember it well because I challenged him and got full trolling mode off him.
Strange thing was that in between his obvious delight in causing mayhem he obviously knew his stuff. His references to Cassien etc were spot on so he was either well read on the subject or had first hand experience. Just a shame he had some character defect that he had to cause chaos to get noticed 
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In reply to Post #63
Harsh but true.
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In reply to Post #58
And you've started half of them....😂😂
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In reply to Post #61
something like that
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In reply to Post #60
Wouldn't that mean they'd have to change their hoodies to cribbies
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In reply to Post #59
So, what you're saying is they'll be in their Crib and fishing their 'hood yeah?
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And to throw a spanner in the works, as I uderstand it the
The peg is on land where the angler sets up
The swim is the area of water in front of/allocated to the that peg...swim kind of gives it away
Self confessed noddy, besides, these terms won't be enough for the younger generation, they'll have to relable them...I don't know...Crib or something!
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Ive seen some moronic threads on here
but this gets **** of the year award but spose this is what you get when kids are off school and bored 
you only have to see its user name to realise what a moron
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In reply to Post #1
What brought this on though?
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In reply to Post #48
Lovely times Bro.
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In reply to Post #54
Hopefully not for a while yet
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In reply to Post #1
You know you will be re-captured dont you?
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In reply to Post #50
Jumpers for goal posts?
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In reply to Post #51
why are you so angry at match anglers? is it because most of them have a bigger pb than you?
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In reply to Post #49
Orly?
What, like rent/buy a muddy ditch, ram it with ultra fast growing carp, call the place a *syndicate* sell rake loads of overpriced tickets - like 100 tickets for a 4 acre pool, encourage anglers to wang in as much bait as possible, wait till there's a 40lb'er and then double the price.and litter the gaff with --> pegs <--. Nice.
Just like being in a 100 man lineup for your chance to bangz that hot milf...zero achievement on the scheme of things...
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Some of the best carp anglers I know started off as noddies.
I really enjoyed my noddy days as a kid.
Stick floating on the river Trent, fishing matches on local reservoirs and canals.
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I’m not sure about referring to match anglers as noddies
I think all carp anglers would benefit from an apprenticeship match angling and or fishing for all course species
Carp anglers can learn an awful lot from match anglers
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In reply to Post #46
For simplification:
Pegs = places to fish
Swims = places to fish
KnickerSniffer = emotionally confused pasty basher that eats munga and manilla 3x a day.
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In reply to Post #46
You'd know all about simple
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In reply to Post #39
For simplification:
Pegs = noddy
Swims = carp angler.
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In reply to Post #42
Bro
I believe "mush" is the latest term?
P.s. I say bro so do one lol
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In reply to Post #38
Nah, you was correct and the bailiff was wrong. Rods out = in the water.
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In reply to Post #42
Everything there is bang on with the exception of "bangers". Sounds like Team Korda chit chat. Suppose times they a change eh?
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I’m currently trying to rock up to my water. Bang my gear out and rinse it of scaley bangers.
How about that for correct modern terminology
Bro
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just don't get confused between a swim feeder and a peg feeder!
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In reply to Post #1
Simples really, pegs are numbered, swims are named, nice and simples
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In reply to Post #36
I had a run in with a bailiff over the difference between rods out/rods in.
I say rods out = rigs in the lake, and rods in = rigs on the bank.
I was having a mooch round after reeling my rods in (rigs on the bank obvs) and he said "Are your rods out?".
When I said no he went ballistic thinking my rigs were still in the lake.
And he disagreed when I explained the difference of what I meant.
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In reply to Post #34
maybe because not everyone can be asked to think of names and it's easier to just use numbers??
I dont quite get why this is so is getting to you so emotionally and mentally. I think you need to look within yourself as to why your anger is directed at how fishing areas are named and what the real issue is. Some self reflection and healing is required I think.
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Those crusty nickers you keep sniffing isn’t doing your brain any good
Try clean ones
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We could go old school and call it a pitch then your wrong calling it a swim lol
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In reply to Post #33
Not really coming to an end. Sounds like a water I was fishing last year run by ex nods, hence the numbered swims. Like why would you put a number next to a swim with beautiful weeping willows and call it No:10. Like really? Defies logic and reason.
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In reply to Post #29
I fish somewhere where the defined fishing locations ( ) are numbered. It's a carp fishery. So they are pegs by your definition below...on a carp fishery...the world must be coming to an end for you right now
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In reply to Post #31
Well I always say swim so I must be doing it right 
Not a lot of point being here so I will see you all on another thread
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In reply to Post #30
Pretty presumptuous on your part isn't it?
I'm just pointing out people's incorrect usage of words, which to me needs correcting. Correct usage of terms is important.
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In reply to Post #28
Desperate to make a name for himself on here, unfortunately probably not the name everyone else is thinking of when they read one of his posts.
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In reply to Post #27
This is England, not eastern Europe.
A peg on a lake usually has a number on it denoting the available places to fish from. You wouldn't fish from the Brambles peg, you'd fish from the Brambles (((swim))).
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Oh ffs he's back again....
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In reply to Post #1
A "Peg" is a location and dates back to the 16th century in Eastern Europe where they would attach one end of a net to a "peg" when netting a water for food (usually carp). These were marked out with specific distances to ensure they weren't netting the same area of water. As said being used now to map out fishing matches.
"Swim" is a modern terminology usually referred to the body of water in front of the designated "peg"
I'm not sure calling people noddies and advocating 5 year bans is really the way forward considering your lack of understanding of the terminology.
Best
Jon
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In reply to Post #25
A plot is what Guy Fawkes was plotting
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In reply to Post #23
A plot is a house on a new build site.
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In reply to Post #21
Yards... Pftt. It's rod lengths. :Nod:
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In reply to Post #1
Thought it was a plot as in plotting up!!
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There are lots of terms for a piece of lake or river bank where you fish from.
There are various terms to describe the piece of water you are fishing in.
There is a specific term for people who start threads like this - ****
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I think people are taking their replies a bit too seriously.
Let me the man have his rant
Any way talking in wraps rather than in yards is a far worse crime.
Bloody noddy instant Faceache anglers
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I generally just try and pick a good spot.
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In reply to Post #1
A lot of carp anglers sit behind stationary rods with alarms for when there sleeping , reading , watching films , they play the waiting game ,
Matchmans fish for a variety of species with a variety of methods quite often during the worst time of day for feeding activity on lakes and rivers ,
Trotting a float down a river is an art form , I'm struggling to think of any method in carp fishing that I'd call an art form , maybe floater fishing (just )
Who are the noddies 🙄😂
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In reply to Post #16
it really does not matter what you call it we are all fisherman
No we're not, we're anglers
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In reply to Post #15
Yes. Yes it does.
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I can't believe I just wasted a minute of my life reading all this, it really does not matter what you call it we are all fisherman
and I can't believe I just wasted another 20 seconds typing this reply....must go and do something useful like pick my nose for any real treasures
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Does it really matter what’s it called.
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In reply to Post #7
Inbox me yeah...😘
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In truth it's really simple - If numbered for match draws it’s called a “Peg” , if called a specific name it’s called a “Swim”.
~ I'm stamping 10 Swim name plates in Stainless Steel this afternoon for a River Fishery.
~ A bit more trivia – the term “Peg” comes from when the early matches started the officials would mark out the fishing locations using numbered bits of paper fixed to anything in the vicinity using Cloths Pegs.
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In reply to Post #1
If you can be arsed looking it up... The area where you sit is your peg... And the water in front of it is regarded as your swim.
Irrespective of what your fishing for?
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In reply to Post #6
Sorry, no it can be either, or also include lot or spot.
My club waters cater for both match, general and carp anglers. If you go onto their lakes you have to fish from the peg, and no casting into adjacent swims or pegs.
There are 3 swims on the point, but only 1 peg faces into the bay.
Of course, if you were fishing with Ritchie Macdonald, then you fished your swim from your lot.
If you are on some waters you are casting into your swim from your spot, and in your swim you may be aiming at a particular spot on the feature.
So to recap, from your peg you will be casting into your swim. From your spot on the bank, you will be casting to a spot in the water, unless you are on a peninsula, in which case you will be fishing on point.
😖😉😆😅
Seriously, I think you fish from the peg, and the swim is the water in front of you.😉
And finally, does it really matter?
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In reply to Post #9
Pitch went out with the Brolly/bivvy 😁
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In reply to Post #6
Actually the original term was pitch. Sorry to ruin your day.
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In reply to Post #1
Rants like this carry a 10yr ban didn’t you know? Mandatory day in the stocks where people cast sloppy spod mix at you.
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In reply to Post #2
Tip top girlfriend... Tip top.
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In reply to Post #4
Obviously you're a noddy/confused on your terminology and with me being the helpful guy that I am, I'm here to clear up any confusion you may have.
Match anglers = peg
Carp anglers = swim
Oh, 30 years carp fishing and still doesn't know the difference between swim and peg? Kek.
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In reply to Post #1
Not sure what you've been sniffing recently.
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In reply to Post #1
I call where I fish a peg or a swim, only been carp fishing 30 odd years, so I must be still a noddy
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In reply to Post #1
Peg, swim, it’s where you fish from
To be fair, most of the noddies you mention are probably far superior anglers than most carp anglers, they are good on fish
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As per thread title. It is not called a peg in carp angling, it's called a swim you effing noddies. Got it? A peg is what match anglers fish and a swim is what carp anglers fish. It's really not that hard to understand is it?
I guess the large influx of noddies who once sat behind a pole dangling a line for F1's and has got into carp angling could be confused, but this ain't noddy angling chief, this is carp angling, and within carp angling there are certain terms that differ like the use of the word 'peg' :shudder:
Calling a swim a peg should carry a mandatory 5 years inside and banning from carp angling for the rest of your natural and branding 'N' on the forehead.
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