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In reply to Post #78 Depends how many he had for sale. He in theory could have had one pot of each flavour or it could have just been a lie. Why not create the impression that you are in demand. He obviously isn't honest. TBe guy said he packed up because sponsored anglers didn't credit him. In fairness how would he know if they caught on his pop ups unless they messaged him about the capture. He could have posted the message to prove his point. For example I have never caught a fish on his tiger nut wafters.. Just because I bought it doesnt prove anything. These so called anglers could have bought them for market research which would be common. I love his pop ups but he is everything that is wrong with the industry and I will never buy from him again.
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In reply to Post #120 Anybody who pays £45 for a tub of pop ups needs their head testing.
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Last night 4 pots of baitroom pop ups
3 pots of sticky baits pop up and 1 CC moore
went for £57 .... Still stupid money as some where half full
Looks like the market has been saturated
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If he can get that money for a pot of pop ups then he is doing very well.
If anyone pays that amount for a tub of pop ups they are mad.
He is not forcing the customers to pay that money
Makes you think…
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In reply to Post #117 That’s like Jaguar relaunching the old e-type for £300k each.
Which is sort of what jaguar did, and they sold every single one.
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In reply to Post #114 I just don’t get the bloke.
Close down so lack of supply send eBay prices spiralling so then re opens supply to reflect eBay pricing!,,,
That’s like Jaguar relaunching the old e-type for £300k each.
The reason your prices went up was because you shut down.
The reason your prices went up was because you shut down
One more T he reason your prices went up was because you shut down
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In reply to Post #113 ive just seen this
45 quid a pop
i think thats just immoral ! 15 quid is toppy for quality but you would pay it
45 !!!!!!!
leave off
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In reply to Post #114 I have just sold a pot for £40.... I have a couple of other tubs Deep Six & Tiger toffee and vanilla if anyone is interested drop me a message
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In reply to Post #113 Based on his post about there being 9000 buyers when he reopened , by this point in 2022 he'll practically be a millionaire Rodney.
Then again he could be mentally unhinged.
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Just checked Bait Room prices - now £45 a tub!!!
Looking to retire early?
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In reply to Post #111 I just sold a pot on EBAY for £30 plus postage.
I still have some left of 1 pot and caught on them, they certainly weren’t any better than others that I had.
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In reply to Post #110 Imagine cracking off. Id usually be pi@@ed losing a helisafe and a lead, now id be pi@@ed losing a popup😭.
Joking apart if people are willing to pay that rhen fair play to them.
To each their own.
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Waste of time binned the lot
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In reply to Post #104 He makes me laugh. Thinks because they sell for £45 on eBay that’s an acceptable price of what they are worth.
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In reply to Post #106 Personally I would call him the 🛎🔚 of baits or the penis of pop ups🤦🏼♂️
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The Kanye West of pop ups.
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In reply to Post #97 Glenn if that made you spit you brew out someone else called him ‘The Elon Musk’ of hookbaits.
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In reply to Post #104 I’d love to fish em side by side with plastic corn
But couldnt bring myself to pay stupid amounts of hard earned cash
I’d like to believe a bait could be so good , but now settle for good baits at
sensible prices
That’s the thing with fishing , half the fun is planning the next trip , the next cunning plan
The next batch of bait , the next baiting strategy , the next snake oil potion 🎣😂
I was using the corn as an example, I prefer a foodbait pop up myself
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In reply to Post #103 Makes me laugh all the bum chums acting like his little flavored floating balls are the Holly grail and that he is some type of god or godfather of the bait world better bait out there for less he is pulling a few peoples pants down at that price then he is saying stop the hate or I will close the site and just sell them on ebay for a lot more
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In reply to Post #102 Happened to me to. Too many seem to be sucking him off saying what good value for money 🤣
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Just been banned off the Instagram page as the bloke can't take criticism for being a total con man haha 🛎end
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Just watch other bait makers follow suit.
I currently seem to pay up to about £15 a tub of pop ups without blinking an eye. Ive no idea how it snuck up that high.
Thinking about it, Id happily pay £100 a pot if they guaranteed me a nights sleep with no bream.
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A fool and his money etc etc
There are far too many fools in this sport though
Daz
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In reply to Post #98
"Daily Order Limit Reached in under 10mins Shop Re-Opens 13th June - 1pm
Today 9223 customers were active on the website, chasing my small amount of stock. It took just a few minutes for the site to sell out. My apologies"
I think people are thinking that because they are so expensive that they must be out of this world.
No-one seems to realise or comment that he has totally altered the make up of them.
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In reply to Post #96 Got to give him credit though
Dont work harder - Work smarter
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In reply to Post #92 I’ve just spat me brew at that💩😂😂😂
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In reply to Post #95 The silly **** posted on Instagram there were 9000 buyers waiting to purchase when he started selling again.
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In reply to Post #91 I'm the same
Bought quite a few of his hook baits and they are/have been good ... But Jesus wept
As he rightly says if you don't like it move on which I have now ... Actually I've worked out of his theory of the value I'm sitting on about £600 worth of popups & wafters
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In reply to Post #93
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In reply to Post #92 Maybe they were talking about extortion, market manipulation, etc?
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In reply to Post #91 Some bloke just called him the godfather of hookbaits. Ffs
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I have bought these pop ups and some, not all have been great. I was disappointed when he closed down even though I thought his reasons were a bit of a joke.
I see people comparing it to basias etc. This is totally missing the point. Alot of decent carp items are well made and deserve the price tag due to the actual cost to design and manufacture. Unfortunately, a few companies have exploited this with cheap Chinese imports with a high rrp. The baitroom is no different now and he should be ashamed. It can't cost him more than £3 to £4 a Kilo and he is charging basically £1 a pop up.
For the sake of the industry I really hope people see through this pure greed. I for one would never buy off him again.
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A well formulated (alternative) hookbait using decent nutritional ingredients is a vital part of the whole jigsaw IMHO.
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IMO the quality of the hook bait matters.
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In reply to Post #87 On the assumption that a carp accepts a zig as a hatching insect on its way to the surface it has to decide very quickly to eat it or not. They are used to this scenario. A bottom bait is not going anywhere and they can pick and choose what to eat or not. Just my theory.
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In reply to Post #86 If the quality of the hook bait mattered carp would not get caught on Zigs ?
Sometimes I feel we give them to much credit
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In reply to Post #77 Would you say then by your comment that it applies to ALL hookbaits?
Are you saying then that the quality of the Hookbait does not matter?
Or have i read that wrong?
Thanks.
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In reply to Post #84 Its worth noting he's changed some of the recipes as well.
I used to use the Pro Cell Pineapple but he's dropped the Cell Activator for a cheaper alternative.
Plus the baits look horrible now as they are cork dust based.
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Bloke is one of life’s true helmets
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In reply to Post #82 "..... for those that don't like the price, please keep your hate to yourself, unfollow the page and move on, there is endless choice at your price point"
The price point being based on the prices they went for when they were no longer available
It's the most open and blatant piss-take out of customers I've ever seen. I think I actually admire it
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In reply to Post #80 What did he say?
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In reply to Post #80 Agreed.
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In reply to Post #79 Absolute joker. The pretty rude, condescending message that accompanied his post says it all.
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In reply to Post #78 Laughing all the way to the bank aint he
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In reply to Post #77 Bait Room opened at 9am ans was sold out by 9.20.
So much for the price putting people off, just nuts.
He's also saying that the people who don't like the price move on with your hate
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In reply to Post #76 Not a fan of a guy as it is clera from my posts in this thread but: it’s a pop up simples fish don’t even get to taste it - fish dont have to suck it in to taste it...
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In reply to Post #75 He’s a greedy **** it’s a pop up simples fish don’t even get to taste it suck blow it out hooked that’s it so I can’t see that any other pop up won’t do same they ant going to eat as it’s £45, pop up 😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a bell end as it’s been said he jumped on the eBay prices and taking piss
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In reply to Post #74 Would be good if it was but unfortunately not
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How are they justifying that price ? Am I getting like 5kg of hook baits?
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I thought this was a wind up at first, that is until I looked on their website.
£45 for a pot of effing pop ups???? 😨
There isn’t a universe in existence that I would ever pay £45 for a pot of pop ups. What the hell’s happened to carp fishing???
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In reply to Post #70 EXACTLY!! look at the bigger picture and see where it all went wrong..
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It's a shame the guy will get away with it, there are fools who will pay that kind of money for a tub. Utter madness
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In reply to Post #66 Unfortunately there has been a massive influx of mugs into the sport over the years, all ripe for a proper rinsing.
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In reply to Post #68 It would appear so
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In reply to Post #67 So if known anglers buy them for 45 than he is ok with it if they dont say that they use them? Is that main reason for him closing down (not getting recognition) now out the window with higher price?
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In reply to Post #65
£45!
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In reply to Post #64 Absolutely spot on. Wouldn't pi** on him if he was on fire. Taking anglers for mugs, and as for them being the best, they're not
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In reply to Post #64 *£45
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In reply to Post #63 You know Yonny
****ing con man, £40
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In reply to Post #62 I hope people see sense and buy **** all off him
You'd think this would be the case wouldn't you. He says on his site "the price point will reflect the limited supply and high prices on ebay" so he's freely admitting it has nothing to do with materials/labour. He's literally seeing how much he can milk his customers for. Now I know his hookbaits are awesome, but there comes a time when you need to realise you're having your pants pulled down.
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In reply to Post #60 The problem is simple, it opens the door and provides a benchmark for others to charge a stupidly overinflated price for pop ups, £40ffs!!! (I know his are decent).
Wonder why there are so many hook bait companies popping up. Why would you want to **** about rolling Kgs of food baits when you can earn more selling tubs of 40 or 50 baits, its where the £s are
As usual the anglers will be on the arse end of it as everybody else try's to cash in on it!
The other problem, some will not be as good as others, we will all be paying £20 for a pot of ****ters if we are not careful, maybe ****ing £40
Commercialism killed carpfishing as we know it when it stepped away from the cottage industry. Its full of greedy ****s trying to milk it. £40 for a tub of pop ups is extortionate and blatantly outrageous. I hope people see sense and buy **** all off him
All the feedback last time, sounded to me like he was trying to sell it on and nobody was interested...
See where we are in 12 months, I will say, I told you so
Ingredients are going up, bollox, the carp tax is
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In reply to Post #60 I have no problem with it mate I just think it's hilarious.
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In reply to Post #59 But if people pay it then what's the problem??
No one is holding a gun to their heads when they order them.
Personally I think they are the best pop ups I have ever used but will I pay that amount
I don't know.
It will probably still work out cheaper for me as I actually use a whole tub of them as opposed
to wandering in a tackle shop, having a sniff of a few pots, buying a tub and then using about 3 baits
out of them
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In reply to Post #58 Yup.
So this guy is basing his market pricing on the price they were going for when they were no longer on the market. Sounds legit
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In reply to Post #57 Isn’t this the same company
I’m jacking it all in as I’m not getting the proper recognition in so much as people are using my baits and saying it’s something else ??
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£45 for a tub of popups
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In reply to Post #55 Funny how there's always tons of "new and unused" bait room pop ups on ebay.
No surprise at £40 plus, are we sure these are not still being made on the quiet or worse still, counterfeitted?
Post edit:
I didn't know that the shop was re-opening but surprise surprise, limited stock and prices to align with ebay.
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Just looked on his website
And it appears they are going to be £45.00 a pot for popups and wafters !!
Reflecting the price on eBay according to the website .... Thats an impressive price if he can sell them for that much
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In reply to Post #53 What happened to the most recent bait room thread?
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In reply to Post #52 I found that S2 worked well some places but not others (no idea why), baitroom has caught everywhere and some very difficult waters, (I don't do easy..)
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In reply to Post #51 Total opposite for me found the s2 and gpb1 outfish baitroom pop ups but depends on the water ya fishing
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Mitch's baits outfished S2 by a country mile for me when I swapped a few years ago; favourites being tiger toffee, west coast 30 and fat lip, simply take them everywhere, it's one more variable out of the equation imo..
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In reply to Post #49 Cheers. That's the plan mate
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In reply to Post #48 Had the 35.4lb on a single s2 and the rest over a spread of boilies, personally I find if your going to fish a pop up over a spread of boilies then unless your matching the hatch then it doesn't matter what type the spread of boilies are as your fishing an alternative hookbait anyway so use whatever boilies your confident with and fish an alternative bait over the top and see how it goes
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In reply to Post #47 Ahhh, very cool mate. well done. They were another hookbait I've been looking at.
What were you fishing them over though?
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In reply to Post #46 Defo give the s2 a go used the 13mm pink crushed cork pop ups recently on a hard lake and on my first session on them I had a 35.4lb mirror which very rarely Grace's the bank and a 33lb common, next time out I had a 31.12lb common and on my 3rd session I had the big common out at 49lb so can highly recommend
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In reply to Post #45
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In reply to Post #44 S2 work well with sticky krill bud
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In reply to Post #43 Just getting back into fishing, thinking of Stickybaits Krill and Baitroom pink Krill wafters aver it
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In reply to Post #42 No bother mate what bait you useing like
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In reply to Post #41 Sweet, thanks mate
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Was fishing over baitworks monster red but i have switched to dna baits s7 and slk had 10 carp out last wedensday useing them and jason haywards pop ups and wafters on both rods you csn fish any of specialized hookbaits over most boilies mate
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In reply to Post #37 What are you fishing them over though?
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In reply to Post #38 Or the hydra k bobbers Ryan does
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In reply to Post #35 Deep six is a cracking hook bait
As is Ultra fish by UB
if fishing over Krill ?
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Or there is marks specialized hookbait my catch rate has gone up since useing his hookbaits
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In reply to Post #35 World is your oyster 👍🏻
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In reply to Post #34 So nothing to stop me fishing Ting Tongs from UB or Baitromm Raspberry Krill over Stickiebaits Krill for instance?
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In reply to Post #33 Ub do custom rolls, I’ve been using a local roller and getting Ryan to make up a similar custom bobber. Obviously you can’t ignore the ting tongs. Fish them over anything
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I keep seeing these two names Baitroom and UB Baits, come up on the forum now. As I'm just returning to carping, I've checked both sites out and notice they only do hookbaits in tubs. Not a problem with that, but what are you guys who use them fishing over or offering as freebies? Stick or bags of particles or pellets or a different brand of boillie?
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I use Both Baitroom & UB
Its odd but on some waters I could not buy a bite on Bairoom but UB are brilliant and Vice versa on other waters
Went to france a couple of years ago and the Baitroom Signal Cray was amazing ... Only had one pot and was reusing the baits had so many fish on them ... Could not buy a bite on other baits !!
But as this thread is about Baitroom .... Yep they are not cheap but in the gran scale of things this is what the carp are interested in and the only reason youll catch is the bait
Cracking baits and Mitch is a real nice fella and well answer questions happily
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In reply to Post #29 I used these for a while and they are great baits, when I found ub and paying half the price for my wafters with better results, that was my mind made up. As said Mitchs baits are very good but ub all the way for me
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In reply to Post #29 I don't think a pot of pop ups will change anyone's life
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In reply to Post #28 Hi guys,
As an avid user of Mitchs baits i can honestly say for all the money i spend on tackle,syndicate fees,travelling etc....the odd £15 now and then on a pot of his magical little gems is the best money i ever spend as i know full well that if im on fish,my hook is razor sharp and ive settled my line correctly that its only a matter of time before that rod will rattle off at some point because once submerged the bait is working for you.
what you are getting for your dollar is a hookbait totally unlike anything you can buy off the shelf in terms of buoyancy,consistency of product shape but most of all the smell and taste is unrivalled as the minute that bait is submerged its pumping out all sorts of food signals for the carp to detect.
Most pops you buy in the shops are basically just a pop up mix with 5ml or so of flavour and a touch of sweetner and dont do a great deal for the carp to hone in on but with Mitchs baits alot of thought and years of experience has gone into his baits to produce something unique to give you a REAL edge,its the full package of taste palatants,aminos,food sugars,EOs,flavours,stimulants,triggers.
If in doubt just check each baits profile out on his website and see the lengths he goes to or drop him a line and his knowledge will blow your mind.
By the way the baits arent expensive as on the cost front it works out about 26p per bait but if you fish correctly you will probably catch on the majority of baits in the pot so 26p for a virtual guaranteed bite each time you cast out is cheap in my book or go buy some cheap dross in the nearest tackle shop and blank on most of them,most of them are designed to catch the angler.
Use Mitchs baits and you will see the difference for yourself,we are so lucky to have him helping us as these days edges are hard to come by so check him out and change your life!!
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In reply to Post #27 Mitch 13m seem slightly small for there size and more like a 12 mm NS1 for example. This is something I like.
Do the 15 come a bit smaller can anyone confirm?
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In reply to Post #25 On par with proper jobs I’d say
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In reply to Post #25 found it took an AB shot to hold down a 13mm so pretty bouyant
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How buoyant would you say they are?
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In reply to Post #23 Never used or seen them, but I’m wondering if his prices have gone up so much due to big increases in the cost of the raw ingredients. Maybe the bigger manufacturers are better placed to absorb the increases but smaller businesses need to pass more of it on.
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In reply to Post #22 I've got a fair few tubs over the years.. amazing baits! But did look in shock when I saw the prices!! Basically doubled
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In reply to Post #20 You’re right about that his prices have almost doubled in as many years 😉
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In reply to Post #20 spot on description
And as for Pineapple Pro they are great
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Hi guys,
Ive used Mitch's hookbaits extensively and i cant praise them or him enough.
They are not your usual sweets off the shelf so what you are buying into is a bespoke,perfectly made butt cracker of a hookbait.
Mitch has spent time in the Far East and utilises feeding stimulants both liquid and powdered which big money koi breeders use.
These products are not widely used as they aint cheap to incorporate into carp baits but if youre serious about having that little edge believe me they are worth every penny.
If i had to single one out i wouldnt fish without a Pineapple Pro,very reliable,very buoyant,can be fished over anything and wont let you down.😊
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Got most of the pop ups best results on the HN Yeast Deep 6 The Fizz Double Top & Butter Peach
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In reply to Post #17 That’s the problem I have. Fancy a couple of tubs but am torn between about 6!
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In reply to Post #13 Picked One ..... I picked seven !!
Hes telling you everything you need to know .... Its strawberry and lime
Its been called "Thunderberry" which kinda gives it away that its a fruit based pop up
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In reply to Post #14 "Additive/Attractor pack: NHDC, Talin, Supersweet, Fruit Flavours, Liquid Palatants, Strawberry Oil, Lime Oil, Liquid Fruit Amino Compound, Powdered Palatants, Vanillin, Organic acids, and Iso-Eugenol."
Try getting all that in a one egg pop up mix
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In reply to Post #13 Stick to buying Yellow ones, Pink ones and White ones mate
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In reply to Post #10 wtf are you on about ? Plenty of info there.
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In reply to Post #12 Well done, you picked an obvious one....
What about "A distinct and riotous blend of 3 classic attractors coupled with one of the best fruit amino liquids ever made (imho) and further enhanced with 4 separate sweeteners all integrated with high end flavouring oils. The smell and taste of these little hookbaits is quite magnificent, 24 hours amongst some of the worst silt and rotten vegetation will not taint this heavyweight of fruity mass destruction!"
So it's fruity, right....
"Additive/Attractor pack: NHDC, Talin, Supersweet, Fruit Flavours, Liquid Palatants, Strawberry Oil, Lime Oil, Liquid Fruit Amino Compound, Powdered Palatants, Vanillin, Organic acids, and Iso-Eugenol."
This tells me a bit more but still loads I can't get a feel for in terms of impact on the finished product....
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In reply to Post #10 Fat lip -Loaded with New Zealand Full Fat Green Lipped Mussel Extract
Deep Six -The "Deep Six" is the marriage of 6 addtives & attractors with the carp catching classic Squid & Octopus Koi rearer at it's core. A well matched blend of GLM, Krill Hydroslate, Shellfish Sense Appeal
Tiger Toffee & Vanilla - I think this ones pretty self explanatory
Square 1 -Our own unique mix of Cell Activator and Liquid Liver Extracts
West Coast 30 -High grade Tuna Oil, LO30 Style fish extracts and Shellfish Sense Appeal provide the primary attractors
Ive just cut and pasted a few which really is not that hard to work out what they are ... And some like Pineapple and Monster Chilli Crab if this is confusing you then I really dont know what to say
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In reply to Post #10 His squid and octopus are worth a look.
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In reply to Post #9 Just read the write ups about each bait on the website and I'm totally confused. It's impossible to tell what each bait is! There's trying to appear knowledgeable and there's totally confounding the customer!
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The best hookbaits I’ve used bar none. The red eye and the fizz have been really good for me, a mate uses tiger toffee and catches shed loads, they are expensive but it’s worth it in my opinion 👍
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Bait room stuff is very good
Brilliant communication from Mitch who is a genuinely nice fella and good angler
Ive done well on all the flavours but have been doing well on the Pineapple lately
And the great thing is when hes getting low on stock or has sold what he can handle for next day delivery he stops the website and says when it will reopen .... Bit like s drug dealer shutting off your supply so you buy more each time
Only thing I would say is delivery is not cheap so make sure your not buying just one thing
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In reply to Post #1 Depends what you want from a pop-up I’m not mad personally on perfectly round smooth pop ups. I Prefer a more rugged natural looking pop up or one with texture. Bait rooms are well made no doubting that.
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In reply to Post #1 cant recommend the Baitroom enough, the quality of the baits and the great service are IMO worth every penny.
Double Tops are year round fish catchers, along with Tiger Toffee with Krill and Berry and Fatlip being my main go to baits.
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In reply to Post #1 Decent baits but PJPU's cost much less and are every bit as good imo.
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Baitroom is very good. Tigernut toffe & vanilla is a very good one. In the short spell I had using ub I wouldn’t say there’s much in it on end product quality but definitely on communication. Baitroom are expensive tho think I got 3 pots of matt for the price of couple quid more than one pot of baitroom
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In reply to Post #1 Much better than UB, excellent quality and unlike UB the com's and service is spot on.
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In reply to Post #1 Decent baits, quite expensive. Fat lip is my choice.
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Now UB baits has gone I fancy a few more pop ups and wasters as I’m running low. Hadn’t heard of the bait room before. What are they like? So many to choose from I could end up spending a fortune. Any recommendations
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