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Try not to overthink things here. Bottom line is…. one bite, one landed. Agree bottom lip is the preferred hook hold we are all looking for but the conversion rate is what all anglers need to come good
I personally use Atomic Jel-e-wyre as a ‘boom’ section. Covers almost every situation you would need that rig in. I do have some tied with IQ2 as well, just incase I fancy a change, they are there if I need them. All rigs are tied to Korda ready made chod sections. Never had an issue
It’s a brilliant rig, One you can lay traps with bait and fish over or flick a single at a showing fish
Stick with it, it’ll come good for you 
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Ist my fav pop up rig.
Works with any lead setup i tried.
Mostly leadclip, inline and free running lead
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In reply to Post #24
One of my syndicates has a leader ban so I stopped using helis and moved to lead clips and the hinge stiff rig still worked fine. I use tungsten loaded in semi stiff for majority of my fishing as I find it covers most circumstances. I use a slightly shorter boom than you suggest, but no reason why it won't work, Per below comments just tweak to cover the lake bed you are fishing over and check the hook holds when you catch to see if they need to be shortened (or lengthened)
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I’ve started to come away from Heli setups more and more these days. Does anyone have experience with using hinges on lead clips, the norm seems to be for stiff booms on helis. But I’m looking to fish roughly 10-12inches on semi stiff tungsten loaded with a hinge (chod section). In silt and light weed I’ll be dropping lead down to 2oz or something. Any advice on if this will likely present well over most bottoms if I’m getting some sort of drop? Quite often I’ll be casting at shows or just trying to keep minimal disturbance, least casts as
Possible, so want something that’ll basically sit over most things. Im fishing this against chod rigs to see how they both perform
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In reply to Post #14
Tungskin in the 35lb will cover all bases.
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In reply to Post #21
Cheers
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In reply to Post #20
Yep , ideal in fact , it’s what I have used to good success in the past
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Over a slightly dirty bottom would esp tungsten loaded semi stiff work. The lake bed isn’t that dirty but the odd bit of chod and odd bit of weed
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In reply to Post #1
It's one of the most proven rigs so I wouldn't over think it.
My guess is that the rig was sitting strangely on the bottom as it had been played with by crays, or trapped by a bit of chod etc.
The HSR has such a strong pedigree over decades that you really don't need to overthink it
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In reply to Post #17
The fish was 15 pounds
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In reply to Post #1
Not being funny but how big was the fish that you hooked in the top lip? The only time I've ever had weird hookholds with this rig is when catching small fish on it/ when using short pop-up sections. Generally find a decent, blatant 3" stiff section with bigger fish leads to them being nailed.
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In reply to Post #15
Thanks for the quick reply
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In reply to Post #14
As a very general rule, you want stiffer for cleaner bottom and softer for dirtier bottom.
If you're fishing it on a heli you can get away with stiffer over dirt/weed if you move the top bead up.
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In reply to Post #10
Hi, can you expand on what boom section should be used on what bottom please?. I have read myself into confusion trying to make my mind up on SHR boom sections. Semi, subtle or stiff for what substrate?. Thanks.
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In reply to Post #12
As per below. Great rig. I struggled with it to start with and got encouraged to stick with it and I've done very well since, don't mean to tempt fate but never had a hook pull on the rig. My preferred boom section is a semi stiff coated braid but will tailor depending on the bottom.
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In reply to Post #11
Many thanks for all your good advice and tips 👍
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As has been said boom material/ length really is down to personal preference and perhaps the type of bottom/ substrate that you are trying to present on.
I do think that using a stiff mono/ fluro with nice, big loops either end takes some beating though.
Some good materials for this are Suffix Memory Free Snood Mono 30lb 0.55mm or Gardner Slinky 40lb 0.55mm. They come from the sea leader market but both crimp superbly when using the small 0.6mm Korda Krimps and are a nice stiffness for hinge booms.
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In reply to Post #6
The Technium is fine imo mate. The boom can be tied from anything from the softest barid to the stiffest mono. depending on your presentation requirements.
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In reply to Post #8
Neither of those mate.
Im using the Stiff hinge rig.
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In reply to Post #1
You using German rig or hair rig. ?
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In reply to Post #6
Yeah it’s fine pal. I’d personally only use it with a stiffer boom material. Give it ago with something like amnesia or Korda boom crimped. Always had good hook holds. Try and use a decent sized hook also. Similar to the Ronnie rig. Smallest id use is a size 6
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In reply to Post #5
The boom was 15lb Shimano Technium, and the 5" length seemed like it would do it's job and when tested in the margins laid nice and flat.
However it is the first time I've tied and used this rig so any suggestions to improve on it would be appreciated.
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In reply to Post #1
Is 15lb Mono Stiff enough for the boom section ?
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As Yonny has said above you can't judge a rig on one fish.
The hinged stiff link when tied properly using good components and a sharp hook is probably the best rig out there in terms of rig mechanics, by which I mean hooking them from whatever direction they approach the bait and them staying on until they're in the net.
In my experience the dodgier hookholds with this rig can often be down to using an inferior pop up that is not buoyant enough to hold the hook section up straight. When the hook is sat leaning over is when you can start getting them in the scissors etc.
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks for your reply Yonny.
Yes it is early days for me with the rig and I will persevere with it.
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In reply to Post #1
I don't think you can judge a rig on one hook hold mate. Not all hook holds can be perfect 2" back in the bottom lip. Give it time. It's an awesome rig.
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So I tried the Stiff Hinged Rig on my latest session for the first time.
The boom section was 5" long and made of 15lb mono.
The hook length section was around 2.5" and curved and made out of 20lb Mouthtrap.
It all looked good to me.
I did catch on it.
However the fish was hooked about 1/2" inside the top lip which I thought was odd as I was expecting to get a decent hook hold 1-2" in the bottom lip.
Any ideas on why the hook hold was where it was?
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