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In reply to Post #21 I’m at completely the other end of this not just in fishing but in life.
I like to understand the rules, hey are they put in place and what are the reasons, nuts is a fairly easy one - it’s due to overuse and bad preparation- so many many fisheries introduced a ban - fair enough if it stops a few idiots tipping loads of unprepared nuts in our waters. Grinding up nuts, instantly negates the reason for the rule, so absolutely I’d do it.
20 mph speed limits outside schools, I understand the rule, but at 2am will do 30 (as long as no cameras). We now live in a nanny state, where there is rules and guidance for everything- most of my job is understanding why these things are put in place, and negotiating around the concerns. For me is definitely not cheating it’s about staying within the rules for the purpose they were made. I also fish a club water that insists on barbed hooks, I don’t want to start on that debate but I use barbless for 90% of my weed free fishing and on these particular lakes there are savage muscle covered bars and a high percentage of lost fish - in the rules any size 10s or under must be barbless - so I use size 10s.
The more you ask for clarification the more rules we get that are based on legacy thinking and me too. I fish a lake that has pages of rules, no floaters, no zigs - but in 9 foot is a 10” pop up off the lead a pop up or zig, is any pop up a floater? The rule was put in place for the wild fowl, I get it, and fish to the spirit of the rule not the detail. We had the same thing with livebaiting where it is banned and years ago someone said ‘what about maggots’
Long rant but the worlds gone mad.
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In reply to Post #21 Quote.... I read your post as tiger nuts banned , to me that includes all forms, not just whole tigers. Are you now saying other forms can be used ? If tiger nuts are banned in all forms, flour inc, using it is cheating. If you can live with that and look at your captures in the same way, all power to you, each to their own 👍 I must admit, when someone says things are banned my 1st thought isn't how can I get away with using it, just not me.
Cheating? Live with that and look at your captures the same? Just not for you?
Some very over the top virtue signalling there again Vossy. You trying to "ruffle feathers" again, with so little knowledge of what you are actually chatting about?
Nuts are banned at literally 100's of lakes all across the UK. And as far as I know, not one single one of those same lakes bans nut boiled baits which are full up with nut flour. Not one as far as I know.
So how is anyone cheating? Come on fella, you are a moderator now, so all those 'holier than thou statements' are not really called for, are they? Especially when you are wrong.
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In reply to Post #22 That's true but worth checking jic. I've used nut groundnut where nuts were banned, though naturally I checked with the owner 1st 👍
And if only whole nuts are banned you could use kibble as a hook bait, pushing it right to the limit of what's allowed.
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In reply to Post #21 Many places ban tigers, but don't specify nut boilies are banned. I think you're reading way too deeply in to the question Tbh
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In reply to Post #20 No one would know, that's not the point.
If tiger nuts are banned in all forms, flour inc, using it is cheating. If you can live with that and look at your captures in the same way, all power to you, each to their own 👍
I must admit, when someone says things are banned my 1st thought isn't how can I get away with using it, just not me.
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In reply to Post #19 If just using the slime and some flour, how would anyone know either way?
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In reply to Post #1 I read your post as tiger nuts banned , to me that includes all forms, not just whole tigers.
Are you now saying other forms can be used ? If you're not sure you might want to check.
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I've read on here about leaving tigers to ferment for 3 days in a bucket but can they be left for longer? (A few weeks?)
Or would doing this for longer would ruin them?
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In reply to Post #16 Thanks Mark, now to find somewhere that would have the best/freshest tiger nuts
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In reply to Post #15 Yes mate. Prepare as normal. It really is very simple. If it does not work, it's down to substandard/old tigers. I've had it a few times, normally with tigers completely pitted with weevil holes.
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In reply to Post #14 Soak the tigers for 24? Hours first and boil them in that water?
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In reply to Post #10 Tigers in to cook, cover them by a couple of inches with water. Boil them hard with the lid on the pan to avoid evaporation. Once cooked, put them & the boiling water straight into a clean bucket. Add a load of brown sugar, put the lid on tight and leave for a couple of days.
Old or weevil infested tigers sometimes will not gloop up mate.
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In reply to Post #11 Quote... "Whilst that is preparing, you need to grind up a shed load of dry tigers to a fine flour. Don't buy tiger flour, grind them yourself."
Mark is correct. As I posted, dry uncooked tigers yes. You need to cook all whole particles throughly. Not when you grind them down to a flour though (apart from peanuts & other nuts, buy roasted ones). Maize in it's full form for example, needs to be cooked. Same as tigers, have to be cooked. Maize meal or tiger nut meal/flour in a boiled bait does not get cooked. The eggs get cooked, yes, but not the base mix ingredients. Tigers are not nuts, they are tubers. These are fine to use as a flour.
Any paste or stick mix, bag mix will contain tiger flour, or maize flour or similar. None of it is cooked. It comes from dry particles ground down into a fine flour. Apart from real nuts, this is absolutely fine & no problems for the fish whatsoever.
You would never be able to make a flour out of boiled particles. It would be impossible.
It's not being dim. If you don't know (which many don't) it's always best to ask.
Follow what I said in my first post to the letter. You will do well
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In reply to Post #11 Not cooked, straight from the bag as I read it.
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In reply to Post #7 Excuse me for being dim but do you mean making flour from tigers that have not been cooked (straight from the bag) or cooked tigers that have been cooked and then dried ?
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